I had a long correspondance with a girl from Lugansk and yes she had me on interpreter, gifts and the apartment scam and asking for money but the apartment and money scam came after i booked into my hotel, thing is i did not see this coming she did not seem to be like this until i turned up to meet her in Lugansk, there was not much i could do about it other than sit there open mouthed and think i can not believe that this girl is such a blatant scam and not actualy care about it. As for Lugansk yes it is true parts of the city are very run down and areas of the city where apartment blocks are look like they have been hit by a B52. As for this guys girl asking for money for her travel expenses that would set alarm bells ringing for me based on my previous experience. Best suggestion is offer to book the tickets, flights from Lugansk should be at least 150 pounds return if booked online maybe less and see what she says.
request to meet in kiev firsat time is perfectly normal to protect herself from sex tourists hahhaha
say for instance you meet in in her home town and you and her hand in hand going out etc... and people who knows her saw her with you then you fly back home and things didn't work out so she had to try another man right, again in her home town walking hand in hand etc.. and being seen again by people who knows her. again after the date this didnt work out and so she had to try another man again...this could go on in cycle for ages...
now what would people who know her seing her with hand in hand with different men over the months think of her? think about this
that it why it's better for her to meet dating partner in neutral territory where nobody knows her. If the first date in neutral territory goes well then go see her in her home town, if she object to this then you know something is up. some ladies might like to meet their dating partner in neutral territory for 2-3 visits until they are confident things will work out before accepting to visit them in her home town. it depends on the lady.
...and DON'T send money to her to meet you in kiev, you can get her details and book a flight ticket online on her behalf and send her the eticket itenary to her email addy. if she prefare taxi book taxi for her also online and pay taxi in advance or after they drop her off at your hotel in kiev
hi guys, ive been talking to a women from lugansk ukraine for a few weeks now and we get on really well, she is 27 and has a 3 year old daughter, she would like us to meet in the next few months,
and wants me to meet her daughter, i really like her but with all the talk about scammers especially from lugansk i am now very weary about talking to her again, are all women fron lugansk scammers like i have heard,,
Cornwall, it doesn't matter where, you are opened to be scammed anywhere over there.
have met two beautiful girls in lugansk.
its just that place is better geared up for scamming then others.
small time corruption seems more excepted there..
Those specializing in women from the former Soviet Union (FSU) have LOTS of scammers.
Ukraine is particularly rife with scammers, even by FSU standards (look at per-capita GDP for a clue as to why).
And Lugansk has a terrible reputation, even compared to the rest of Ukraine :(
But all this doesn't mean that there aren't women with sincere intentions in Lugansk. Welcome to the thrilling roller-coaster ride of FSU dating! If all of her photos are gorgeous, this is a bad sign -- but not proof. If in her first two or three letters she sent several glamorous photos, and freely used affectionate language, then she is very likely a scammer -- but this is not absolute proof!
One simple test is to copy a decent sized sentence or two from her first letter to you, and paste it into the google search control, being sure to put double quote marks at the beginning and end. If the search finds the exact wording on a scam reporting site, then you have your answer.
For me, the best indicator by correspondence is to engage her in really serious (non-romantic) dialog. Get into some tough questions: why are you looking outside your own country? Have you thought seriously about living in a foreign land? Do you prefer to be a homemaker, or is career very important to you? What are your parents like, and how is/was their marriage? What qualities are necessary for you in a husband, and what qualities are intolerable?
Most scammers are too lazy to fake this kind of stuff. Either they won't respond to your questions at all, or will answer with short, empty platitudes.
I used to think that showing a child on the profile was pretty safe (i.e., scammers like to show themselves as glamorous and without any attachments that might slow down their targets' fantasies). But recently, I have run into several who did show children on their profiles -- possibly, they are getting more sophisticated. Sigh.
WOW!!! you just found out?? and you came here to tell us your sad story?? we are not interested mate! I have already fallen to slepp))) snoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooorrrrrrrrrr
Just wanted to jump in here and relate a positive experience I had with a similar situation.
I had some training in France for four days starting Monday. Didn't have to be back to work until Tuesday so about a week before I flew to France I started looking for a woman to meet in Kiev thinking I could fly to Kiev, rent an apartment for the weekend and meet up with a few ladies.
I got on the website ukrainedate.com and sent out a few feelers. One came back, cute, single, no kids, teaches music, knows a little English.. lives in Kovel. Ok.. I'm good with that. We message back and forth a few times and I tell her that I will come to Ukraine in about 10 days and does she want to meet. Sure! she goes on to suggest that we meet in Kiev. Great. I reserve an apartment and give her the address. She said she would meet me in the airport, never asked for money, only the flight number.
