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	Create New Topic   My Posts   My forum buddies   Invite friends   Private messages Russian brides > Main Forum > "Best Travel Store" Author Post Rag'n'Bull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/2/2009 2:08:03 PM   / 02AUG09 / 1900 UTC National U.S.A. (US) Transit Russian Federation (RU)/Destination Ukraine (UA) ALSO CHECK DESTINATION INFORMATION BELOW Russian Federation (RU) TWOV (Transit Without Visa): Visa required, except for Those continuing their journey within 24 hours without leaving the airside (international) transit area: - if continuing by a domestic flight (also including Belarus) or if the airport of arrival is different from the airport of departure within the same Russian city (e.g. arriving at Sheremetyevo-2 and departing from Sheremetyevo-1 airport in Moscow) then a transit visa is required, as one is entering territory of the Russian Federation. Additional Information: - Passengers are required to hold return/onward tickets and documents required for the next destination. - Valid visas in expired passports or other expired travel documents are not accepted. Warning: - Non-compliance with entry or transit regulations may result in fines for carrier For details, click here Ukraine (UA) Passport required. - Passport and/or passport replacing documents must be valid on the day of arrival. Visa required, except for A max. stay of 90 days: - for nationals of U.S.A.; Additional Information: - A max. stay of 90 days is granted within a 180 days period for nationals of U.S.A.. - All passengers entering Ukraine must, on arrival, fill out the immigration card. Card must be presented together with a passport when entering and leaving the country. - Visitors of any nationality are strongly recommended to hold return tickets upon arrival in Ukraine. Warning: - Non-compliance with entry or transit regulations will result in fines of between USD 700-. and USD 800.- for the carrier and deportation of passenger by same carrier on first available flight. beemer18 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/2/2009 2:12:05 PM   Tsunami...yes there is airfare from SD-Moscow for under $700 but to see 3-4 cities in ukraine for under $400 is tight unless you mean Kiev and 1 other city. "Regardless flying direct to Simferopol is about 3000 dollars round trip and 1000 dollars through Moscow"( I saw one at $930) Best to check out multiple sites...you can get to Simferopol from SD for $1022(Sidestep) and for a couple hundred dollars more connection times are much better, all through Kiev......without having to deal with a russian visa( you just never know, I did go through side door on a connecting flight but would you chance it?). Check out bookingbuddy.com and their multiple site diectory. Rag'n'Bull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/2/2009 2:23:00 PM   And Rodan, I just had a quick play on www.flights.com and, round trips, San Diego to Kiev is circa $1100 inc. taxes and from LAX to Kiev (avoiding Aeroflot/Russia) is circa $1000. So how you figure it costs $3000 round trip to Simferopol is beyond me! beemer18 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/2/2009 3:03:44 PM   "So how you figure it costs $3000 round trip to Simferopol is beyond me!" Martin..it is called checking on one site...expedia which has trip at ~$3400 I did find a separate booking SD-Moscow and Moscow-SIP at $$920 rt, but no other cities in ukraine Rag'n'Bull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/2/2009 3:21:12 PM   As a regular searcher of flights, often to obscure places, it's always going to be less than easy to find a best deal to somewhere like SIP (Simferopol) because the search engines aren't that clever and very few international operators operate into SIP. Often I will go to the particular (obscure) airport website, if it has one, to check which airlines are represented at that airport and then go to those airline websites. Other than that, fares are always competitive to Kiev because it is served by so many airlines and those of us that have been regulars in Ukraine know the, well I think there's 4, sites for checking and buying internal flight tickets. Rag'n'Bull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/2/2009 6:36:44 PM   Who can figure out the cheapest route of travelling from Mulhouse (MLH), France to Basel (BSL), Switzerland? beemer18 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/2/2009 9:04:00 PM   'Who can figure out the cheapest route of travelling from Mulhouse (MLH), France to Basel (BSL), Switzerland?' Walking.......of course!!!!! Rag'n'Bull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/3/2009 4:03:39 AM   beemer, Nope, just stand still because if one is in MLH airport then one is already in BSL airport, they are the same airport, the same terminal etc! RodanTsunami Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/4/2009 12:23:51 AM   My method of traveling to several cities is by means of " Multiple