Hi Pete, flying with Emirates is going to cost NZ$2360 that includes all the extras they tag on. With easter and the school holidays in April, most of the other airlines have sold out of cheap tickets for that month. I spent about an hour in the flightcentre last week and they had nothing. Rang Emirates direct and they had tickets no problem. Its NZ$400 cheaper if you go before April.
I thought you would be headed to Kiev not Moscow???
Shortest way in from NZ or Aus is in through Soeul then join with an S-7 (Siberian Airlines) flight into Novosibirsk. From there you can get 1 of two per day to Moscow or a number of other places. Beats the hell out of going around the other way.
Thats an adventurous why to go I/O ;))
Do you know anything about the phones there? Ive had several sms from a girl in Omsk, the thing is, when I reply she never gets them. Do some of their mobils not except messages form overseas? Ive sent sms messages to others in Russia and not had problems.
No not adventurous at all. Believe me I've been in there every which way but loose and probably that as well. You can go Aus/NZ to Pie King or Soeul and across to Novosibirsk with S-7 and whilst their planes are older, they run mainly older A-310 Airbus and they are quite a good plane. S-7 is a great little airline and I've used them a lot. I've done the Dubai thing and it sucks. I've done the London route and it sucks more. Probably the easiest of the Western routes is Singapore / Istanbul then Kiev or Moscow or Odessa, I've done that a few times and it's ok, but I promise you, the Eastern route is the way to go. So much less flying time and usually you can get decent connections. Flight Centre won't know much about it until you really push them. In Novosibirisk the international is about 50 metres walk from the domestic and it is so much easier than Mosphuct that it's a joke.
Phones: Hmmmm I'd be suss of that. My other half comes from Omsk and is backwards and forwards between here and there all the time. We simply never have a problem and use whatever Russian SIMs are the cheapest at the time. I hay-ga-me-doots bout that one I am sorry to say. Geeeeeeeeeeeez man if you are thinking Omsk it is only 500kms from Novosibirsk, you gotta be crazy to go over the west side. That's nuts.:-) There is one tiny trap in getting to Omsk via Novosibirsk from here. No flights from Novosibirsk to Omsk. It is 8 hours by train for about $40 Au for a sleeper. Suits me perfect, because there is 4 per day and I usually get a night job and roll into Omsk like a fresh meal. :-)
Mate. Get a map out and lay it flat and you'll see what I mean. If one is set on Moscow, the Istanbul route is not bad, but still slower than the Eastern route. But OMG Towel Head Territory (Dubai) is next to madness. These travel agents don't know shite from clay. My poor agent understands that I am the client from hell, but he does a really good job and he has probably made the odd penny or seven out of us too. Don't come into any of this BS that you can't change tickets and they want your left you know what if you do. That's horse shite. With agents of any sort and travel agents particularly, you gotta get into their dumb heads that they are working for YOU, not the other way around.
BTW if you use S-7 airlines, they can, for the new guys arrange the whole shooting match for you, driver over to the rail station, rail tickets rah rah rah and they don't rip you off. You'll pay retail, but not dumbass prices. Aeroshite and all the rest IMHO are lower than a ducks guts in the bog.
I can speak enough Russian to get myself into trouble and not much more, but here is an easy trick to get yourself out of the airport, to the rail station and buy a ticket and get on a train. Use an E-translator with a back translator (Internet) and type yourself up a few flash cards, for example...Please show me which bus to the rail station. Or I need to buy a ticket to Omsk, I need a sleeper cabin. Get yourself armed up with a dozen or so obvious ones and it goes without saying, put the message in English on the other side and you'll find you can get most places you want to go. Just cut 'em credit card size and they'll slip in your wallet.
Another thing which is a must is 1 yes 1, if you missed it I said 1 piece of luggage and 1 very small piece of hand luggage. Make sure the main piece is not big and then you can get on and off busses etc quick and easy. Gaaaaaaaaawd I watch 'em roll in with the kitchen sink in tow and dumbass printed on the forehead. I think you hear me.