Class is over on Thursday. Friday morning I'm on the plane to Kiev. She meets me in the airport and wow.. much better looking than I got from the photos. A nice hug and off we go to the apartment (there car picked us up) It's a one bedroom, I take the couch and she takes the bed (for the first night).. long story short.. it was a fantastic weekend. She had very good English. We walked, talked, rode the subway (my shirt got caught in the door, thought I was dead!), had coffee at a sidewalk cafe where all the artists are set up and visited some very old church that was interesting.
That was almost a year ago.. we've met three times since. Once in France, twice in Kiev. I'm headed back in August and I'll spend some days with her again. Wonderful woman, sweet, smart and so sexy, pure woman. Her emails never cease to amaze me. I can never go back to American women. I tried a few times since. What are they thinking?? Fat, stupid, bad attitude... One Ukrainian I know here in the US told me.. she sees two men in the household.. only one looks like a woman, but that's a subject for another post.
Don't automatically assume that when they ask to meet in Kiev that it's a scam.
olga is it exeptable to cut the head of a fsu lady that just died and paste it to a shemale body and put the website on this forum . is that an exeptable thing .
I had a long correspondance with a girl from Lugansk and yes she had me on interpreter, gifts and the apartment scam and asking for money but the apartment and money scam came after i booked into my hotel, thing is i did not see this coming she did not seem to be like this until i turned up to meet her in Lugansk, there was not much i could do about it other than sit there open mouthed and think i can not believe that this girl is such a blatant scam and not actualy care about it. As for Lugansk yes it is true parts of the city are very run down and areas of the city where apartment blocks are look like they have been hit by a B52. As for this guys girl asking for money for her travel expenses that would set alarm bells ringing for me based on my previous experience. Best suggestion is offer to book the tickets, flights from Lugansk should be at least 150 pounds return if booked online maybe less and see what she says.
request to meet in kiev firsat time is perfectly normal to protect herself from sex tourists hahhaha
say for instance you meet in in her home town and you and her hand in hand going out etc... and people who knows her saw her with you then you fly back home and things didn't work out so she had to try another man right, again in her home town walking hand in hand etc.. and being seen again by people who knows her. again after the date this didnt work out and so she had to try another man again...this could go on in cycle for ages...
now what would people who know her seing her with hand in hand with different men over the months think of her? think about this
that it why it's better for her to meet dating partner in neutral territory where nobody knows her. If the first date in neutral territory goes well then go see her in her home town, if she object to this then you know something is up. some ladies might like to meet their dating partner in neutral territory for 2-3 visits until they are confident things will work out before accepting to visit them in her home town. it depends on the lady.
...and DON'T send money to her to meet you in kiev, you can get her details and book a flight ticket online on her behalf and send her the eticket itenary to her email addy. if she prefare taxi book taxi for her also online and pay taxi in advance or after they drop her off at your hotel in kiev
hi guys, ive been talking to a women from lugansk ukraine for a few weeks now and we get on really well, she is 27 and has a 3 year old daughter, she would like us to meet in the next few months,
and wants me to meet her daughter, i really like her but with all the talk about scammers especially from lugansk i am now very weary about talking to her again, are all women fron lugansk scammers like i have heard,,
olga is it exeptable to cut the head of a fsu lady that just died and paste it to a shemale body and put the website on this forum . is that an exeptable thing .
I had a long correspondance with a girl from Lugansk and yes she had me on interpreter, gifts and the apartment scam and asking for money but the apartment and money scam came after i booked into my hotel, thing is i did not see this coming she did not seem to be like this until i turned up to meet her in Lugansk, there was not much i could do about it other than sit there open mouthed and think i can not believe that this girl is such a blatant scam and not actualy care about it. As for Lugansk yes it is true parts of the city are very run down and areas of the city where apartment blocks are look like they have been hit by a B52. As for this guys girl asking for money for her travel expenses that would set alarm bells ringing for me based on my previous experience. Best suggestion is offer to book the tickets, flights from Lugansk should be at least 150 pounds return if booked online maybe less and see what she says.
request to meet in kiev firsat time is perfectly normal to protect herself from sex tourists hahhaha
say for instance you meet in in her home town and you and her hand in hand going out etc... and people who knows her saw her with you then you fly back home and things didn't work out so she had to try another man right, again in her home town walking hand in hand etc.. and being seen again by people who knows her. again after the date this didnt work out and so she had to try another man again...this could go on in cycle for ages...
now what would people who know her seing her with hand in hand with different men over the months think of her? think about this
that it why it's better for her to meet dating partner in neutral territory where nobody knows her. If the first date in neutral territory goes well then go see her in her home town, if she object to this then you know something is up. some ladies might like to meet their dating partner in neutral territory for 2-3 visits until they are confident things will work out before accepting to visit them in her home town. it depends on the lady.
