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	Create New Topic   My Posts   My forum buddies   Invite friends   Private messages Russian brides > Main Forum > Stereotypes and... Author Post GLTALLTOAD Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 9/8/2004 12:41:07 PM   Scott, Depending on anyone's level of cynicism, it could easily be said that Nadya's "what's wrong with american men" balances the reality of "what's wrong with american women"...:) But when you mix them up you get one hell of a mess, lol... At least, I know for certain most US men do not have the false sense of entitlement most western women suffer from so radically. Western men do accept the challenge of seeking what they want and believe in elsewhere...FSU in this case. toad gladiatorUK Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 9/8/2004 3:45:08 PM   here here toad.......and that description carries as much truth across this side of the Atlantic too,hence my Ukranian wife!!! tradman Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 9/8/2004 4:24:04 PM   I agree, hence my soon to be Moldovan wife wessman Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 9/8/2004 4:35:33 PM   I know somre very nice American women that are sweet, sensitive, caring, giving, and loving, unfortunately the competition for the nice girls is extremely tough and most of these hard to find women are already dating other women. GLTALLTOAD Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 9/8/2004 8:14:32 PM   HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.... wessman Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 9/8/2004 9:17:05 PM   Toad is it me or has there been a flood of highly hostile and angry participants invading the forum here? Dale E Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 9/8/2004 10:38:28 PM   Yeah really, Who peed in her fish pie? Whatever happened to "and they lived happily ever after"? 90% of the womens' profiles state they want to love and be loved. Samething I'm looking for. wessman Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 9/8/2004 11:31:03 PM   Nadya you dug a thread our of the aechives that is over a year old and the people that wrote that are not corresponding on the forum now!! wessman Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 9/8/2004 11:38:54 PM   archives, (old threards) wessman Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 9/8/2004 11:39:49 PM   Tradman sorry for ignoring you, so what is new with the fiance and the bundle? BrianM Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 9/9/2004 12:30:18 AM   Yeah, this is an old thread. But Nadya does ask some valid points. So let me give you two examples. My two older sisters. One is 44 years old. The other is 41 years old. Let me give you some background on them. My oldest sister is a die hard, through and through, professional business woman. She graduated top of her class from Harvard with her MBA and went to immediately work in the corporate environment. She does extremely well for herself, is pretty attractive and very intelligent. She has managed business projects in the 10 figure range if that gives you any idea of her business knowledge and capacity. She never married and her career was her only life. Only about 5 years ago did the thought of marriage even enter her mind and she thought about having kids. Then she began a frantic search trying to find a man. The man she wanted was someone like Pierce Brosnan. She went to every dating site she could possibly find and dated about 3 guys a week. In every one she found some major fault. They were too immature. They didn't make enough money. They weren't educated enough and just not up to her "ideal" standard. Too many times I heard her say "I am so much better than this man, its depressing." So now she is 44 years old, single, lives alone and has zero prospects for marriage. Now I want to say that she is a rare case, but she isn't. She has several female friends of hers in the same situation. In fact, at a recent Harvard reunion not one single girl from her graduating class was still married and many still had not married. A few years ago she began seriously considering going to a sperm bank to buy the sperm so that she could have a baby. I asked her "why!?!" and she said marriage and a husband was too much of a hastle. She told me point blank that she could get what she needed from a sperm bank and then she wouldn't have to deal with the "strings". Her thinking is not isolated to just her mind here in the USA. Many women think similar thoughts. Men are not really needed. Her thoughts have changed some now though and she told me just two days ago that she hopes that my marriage to my fiancee from the Ukraine goes well because she desperately wants to see children (since she is now too old to safely have her own) in her immediate family sometime. When I hear things like this I really wonder what her priorities are. It is really sad considering she most likely could have been married to any guy she wanted - she just judged them all unworthy of marriage. (continued) BrianM Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 9/9/2004 12:30:54 AM   My second sister is slightly different. She was engaged once but her fiancee was killed in a terrible accident. Only about 4 years ago did she start dating again after nearly 6 years of grief over her loss. So three years ago she met a man that truly loved her. They got engaged and were married. During that whole time of her grieving she refused to date anyone - for a period of nearly 10 years. She occassionally worked as a professional photo and commercial model. So she wasn't single because of lack of guys or looks. She just chose different priorities. And those she decided on were to bury herself in a career of her own without a family. When she did get married she suffered almost 14 miss carriages before she finally had her little daughter. She was almost too old to have children, you see... These are the two women I know in the USA more than any others. I wish that I could say that they are not typical. But their attitudes are. Men and marriage are a second thought to them and only toward the very end of any possibility for children have they truly considered marriage. Well, I AM a man and I don't want to suffer like they did. I have chosen to find a girl who is committed to having a family and wants to be married. Not 15 years from now but within the next year. My life, my marriage and my future children will not take a second priority in anyone's life. So those simple values are what I want most. Sadly I have to say from my dating here in the USA those cannot be found in the women I have dated. This priority of wanting to have and raise a family is what I want most. Yes, there are many beautiful women from all over the world. Yes, I could go and search for women in any country I choose. So why choose the FSU and their women? From what I have experienced they have a sense of character and strength that I find appealing. I do not want a pet. I want a woman who is very independent and can stand up for herself and by most of all - my EQUAL and just an equal. But I also want her to let me know that she is still a woman. She needs to let me know that she still thinks I am her man. Together we will create OUR family together where both of us will give all of our love to each other in creating a marriage. Most importantly and I think almost any man from these forums would agree, I WANT to be treated as an equal and not a thing that can be thrown away and not needed. Not just an excuse for something that can be bought in a sperm bank. Is that so much to ask? Apparently it is for many woman I have met here in the USA. So that is why I look elsewhere. - Brian TimH Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 9/9/2004 2:47:31 PM   "Sadly I have to say from my dating here in the USA those cannot be found in the women I have dated." I have the same problem in the UK mate :o// Sucks doesnt it ? Ptichka Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 9/9/2004 3:21:36 PM   Stereotypes are good for only one thing...for breaking them:) wessman Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 9/9/2004 4:15:58 PM   Where did you find that pearl, Ptichka? Ptichka Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 9/9/2004 4:18:01 PM   In my own head:) And what? OK just kidding, it was my teacher of foreign literature who taught us to break stereotypes:) idiotdetector Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 9/9/2004 4:20:33 PM   Hello ptichka, how are you? Ptichka Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 9/9/2004 4:22:38 PM   Hi ID:) Nice:) Thinking about stereotypes and how they can make our life harder if to follow all of them:) tradman Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 9/9/2004 4:23:28 PM   Yes hello Ptichka, where have you been?:-))) idiotdetector Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 9/9/2004 4:24:07 PM   Alot of people here have experiences with A couple of FSU women and brand then all the same, it sad realy Your Reply: Your name:   New Registration Password:   Forgot password?   refresh Code:   Russian brides > Main Forum > Stereotypes and...
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