It really is not too difficult if you think a bit. Piss the taxi drivers off with "Nyet Spaciba" at the airports and go buy a take out coffee from the machine. You got 'em toasted then, because they think you are just hanging for the next flight. Then you have time to spy out the lay of the land. Never never smile at the pricks when you are trying to figure anything or find out something. Dunno what it is, but a smile seems to translate into dumbass/free lunch/he'll be minus some roubles when I've finished with him. LOL.
Back to the phone thing, I have the odd problem with mine on roaming in Russia as SMS's don't always come through, hence I buy SIM each time and use that, but that shouldn't be a great problem for you, but the more I think about her phone problem, the more I smell "Yuri Shite". A Russian SIM has always been 100% for us sending and receiving messages both ways. I'm not buying this yarn without some more info.
Good advice, which I realize was written specifically for an fellow Aussie or New Zealander but much of it was general too. Gotta make a comment though on the luggage. I would LOVE to be able to limit myself to one small principal piece of luggage - but I always find myself with two - a quite large piece and a slightly smaller bag. And the reasons are two.
#1,. Since most of my trip were to see the same girl there was always something large and bulky that she wanted from the US. Or just MANY small things she wanted from the US, that were completely unavailable where she lived. Examples include a big fluffy bathrobe. Jars of peanut butter. American shampoos etc. branded products that, while available in the FSU, she is convinced is of inferior quality when purchased over there.
#2. I find it nearly impossible to pack for three weeks while HOPING to wear fresh clean-smelling clothes (while some guys wouldn't mind wearing the same thing over and over - we are there, at least in part, intending to dress to impress...). There are no laundry facilities available in most apartments except a bathroom sink and elbow grease and I am not particularly INTO hand washing my dress pants and hanging them in the bathroom to dry. I have yet to see a coin operated laundry machine. I DID make special arrangements once in a small private hotel to wash some of my laundry. A lady who was part of hotel staff took it home with her and personally did it, charging me $1 per item to wash it and $1 to press each item (whether it really was an item that need pressing or not - I had the best creased jeans you've ever seen) which seemed completely ridiculous.
I can safely manage the two large suitcases myself - attaching one to the other by means of straps and then wheeling them together as one. And, unfortunately, there seems to be no other way.
I hear you. However, I have learned by great amount of thought and of course trial and error. The two biggest issues are coats and shoes. They just take up endless space. My darling's family gets "What I Bring"..LOL. As did she in the early days. She actually never asked me to bring anything other than the coffee she fell in love with when she was first here way back when if I remember correctly. They know me better than to give me a wish list. But they do pretty well as it were.
Poly mix slacks are just great, because you can, even if you hate it, give them a rinse in the sink and dry them in the room. I've probably lived 10 months of the last 4 years out of suit cases, and I guess have made a hobby out of daring myself with shortages. Shirts are just a pisser whichever way you do it. I usually go apartment now so the hotel thing doesn't limit me in that respect. (My IL's apartment isn't big enough for all of us)
The bottom line is, whichever way you do it, gear yourself to move quick if need be. Oh, one more thing for those going from a warmer climate to the colder parts of Russia. Don't fall for the "Thermals Trap" they are just a pest. All nice an warm on the street and you go inside and melt. You can only take X number of clothes off LOL.
I'd have to put the thinking cap on a lot tighter to recall some of the stupid things I did in the early times. Got on the wrong bus at the Ufa airport and ended up in the international and not the domestic. Copped a fair spray from some $100/month jumped up before I had to leg it across the tarmac to the domestic. LOL But hey, it is all just too much fun.
I have gotten especially fast at assembling my two cases by strapping them together. The entire reason for that is a 10 meter long strip inside of the airport in Chisinau, between the baggage conveyer and customs, where I have now been four times.
Once you take your second piece of luggage from the belt you have approximately thirty seconds to put it all together and look like you can handle it yourself before some big burley guy (there are about four of them stationed at the conveyor at all times) comes over and informs you that he is going to "help you" move the bags the 10 meters - and you know its going to cost you BIG TIME (saw one guy pay $5, multiple "helpers" all want to paid indivually of course - saw one guy fork over $20 to move two bags 10 meters!). Once they see you having the slightest bit of trouble, they will b not be waved off, and they use a limited understadning of English to their advantage ignoring your protests that you do not want help.