Destinations". Like was mentioned ,the search engines do not operate well through eastern Europe.My first ticket was to Moscow and then a separate ticket with "Multiple Destinations" from Moscow to various cities in the Ukraine. I was planning a trip to Simferopol and to visit Sumy. I like Kharhov and it is closer to Sumy than Kiev, so that would be the next leg of the trip and then fly back to Moscow from Kiev because it would connect there from Kharkov anyway. The multi destination trip was 390 dollars. Just flying to one city can be much more expensive within Ukraine. It is complex but earlier in the year I was going to travel to Odessa and the same thing flying direct to Odessa was quite expensive and traveling through Kiev saved considerably. The round trip from Kiev to Odessa was about 400 dollars except for one day every 2 weeks it was 27 dollars round trip. It was apparent the plane was wanted in Kiev on Monday morning and the flight for 27 dollars left Odessa at 10:30P.M on Sunday night. Still if I need to have a visa for travel through Moscow then I just added a few days to the trip and a longer layover and a few days in Moscow. Thanks for the added information, the embassy did not have every nuance of travel requirements and airport opertations. As I steted in every country and government the person you are speaking with is an expert in policy until you get to the next window. Many years ago I received 4 months of Social Security payments for going to school when my father retired. That 500 dollars went back and forth from me to the government at least 5 times over the next 9 years. Several people are now receiving a pension for the trouble that 500 dollars caused me. Can't wait to see what the "Obama-ites" cost me in the future. RodanTsunami Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/8/2009 10:05:51 PM   So I have more checking and a multiple entry visa is $240. SO if you read this Martin let me know what you about it. If I fly American Airlines into DME. I then fly with a ticket for "Multiple Destinations" direct to SIP. After my stay I fly to HRK and then to Sumy by car. After my stay in Sumy by car to KBP and back to DME. The only connecting flight will be through Kiev on my way to Kharkov, but I have to see it again. Even the layovers in DME are short. It's $805 from San Diego to DME andthe Multiple destination ticket is $460. The big question is are there problems with T-W-O Visa in DME. The Russian Embassy has given me apparent conflicting information and I called a Visa Agency and they did not know for sure about the specifics in DME or SVO. SVO has terminals listed as 1, 2 and "C" I appeciate the information. I am going to check the other sites. I site I planned the above itinerary was through Expedia. durak Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/9/2009 1:14:33 AM   Rodan, I'm not quite clear what you are asking about... If your flights are at different terminals of SVO (Sheremet'evo), then a visa is definitely required. But I would expect that because both of your flights are international (foreign), they would both be at Terminal 2, in which case TWOV should work for you. RodanTsunami Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/9/2009 2:45:24 PM   I am not familiar with the airports at either SVO or DME and even the travel agent/visa agent or the embassy do not have the specifics. Apparently if I must leave a controlled section of the airport or even different terminals I will need a visa. If anyone knows the specifics I will happy to receive the advise. For instance I remember traveling through Paris and needing to clear customs to change terminals and I never left the airport. I am told that I cannot get a visa at the airport in Moscow and time is short for my planned trip. The Embassy requires an authorized agent or in person issuance of the visa. I don't want to send my passport through the mail or make the trip to San Francisco to attain a visa if it is not necessary. But I am assured that if I need a visa and do not have one I will be deported from Moscow on the next available flight. The ticket from USA to SVO are to Terminal 2 and the ticket to Ukraine is listed as Terminal C, a new terminal. The other option a flight to DME and on to Ukraine gives no reference as to terminals. I am asking for advice from experience in these issues. Maybe a reference to an official site so I could have official confirmation. I am going to call the airline and see if they can be of assistance. beemer18 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/9/2009 4:09:54 PM   Rodan...why are you intent on going through Moscow? To save a little bit of money and to hassle figuring out if you need a visa or not? Just find a flight going from San-Kiev for $935-$1035 and fly aerosvit to SIP and HRK on separate bookings and you will be close to your $1265 total. Don't make an ant hill into a mountain!! I gave you a site before....... Durak, I have seen foreign flights go out of domestic terminal