...and DON'T send money to her to meet you in kiev, you can get her details and book a flight ticket online on her behalf and send her the eticket itenary to her email addy. if she prefare taxi book taxi for her also online and pay taxi in advance or after they drop her off at your hotel in kiev
hi guys, ive been talking to a women from lugansk ukraine for a few weeks now and we get on really well, she is 27 and has a 3 year old daughter, she would like us to meet in the next few months,
and wants me to meet her daughter, i really like her but with all the talk about scammers especially from lugansk i am now very weary about talking to her again, are all women fron lugansk scammers like i have heard,,
olga is it exeptable to cut the head of a fsu lady that just died and paste it to a shemale body and put the website on this forum . is that an exeptable thing .
I had a long correspondance with a girl from Lugansk and yes she had me on interpreter, gifts and the apartment scam and asking for money but the apartment and money scam came after i booked into my hotel, thing is i did not see this coming she did not seem to be like this until i turned up to meet her in Lugansk, there was not much i could do about it other than sit there open mouthed and think i can not believe that this girl is such a blatant scam and not actualy care about it. As for Lugansk yes it is true parts of the city are very run down and areas of the city where apartment blocks are look like they have been hit by a B52. As for this guys girl asking for money for her travel expenses that would set alarm bells ringing for me based on my previous experience. Best suggestion is offer to book the tickets, flights from Lugansk should be at least 150 pounds return if booked online maybe less and see what she says.
request to meet in kiev firsat time is perfectly normal to protect herself from sex tourists hahhaha
say for instance you meet in in her home town and you and her hand in hand going out etc... and people who knows her saw her with you then you fly back home and things didn't work out so she had to try another man right, again in her home town walking hand in hand etc.. and being seen again by people who knows her. again after the date this didnt work out and so she had to try another man again...this could go on in cycle for ages...
now what would people who know her seing her with hand in hand with different men over the months think of her? think about this
that it why it's better for her to meet dating partner in neutral territory where nobody knows her. If the first date in neutral territory goes well then go see her in her home town, if she object to this then you know something is up. some ladies might like to meet their dating partner in neutral territory for 2-3 visits until they are confident things will work out before accepting to visit them in her home town. it depends on the lady.
...and DON'T send money to her to meet you in kiev, you can get her details and book a flight ticket online on her behalf and send her the eticket itenary to her email addy. if she prefare taxi book taxi for her also online and pay taxi in advance or after they drop her off at your hotel in kiev
hi guys, ive been talking to a women from lugansk ukraine for a few weeks now and we get on really well, she is 27 and has a 3 year old daughter, she would like us to meet in the next few months,
and wants me to meet her daughter, i really like her but with all the talk about scammers especially from lugansk i am now very weary about talking to her again, are all women fron lugansk scammers like i have heard,,
olga is it exeptable to cut the head of a fsu lady that just died and paste it to a shemale body and put the website on this forum . is that an exeptable thing .
I had a long correspondance with a girl from Lugansk and yes she had me on interpreter, gifts and the apartment scam and asking for money but the apartment and money scam came after i booked into my hotel, thing is i did not see this coming she did not seem to be like this until i turned up to meet her in Lugansk, there was not much i could do about it other than sit there open mouthed and think i can not believe that this girl is such a blatant scam and not actualy care about it. As for Lugansk yes it is true parts of the city are very run down and areas of the city where apartment blocks are look like they have been hit by a B52. As for this guys girl asking for money for her travel expenses that would set alarm bells ringing for me based on my previous experience. Best suggestion is offer to book the tickets, flights from Lugansk should be at least 150 pounds return if booked online maybe less and see what she says.
request to meet in kiev firsat time is perfectly normal to protect herself from sex tourists hahhaha
say for instance you meet in in her home town and you and her hand in hand going out etc... and people who knows her saw her with you then you fly back home and things didn't work out so she had to try another man right, again in her home town walking hand in hand etc.. and being seen again by people who knows her. again after the date this didnt work out and so she had to try another man again...this could go on in cycle for ages...
now what would people who know her seing her with hand in hand with different men over the months think of her? think about this
that it why it's better for her to meet dating partner in neutral territory where nobody knows her. If the first date in neutral territory goes well then go see her in her home town, if she object to this then you know something is up. some ladies might like to meet their dating partner in neutral territory for 2-3 visits until they are confident things will work out before accepting to visit them in her home town. it depends on the lady.