And these guys work closely with the customs officers who are your next stop, so you do not want to try and stiff them.
You MUST look like you have it all under control and you must move quickly when you need to or you will pay.
Pardon to all that this thread seems to have turned from letters of invitation to PACKING, but it did.
Anyway - got to say something nice here about "Space Bags" - you know - the bags that you can put something (like a big fluffy bathrobe for your lady on her request, or something entirely for yourself) into, squeeze the air out of and then fit nicely in your suit case.
I always bring a garbage bag or two along to use in much the same way. Works especially well for three weeks worth of dirty laundry. You put it in the garbage bag, squeeze all the air out and then tie it. Looks vaccuum packed and is easily transported home.
You know, in the US they supposedly "ramdomly" choose a few bags coming into the country for Homeland Security to thoroughly inspect. I say "randomly" because it always seems like when I come in from the FSU - MY BAGS are among those inspected (some "random"). I always enjoy seeing the required sheet of paper informing me that this particular bag has been opened and completely inspected from top to bottom. I say I "enjoy it" because it always seems that they choose my bag of dirty laundry to inspect. Not only do they have to deal with it being dirty - but they also have to requeeze it and get it back in the bag. I hope the Homeland Security has a great time doing that each and every time.
Adman – Lena went via Seoul last year to Moscow and then down to Kiev (she has Aunties in Moscow)
I usually travel via BKK and then AeroSvit to Kiev – but they (AeroSvit ) have whacked the fare up from $606US to just over $1000US from BKK – Kiev. Lena’s 2 trips she has done alone, that have been routed via Korea – have cost exactly the same as your fare – that’s as far as Moscow – not counting the extra $200US Moscow – Kiev. We heading over for summer (theirs) and will probably pay the extra with AeroSvit – as a very uncomplicated and direct flight to Kiev and under 20 hours flying time.
Don't stay ''sails hotel'' in dubai --unless you just robbed a bank its over the top - mate il ask natasha all the details where we did stay in dubai now we got a good deal but it was like $145 usd a night the two of us .that was about the most affordable we found.
il get her to dig out the book mate il go onto forum tomorrow night and il give you list and prices hotels .
mate dubai aint cheep --
ok when in st peters we stay helvetia hotel its $200 usd a night --but then - hey i just let natasha do all the bookings --she takes care the ''trivia ''.
ok helvitia in st peters 4 days hmm 3 of us ( i got stuck my girls girlfriend as well ) yes its a basterd getting stuck with 2 ay -but ok the 4 nights cost us last month 634$ usd ouch ! and each meal x 3 us we did it in style 3000 rubles a feed and we had 3 feeds a day = 9k rubles a day ------but but but i can afford thats how i like to live yu maybe dead tomorrow ----------i dont want to found in gutter unpolished boots and the silks all wrinkled --man can't --be seen as a bum !
hey my next trip paid for i just sold 50 x my latest dvd special works i do to a yank to onsell he just paid $50 ea x 50 plus i sold 27 yesterday $50 a pop .
i dont know why folks worry of $$$$$$.???
I SOLD one dvd production i did last year 53k the whole shebang!!--sell yu knowledge brother never yu assetts as they say ---if you seen in detail what i do for a quid yu mouth id hit the ground --i wont speak of my work on forum id end up --with beggin letters / maybe .maybe not ! il speak off forum though is you have interest .
I put my girl in pics on rear my dvd's --smart smart ''sex sells everybody loves a pretty blonde !'' and of course i give her 1/2 proceeds each one i do she helps me day and night !smart girl ------knows where the bread is buttered ay .
i could show you how to make a fortune in russia --though only worry i have is the powers that be get a bit ''testy '' when i show up with you know cameras dvd 1 size down from channel nine size cameras .
i near lost one once worth 9k to officious basterds at airport = idiots -
iam trying to get permission to take the monster camera to Rostov hmm -its security area that town militart type joint --you pull out a 4 x 6 inch digital camera you get some funny looks if your in the ''err wrong section of town ''
If i could ever find a bloke i could take with me filming trip in russia = unhindered filming trip id make a bloody fortune --somebody has to carry the bags ay --and id Pay his way .