before. Why tempt fate? I once asked several travel agencies about whether needing transit visa or not and NO ONE could give me a clear answer. beemer18 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/9/2009 4:14:47 PM   "For instance I remember traveling through Paris and needing to clear customs to change terminals and I never left the airport." This is not true Rodan, you must have mistakenly made wrong turn somewhere. Entire airport is a restricted zone where anyone can pass through all terminals to catch any connecting flights. It is this reason girls from FSU can use this airport to transit to another country without visa. ie: dominican republic Rag'n'Bull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/9/2009 4:21:23 PM   Rodan, FSU flights generally depart from the other SVO terminal to international flights, whilst Russia to Ukraine is international, for the situation of SVO terminals, consider it be non international, it is an internal FSU flight. DME is all in one terminal so no need to enter Russian territory unless there for a lengthy period. I've never heard of one of these multiple destination tickets so have no idea. As per beemer, I really can't understand why you're farting around travelling via Russia for the sake of $100 or so! But if you are changing terminals at SVO you definately need visa(s). Rag'n'Bull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/9/2009 4:28:53 PM   P.S. Rodan, You never know, when in Crimea you might learn of a non scheduled charter flight direct to Kharkov, not the sort of thing you could learn about from home, if not from Simferopol then perhaps even from one of the other Crimean airports such as Kerch or Sevastopol. RodanTsunami Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/9/2009 5:27:03 PM   Well if indeed there is no need for a visa in DME as I had asked. It is a very good deal for me.Not only the multiple destinations, but there are short layovers and the long legs of my trip will only be @20 hours to Simferopol as opposed to well over 30 hours and arriving in Simferopol at 10:30 P.M. It is more than the money,,, convenience and duration, with no sitting in the airport overnight or all day. Then there is the added benefit of being related to an airline employee with the possibility to upgrade to first class. I could try standby tickets as family , but that can become a nightmare on international flights. "Multiple destinations" is another word for having extended layovers or giving the possibility to travel by land or sea and still have the ticket as though it was a round trip fare by resuming air travel from a different airport. It is perfect if you wanted to take a cruise on the River. RodanTsunami Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/9/2009 5:27:57 PM   Well if indeed there is no need for a visa in DME as I had asked. It is a very good deal for me.Not only the multiple destinations, but there are short layovers and the long legs of my trip will only be @20 hours to Simferopol as opposed to well over 30 hours and arriving in Simferopol at 10:30 P.M. It is more than the money,,, convenience and duration, with no sitting in the airport overnight or all day. Then there is the added benefit of being related to an airline employee with the possibility to upgrade to first class. I could try standby tickets as family , but that can become a nightmare on international flights. "Multiple destinations" is another word for having extended layovers or giving the possibility to travel by land or sea and still have the ticket as though it was a round trip fare by resuming air travel from a different airport. It is perfect if you wanted to take a cruise on the River. Rag'n'Bull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/9/2009 5:32:34 PM   Rodan, Ah, your multiple destination is what, in Europe, is often referred to as an 'open jaw return', i.e. on the outward you fly to SIP and on the return you fly from HRK or wherever and is often obtainable at the lowest of the low ticket price. Rag'n'Bull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/9/2009 5:59:25 PM   And Rodan, I wouldn't recommend staff subload tickets, not if you've got all plans the other end in place, particularly with the modern day restrictions of travelling in the flight decks etc. I travelled subload a few times last year, on business, expecting to do it again in a month or so from now, flights full but I was allowed on the flight decks as, on the paperwork, the airline had manifested me as 'crew' but many years ago, in the days when I was young, travelling Tampa-Bangor-London even the flight deck was full and, totally illegally, my seat was one of the toilets at the rear of the aircraft which, somewhat conveniently, my girlfriend F/A had used to store supplies of gin & tonic in :) Your Reply: Your name:   New Registration Password:   Forgot password?   refresh Code:   Russian brides > Main Forum > "Best Travel Store"
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