heaven forbid that should avoid answering something Martin.......my point was that the forum is all too often filled with sh*te.And if the moderators did their job then we wouldn't be having this discussion.
I couldn't agree with you more gladiator and I have often told Oleg exactly the same myself only to receive the standard reply 'we will moderate the forum'.
BULLSHIT ..... isn't it nice to agree upon something gladiator> :)
thanks for the info on acquiring a K1, I did not know this procedure and I hope one day to be able to use
this infomation for myself. What was the total cost for everything, if you don't mind.
Martin - I have never heard of a more obsessive person than you are. Stalking me for hour after hour (and even LABELING your posts) and then pouncing on my first letter back to you within eight nimutes. You DID do exactly the same thing to Toad. He told you tol stop writing to him and you couldn't get it through your belly that he had insulted you. So you kept harrassing and harrassing him and ALL of us on this forum.
Please read carefully Martin. This is my answer to you and (hint) it is the SAME ANSWER I have given you before. When you obsess in the future please look back at this post for your answer rather than poluting the forum with the same question over and over.
Are you ready Martin? Here is your answer in all caps, so that you can.
I DO NOT HAVE THE LINKS TO OFFER YOU AS i DO NOT CATALOG SUCH THINGS. YOU HAVE NO DOUBT CHANGED YOUR ENTRIES ANYWAY. BUT I AM AWARE THAT YOU HAD CONFLICTING INFORMATION UP PREVIOUSLY REGARDING YOUR MARITAL STATUS AND YOUR AGE. YOU ARE NOT IMPORTANT ENOUGH TO ME TO RECALL ANY MORE DETAILED SPECIFICS.
Ask the same questions a thousand times as your obsessive little mind requires and I will refer you back to "the post" (That's what I will refer to it as.) "The post" is what is written above.
So Martin the answer to you question? Is THE POST. Got it? Good.
Trav: Why do you flood us with bull?
"web site that is intended for the exact purpose of helping men meet women through letter writing?? "
Who says that this web site is intended exclusively for those who write. Did you miss (or forget) the part about fiance.com selling Anastasia Roamce Tours? If this webs site isn't intended to dicsuss that subject - show me where that is written?
OK jetmba,
I understand that you are withdrawing these previous posts and any suggestions made in it, and indeed you are admitting that you were mistaken, at best, or a liar, thank you for clarifying the situation:
jetmba
Send: 01.12.2006 10:27:08
And Martin - you seem to be different things to different groups on different websites - while retaining enough similarity to make it clear that it is you.
On this website you are indeed married. But on others you purport to be something else. And on at least one other you are an entirely different age.
Is it hard to keep track?
jetmba
Send: 01.12.2006 10:55:11
Don't have the information readily available to me right now. But I think nasfan does.
beemer18, it's been a long time since I did the K1, so the cost that I will tell you is a rough approximation. The total fees for the immigration should be somewhere between 500-700 dollars. The attorney's fee was $1,500 (this does not include USCIS fees). You can email an attorney (such as the one at the web site that I mentioned) and they can tell you all about the costs in detail, they want business, so they'll give you free information on the phone. A paralegal or the attorney himself may spend 30min-1 hour with you on the phone. You only pay if you decide you want them to work on your specific case. So, it's not a bad idea to listen. Also, order the free kit, it will give you good information and it's also free. Good luck!
jetmba, I read Gladiator's and Martin's posts on another thread and I think they're both right. This is getting often out of hand and none can claim that never had part in the junk and childish attacks and comebacks that have been posted on this board le alone the vendetas and counterattacks.
I am making a sincere opening to you. I declare that I have no animocity towards you or others for that matter. I differ from you in many things, but I respect your views. You have contributed your experiences and have shared your knowledge in the past. If the romance social approach has worked for you or you know something that you can share for the benefit of other members, then you should do so. Different points of view should be heard and tolerated. Keeping an open mind is important, some things work for some people don't work well for others. I wish you the very best of luck whether you decide to travel on a tour, go it by yourself or with a fellow mate.