STILL you know what folks are like mate all full of excuses not dinkum --ohh ive got to work / or some mundane excuse like that -----how would anybody let work stand in way of good time ?? makes no sence at all --i wannu go russia i just ring manager tell him ..like the old add from tv the pears soap add the guy in the jet ''SIMON ''TAHITI '' thats the way as i do just grab bag anytime and do it .
i get natasha plan all my trips she bloody good at it too !
mike 00
Been away for awhile. First good luck on your trip. Good advise here but my feeling is meet the girl in her hometown first and if you are interested in each other then spend thetime together in St Pete's and Moscow. Why go on the honeymoon before get to meet each other. It is easy to have a good time on trip(girl)because you will be paying for everything Adman, just be careful. You girl may end up being truely genuine, but the thought of a small time girl going to the big city frightens me. The visa process in very simple, the advise is good. Nobody mentioned about where you would register your immigration papers. This must be done within 3 working days. There are services that do this if you stay in Apts. Since you will be in 3 different cities, you may run into some questioning( with police),ending up in small city with papers that are registered in the big city. Not a big problem but just to make you aware. I always get questioned when I'm in St Pete's. Good Luck again
Thanks for the good thoughts. Unfortunately I am the worst person for taking good advice. I tend to through the rule book out the window, just for the hell of it.
Its all planned and being booked so there is no way out of it now. Really though I am ok with it. I am not that keen about landing in Moscow alone and not being able to speak the lingo. So having her meet me at the airport is rather nice.
I want to see as much as I can while Im there, so why not have a cute tour guide help?.)) It promises to be a very good time ). If all turns to custard I am not too concerned, I have a few others to call. What ever happens, itll be a great adventure and I wont be coming home complaining.
Hows it all going with you?
Thanks for the tips Mike, your trips sound like a hellva lot of fun )). I dont think Ill be carrying a bunch of flash cameras or wearing those funny cork hats like you guys do though LOL. I think Ill be looking to slip under the radar a little more like what I/O was saying.
Have to keep in touch. Might pop down and see you one weekend. The little one reckons she passed here dangerous driving course sliding around in the snow the other day. Im never too sure about woman drivers though.
Ive been told:)) shes flying in from Volgograd. Tells me her plane will land in Domodedovo 30 minutes after mine. Sounds good. I know aeroflot dont land there, maybe another carrier does.
Going good here, got back last week from tour #2. Was in St pete's and kiev and simferopol. Quite a 13 day journey. I will post my experiences. Had problems my first trip in Moscow...did not know I had to get from #2 terminal to #1 terminal,go thru customs AND wait an hour to pick up luggage...needless to say I missed my flight
to St pete's. Those taxi drivers wanted big bucks to take you from one terminal to the other and you know..they got you over a barrel. Good luck again!! Check out Peter and Paul fortress, my favorite if you love history
I wrote you in another thread about just driving around and exploring Ukraine. Before going I went ahead and got a visa for Moldovia too, just in case I wanted to head that direction. You DO need a visa for Moldova.
But, you don't need an inviatation letter. The Moldova visa is much easier to process than a visa for Russia.
That said-- I have the visa in my passport, but I didn't use it. I did get one from the Moldova embassy in DC before startig my trip, but I never presented it at the border. So, there is a possibility I might be wrong, and you could get a visa at entry (like in Turkey)-- but I did get mine before going.
For Ukraine, all you need now (after the Orange Revolution) is that magic blue book with an Eagle on the cover. No visa inside of it is needed.
If you have Embassy access, you can of course get a visa before leaving your home country. However ALL foreign citizens can receive a visa at entry points to Moldova.
Hey Beemer
Good to hear a little about your trip. You are a brave man going at this time of year. Of course if the weather is that bad, there is always indoor activities:) Have you posted more of your experiences yet? Are the women in St Pete still as gorgeous as ever? And how did you find the languge problem with meeting the women in the street? My woman is already monopolizing my time, so I expect I will be kept on a very short leash. Those fortresses and places sound great, we have nothing like it in my country. I plan to do a lot of exporing while Im there.