...and DON'T send money to her to meet you in kiev, you can get her details and book a flight ticket online on her behalf and send her the eticket itenary to her email addy. if she prefare taxi book taxi for her also online and pay taxi in advance or after they drop her off at your hotel in kiev
hi guys, ive been talking to a women from lugansk ukraine for a few weeks now and we get on really well, she is 27 and has a 3 year old daughter, she would like us to meet in the next few months,
and wants me to meet her daughter, i really like her but with all the talk about scammers especially from lugansk i am now very weary about talking to her again, are all women fron lugansk scammers like i have heard,,
olga is it exeptable to cut the head of a fsu lady that just died and paste it to a shemale body and put the website on this forum . is that an exeptable thing .
I had a long correspondance with a girl from Lugansk and yes she had me on interpreter, gifts and the apartment scam and asking for money but the apartment and money scam came after i booked into my hotel, thing is i did not see this coming she did not seem to be like this until i turned up to meet her in Lugansk, there was not much i could do about it other than sit there open mouthed and think i can not believe that this girl is such a blatant scam and not actualy care about it. As for Lugansk yes it is true parts of the city are very run down and areas of the city where apartment blocks are look like they have been hit by a B52. As for this guys girl asking for money for her travel expenses that would set alarm bells ringing for me based on my previous experience. Best suggestion is offer to book the tickets, flights from Lugansk should be at least 150 pounds return if booked online maybe less and see what she says.
request to meet in kiev firsat time is perfectly normal to protect herself from sex tourists hahhaha
say for instance you meet in in her home town and you and her hand in hand going out etc... and people who knows her saw her with you then you fly back home and things didn't work out so she had to try another man right, again in her home town walking hand in hand etc.. and being seen again by people who knows her. again after the date this didnt work out and so she had to try another man again...this could go on in cycle for ages...
now what would people who know her seing her with hand in hand with different men over the months think of her? think about this
that it why it's better for her to meet dating partner in neutral territory where nobody knows her. If the first date in neutral territory goes well then go see her in her home town, if she object to this then you know something is up. some ladies might like to meet their dating partner in neutral territory for 2-3 visits until they are confident things will work out before accepting to visit them in her home town. it depends on the lady.
...and DON'T send money to her to meet you in kiev, you can get her details and book a flight ticket online on her behalf and send her the eticket itenary to her email addy. if she prefare taxi book taxi for her also online and pay taxi in advance or after they drop her off at your hotel in kiev
hi guys, ive been talking to a women from lugansk ukraine for a few weeks now and we get on really well, she is 27 and has a 3 year old daughter, she would like us to meet in the next few months,
and wants me to meet her daughter, i really like her but with all the talk about scammers especially from lugansk i am now very weary about talking to her again, are all women fron lugansk scammers like i have heard,,
olga is it exeptable to cut the head of a fsu lady that just died and paste it to a shemale body and put the website on this forum . is that an exeptable thing .
I had a long correspondance with a girl from Lugansk and yes she had me on interpreter, gifts and the apartment scam and asking for money but the apartment and money scam came after i booked into my hotel, thing is i did not see this coming she did not seem to be like this until i turned up to meet her in Lugansk, there was not much i could do about it other than sit there open mouthed and think i can not believe that this girl is such a blatant scam and not actualy care about it. As for Lugansk yes it is true parts of the city are very run down and areas of the city where apartment blocks are look like they have been hit by a B52. As for this guys girl asking for money for her travel expenses that would set alarm bells ringing for me based on my previous experience. Best suggestion is offer to book the tickets, flights from Lugansk should be at least 150 pounds return if booked online maybe less and see what she says.
request to meet in kiev firsat time is perfectly normal to protect herself from sex tourists hahhaha
say for instance you meet in in her home town and you and her hand in hand going out etc... and people who knows her saw her with you then you fly back home and things didn't work out so she had to try another man right, again in her home town walking hand in hand etc.. and being seen again by people who knows her. again after the date this didnt work out and so she had to try another man again...this could go on in cycle for ages...
now what would people who know her seing her with hand in hand with different men over the months think of her? think about this
that it why it's better for her to meet dating partner in neutral territory where nobody knows her. If the first date in neutral territory goes well then go see her in her home town, if she object to this then you know something is up. some ladies might like to meet their dating partner in neutral territory for 2-3 visits until they are confident things will work out before accepting to visit them in her home town. it depends on the lady.
...and DON'T send money to her to meet you in kiev, you can get her details and book a flight ticket online on her behalf and send her the eticket itenary to her email addy. if she prefare taxi book taxi for her also online and pay taxi in advance or after they drop her off at your hotel in kiev
hi guys, ive been talking to a women from lugansk ukraine for a few weeks now and we get on really well, she is 27 and has a 3 year old daughter, she would like us to meet in the next few months,
and wants me to meet her daughter, i really like her but with all the talk about scammers especially from lugansk i am now very weary about talking to her again, are all women fron lugansk scammers like i have heard,,