Also, I am sending a message to the other members who have contributed to this board in the past, but are not here anymore. Let us leave behind the differences and tolerate each other. It's not difficult. Nasfan and I differ on many things, but were able to converse in a civil manner, and tolerate and respect where each is coming from. There is no point investigating the nuances of who said what when two or three years ago and rehassing the exact same accusations and insults. The fact of the matter is that all and I mean all of us have contributed to this forum in the past, so we all deserve the respect of one another. Whether still on the journey or having reached destination, we are all a special breed of men who took chances and traveled in a search of a dream in which we believed. This is a very strong common link in my mind that should enable us to overcome any childish difference sthat have arisen over the last years.
The same peace offering goes from me to the older members who may read this board from time to time including Thunderdome, Izifaddag, and Tall Toad.
I agree with the majority of what you say wtrav02 but, first, we need to overcome the 'banging of heads' and 'brick wall' syndrome and that is something that appears to be out of my, indeed your, control.
Trav:
I can agree with what you wrote. We should return to the fundamental reason for this forum and respect one another. It would be great if the writers from the past, or indeed new writer, were to share their experiences, good and bad, for the benefit of others.
Martin: I disagree with what you wrote above but refuse to entertain or comment on it any further.
Now lets get back to the subject of Russian Women - using whatever venues one finds.
Wtrav:
well spoken,and well written,quite often it only takes a bit of common sense to put the name calling aside.You make many good points in your post not least of which involve many members past and present contributing useful advice and information to this forum.
After all this is reason for it's existence,to help those still searching.I agree wholeheartedly that we all share a very strong common link,and if we all can focus that in helping others then in my opinion thats a job well done.
Of course the occasional "barb" may show it's head but hopefully maturity will prevail and all will take it as good humour.
It takes a bold man to offer the hand of peace......and I for one accept as I hope will many others.
I think what Wtrav was correct, though I would defer from hiring a high priced lawyer.Maybe a couple of years ago it was worth it, now there is too much information available. With the price tag that Trav has quoted I have a good idea who he used. There is a former member that would disagree with using him, it created utter chaos, though finally he did get his fiancee. here, I don't know WMferg still reads here, but he had a hell of a time.
There are many attorneys, who priced much less one in Maryland that does the fiancee visa for around $365 dollars and will represent you for that fee if you need an appeal if the visa is declined.
www.visajourney.com will help you totally through the immigration process along with the change of status.They have a great forum with excellent information there. None of the above is particularly difficult. We are waiting for her green card now. Different service centers operate differently.
Trav is pretty close on the prices to the adjustment of status. It's
$395 for the adjustment, then you have costs for advance parole and for her work permit. After all was said and I've got $655 in the adjustment of status. On that note you can as soon as your fiancee hits the ground in the states get her a temporary social security number, which will become her permanent number when the change is approved. There are plenty of us here in the states that can help you with your fiancee visa without the use of an attorney.
As for the brickwall and head banging, practice what you preach.
jetmba, sounds great, looking forward to healthy and friendly conversations as in the old times:)
Glad, I appreciate your good words, how's your child growing up?
nasfan, I'm surprised to hear wmferg had problems with J. Roth. The only complaint I can report from my end is the difficulty to get hold of Roth himself. It was frustrating at times getting hold of his assistant attorney as well. However, the paralegals would always pick up the phone and were pretty effective answering questions. Saying all this, I should add that my case was very easy (Ukr lady, no kids, no problematic background). If I recall correctly, wmferg's lady has a child, which might have complicated things. Still though Roth claims he can crack any case wide open like a walnut:)
I agree with you, attorney is not necessary and if I had this knowledge, I'd probably save the bucks for a good vacation instead. I believe jetmba managed the whole process by himself and his lady was from Moldova, which was more of unchartered territoty than Ukr and Rus.
Though are you certain the much lower priced guys are real attornies? if not, you can be as well filling out the forms by yourself.
We had the conditions on my wife's permanent residency withdrawn last srping. Had we stayed the whole time since our marriage in the states, she'd be able to apply for U.S. citizenship, but instead she'll have to wait for two more years. Oh well, not a big deal, no difference really other than being able to vote. She received a full college scholarship a few days ago that covers this academic year and the next just as a U.S. citizen with the right qualifications would be able to get it.
