olenka
when a man gets to know a ukranian lady after a few days, WHY do they ask for money for train plane or something else?
even if she is a student i still think it is diabolical liberty.
Olenka,
Maybe you will never write back here, I hope you do. I regard to you saying to give to girls from Nikolaev and you will get what you want back...girls seem to thrive on the on the giving part of equation. I hear that you must capture her heart. The trouble comes in getting what you want back, maybe in months if not year and by that time girl thinks it will not work out.
First of all not all girls ask for many after a few days of knowing a man, and if she does, the reason she is in the internet, definitely not marriage. I’m sure that some girls think of all this marriage agencies and meeting a guys just in a way to make some money. (BUT ONLY SOME!) Most of the women I personally got know what as simply to have a family, children, to have somebody she can take care of and to fill that somebody take care of her too. And if after writing and talking to each other she wants to meet a guy (because nothing can be more important than personal meeting) she ask to buy a ticket for her or help her with a visa formalities, it’s not because she wants to use you, it’s just because she wants to see you but can’t afford it herself, she wants to develop your relationship and to see if it for a lifetime..
Of course it might happen, but you have to keep trying, may be it just was the wrong girl for you.. in life there’s no guarantee in anything, not only in relationship. But when I meant to give something, I definitely meant you heart, your time, your attention to see her as often as you can. I believe it’s all about chemistry, ether you have it or you don’t, and if not, nothing could last for too long.
Olenka,
Iam certainly not questioning your insight on things...maybe it is different now...girls seem to want things they have only dreamed of and take much more than have given. I am sure there are girls of what you speak of but my feeling is that they are few and far between.
I went to Nikolaev after Marina Rudenko from Lazurnaya Street, last November 2006. She played the game of "MORAL,NOT STAYING WITH ME in flat during nights, because I was A STRANGER" and She did left me alone every nights in a 10th floor, without elevator, miserable flat. She did not play the "MORAL" game to ask me for money, and constantly asked to use my Credit Cards to buy stuff for her greedy family. I learned a lesson: before you travel 7,000 miles, make sure that your girlfriend knows a very important rule: If you play the moral game for sex, you must play the moral game for money too". In other words: " NO SEX, NO MONEY." It sound vulgar and uneducated from me, a teacher, but that is my honest advice.
I went again to Nikolaev and met with Lyuda, last April 2007. Lyuda was my loyal companion in a flat for my two weeks, and still writes to me. She is 20 years old, and wishes to marry with me next Spring 2008. She wants to stay in Nikolaev, near her beloved mother. She is NOT trying to marry with me to come to America; not a "CATCH" here.
Nikolaev is a beautiful City. I paid $250.00 for 14 days (two weeks) for a 2 rooms flat, hot water, gas stove,wall to wall carpet, shower, refrigerator, telephone, iron, towels, bed spreads, an iron, and a friendly attention, near Center City.
If you will travel from USA to Nikolaev or Oddessa, please call me free by microphone attached to your computer SKYPE: 1-856-393-1667 User: tsavalas2007 My name is Emilio Mujica. I am a Teacher of Spanish, and English in New Jersey. I will refer you to my girlfriend Lyuda. She will find you a Ukranian priced apartment, and Vladix my friend will be your driver for only around $40. per day. Taxis will cost you $30. for a short trip, if they know that you are American!! There are many established businesses now in Ukraine, and they have very high prices. Lyuda and Vladix are my friends in Nikolaev, and they will make you feel at home, with a lower and fair price. Of course, they will always thank a good traveller that pay little extra tips. Vladix took me to the Biggest Zoo in Nikolaev, the Hipodromo for Horse Racing, The Buh River Ports, and Famous Ships Builders, and (A Massage Hot Spas Private Business with indoors swimming pool, Bed, a bottle of your favorite drink, and a gorgeous Ukranian woman, a you may choose to bring condoms in case you wish to be lucky, like I was).
If you fly by Delta, Aerosvit, or Aeroflot you will have the best service and prices. I do not get commission from these lines. I am just a very happy costumer. From Oddessa Airport, you will call my friend Lyuda and She will bring you to Nikolaev for $100. Dollars. You are talking about 80 miles along a long single lane country road, with corrupted policemen trying to get their little help (like $20. from driver; they will not bother you as a passenger!!). Policemen are very friendly.
By the way in Oddessa Airport, do not bring any gifts because a corrupted Sargent and a woman Supervisor (They do not show Name Tags or IDs!!) they will ask you to pay 50% of the price of the gift!! For example, I was forced to pay $500. dollars because I declared that I had a wedding ring gift priced at $1,000. in USA. Bring your money in Debit Cards, or Credit Cards, and not more than $1,000. in cash. Buy the gifts in Nikolaev.
PLEASE!! DO NOT TRAVEL TO ANY COUNTRY IF YOU CAN NOT AFFORD AT LEAST $2,000.. STAY AT HOME IF YOU ARE BROKE. You will never find a more sincere man than me. [I call "bread" bread, and "wine" wine.] (A Spanish proverb for blunt honesty: "Llamar Al pan, pan y al vino, vino."
Should I charge you for this information? Ha Ha!! I am joking!! Enjoy your trip.!!! By the way, I have discovered a secret twist in my computer to use a SATELLITE IMAGES server in Ukraine, and I can see the cars, building tops, streets, bridges, and monuments like if I were flying at 500 feet over the Cities of Oddessa, and Nikolaev!! Do not even ask me. This will be a bonus for my trusted friends, if you meet my plan.It was funny, because I asked the Taxi driver to make a right turn in an Intersection near GOLDEN CLEOPATRA STORE in Center City Nikolaev to go to Odessa. I already knew the Streets!! Also, I walked from my flat to a local MC Donald Store that I saw the YELLOW ARC in the Satellite images.
Wow that is a good deal for the flat. $250 for 14 days comes to $17.86 per day!
I paid $80 per day in Kiev, $40 per day in Mariupol (no extra charge for the cockroaches - in Mariupol - a bug which I had never even seen before). Sounds like you got a bargain.
You have not seen a cockroach until you live in the Northern tropics of Australia.
I lived in north Queensland, on the tropic of capricorn for 6 years and boy there were some big cockroaches.
When they fell to the floor they sounded like your quarters ( our 20 cent piece equivelant ) falling on the floor.
Big dudes, some 2 inches long with wings, used to shake them of the bathroom towels in the hotter humid summers..you can't control them..heat and humidity breeds them like wild fire, used lots of surface sprays and insdect killers to try and keep there numbers down!
Bored......usually spelled 'borshch', I don't know where you got the 'T' from.......good soup thou!!
This for those that are going to FSU to pronouce it right.
Vida are you encountering young girls who post that they are okay dating men 40 years older then themselves or something else? Is Nikolaev a dive like most seem to bash it in this forum? And why are so many girls now joining the agencies from there? any clues?
Dcv
anne nicole smith and the old fellow she married -she was about 26 and him 80 i think that is where many FSU women get their ideas and inspiration from.