I did, indeed do the entire Fiance visa process myself and it was not much trouble at all. My lady was not very crazy about the prospect of going to Bucharest Romania as is required for a Moldovan to get a fiance visa for the US but she did it.
To anybody interested Visajourney.com is the place to go for very useful free help.
Thanks nasfan6, wtrav02 and jetmba for your info regarding fiance visas. it may be a while before I would
use it but I like to know way ahead of time any direction I may go. At least I learned much about the process.
Difficult to get a Ukrainian to the US, even for just a visit.
Trav:
"Little Glad" is now just over one year old and already on the route to being bi-lingual!Really can't wait for him to start nursery school and see the look on his teacher's face when he speaks russian!!...:))
Martin you lose, on this last post alone. Which is antagonising. Two the truth will always be controversial to you. Which reminds me of a couple of things. When Thunder supposedly got booted out of here for his criminal offense. Who took it upon themselves to enter an antagonizing post in another forum to instigate trouble? Same as the farewell letter you wrote to Nor, which I have in my possesion. That's the practice what you preach part. Since you referred to my wife as a dyke, I have no reason to make amends with you.Period end of story. It wasn't the first time you insulted her. As you made in a past post, bullying is never accepted, well Martin insulting a mans wife in my neighborhood would provide you a trip to the dentist. I don't make insults towards another mans wife, girfriend fiance etc.
That being said your last post is a bit arrogant. As you should be let off the hook for insulting anyone. Just remember this my little Martin, the computer isn't the only thing that has made this world smaller.
My dear little nasfan6,
You lost as you always do and always will, 10 hours and 4 minutes and you just couldn't resist.
Whatever I may write you already read into the negative and if you can't find any negative then you invent it.
That letter to Norway was titled 'to clear the air' and that is exactly how it was intended, again you are reading the negative into anything.
And, I have never referred to your wife as a dyke. Those words would have fitted perfectly into the referred to poem had I intended them and chosen to use them, again you are inventing something that wasn't said.
But what really intrigues me, it really does, is your previous claim whereas I asked for, or the information provided to me, information regarding agencies in Zaporozhye. Obviously one cannot recall everything over the years but I've never used, nor do I believe I have asked for imformation pertinent to, agency(s) in Zaporozhye. Is this something else you've made up my little nasfan6?
Seems like things got off the beaten track. Fabio, did anyone ever fully answer your original question?
I don't know where you reside but check with the local Embassy or check their website. I found all the info I needed at http://www.russianembassy.org/. You will most likely need the famous "letter" from the hotel where you will be staying or a business if it is a business trip. I believe there are other exceptions or methods but the Embassy should be able to answer any questions you may have.
To everyone who has contributed to this thread after the original question of
*****
(Help with a Visa)
"I am going to meet a girl in Russia. I am not going on a tour and waste a bunch of money. I think I found a good one but we will see. What are the steps I need to take?"
*****
I have used this forum to get a little info about different aspects of meeting and conversing and eventually marrying an FSU woman. This includes transfers of funds, travel and visa's. For the most part ya'll have been very helpful and have provided significant input and advise for my endeavors. For this I thank you.
However, most of the time you tend to get very personal about things and for what? Because one of you had a different experience with an agency or something? The fact that so many of your seem to live on this forum I find a little troubling. Go out, meet some people, get some real human interaction from time to time. It is time to put down the crack pipe and get a real life.
There are those of us who come here to ask your help because for some unknown reason we feel that we may receive an intelligent answer. I know there are those of you who have more experience with this FSU dating thing and that is why I came to you looking for advice. Stop playing King of the Forum and try and help those who need advice and guidance before they are stripped of their dignity and money.
Now I'll step down off of my soapbox and let you guys shred me to pieces but I felt it needed to be said. Fabio (you guys remember Fabio don't you?) I hope you find the answer you are looking for and that your trip is successful.
Sincerely
Bill (Hey, how about that, I even used my real name!)