No problems Beemer, I know its going to fizzle out by the tone of her last letter which I got early this morning by the way, sent yesterday.
You just know, I can easily read between the lines of it, last and most detailed letter I got, perhaps it thought I deserved it for sending her a nice gift, its no big deal, I am not worried at all what I spent on it, it was a worthwhile exercise to prove something to myself and confirm my gut instincts about her of which beforehand, there was nothing really tangible to say "yes" or "no"!
Its gone the way of the dodo by itself!
Like I said in past posts, she was the last FSU girl contact I had, there will be no more, I am not starting up any!
Seems that the girl was a little smarter than you aussieman. You're a game player and when the girls figure it out, then they become the scammers. Why write these women if they are the worst and most devious bitches in the world as your mom and dad told you. What's the point in writing unless you have a non existent life?
Nasfan, most of what I encountered in last 2 years was pure scammers, only 1 girl was real and I spent 4 hours talking to her on the telephone but we did not go ahead as she felt Australia was too far away from her homeland, Ukraine, so we moved on.
When it comes to the crunch most are scammers or not really happy to leave their country..fair enough..I would not leave Australia to go live in the Ukraine, either!
I have a good life, Nasfan and meet a local girl today over a meal and a cup of coffee and we are meeting up again over the weekend. We aking her to the movies to see the new Catherine Zeta Jones flick, "No reservations" and before that we are having a meal in an Italian restaurant called "La Porchetta" We meet on MSN chat!
Its a whole lot of less trouble than FSU girls..no immigration red tape, expenses of thousands of dollars and no scammers to deal with!
An immigration lawyer here told me on an advice line, that its unlikely I would get approved to sponsor another foreign girl fiance as I have had one foreign fiance and marriage, you are only allowed 2 in your lifetime and its not 5 years since the official divorce date, I am not eligible until June 29th 2008 and its very hard to get a second fiance visa approved, needs lots of evidence and compelling reasons and there not keen to approve girls from Former Soviet Union Countries because of lots of problems with them, immigration scams or they just become a burden on the Government.
It was a premium rate phone call but it told me everything I needed to know...$20 small price for good advice from the legal eagles mouth!
The rules themselves have completely scotched my chances of success so don't waste my money or time on them!
I sent a courtesy letter to Miss K.R scammer, telling it, I did not want to continue with her as we were not compatable and that a fiance visa or visit was not going to happen and forget about me! I did this, this evening and she might read her mail box over the weekend..I quietly and politely pulled the plug and did not use or mention word scammer, why bother..just quickly pull the plug with no fuss and don't look back!
All girls are not smarter nasfan..they just think different to men!
She only cost me $75 dart set..it was a good lesson and experience..it set it into concrete for me, not to involve myself further with foreign girls as it was not practical!
Good luck with your multiple trips to FSU, sooner or latter you will get really burnt and not stand in moral judgement of me and others in this forum, nasfan!
Sometimes your a hypocritical ass!
I got morals..I quietly pulled the plug on this and girl don't know that I know she is a scammer and her past track record..live and let die and leave it at that!
I stand corrected about your multiple trips to the FSU..your already married to a Ukrainian girl, so you informed and I forget about that fact so you got no business going there without your woman!
Have a happy marriage..don't get divorced if you can help it..don't wish it on anybody even if they call me a retard!
Ah, the dawn of my realization, that I have no business looking for an FSU women because it can't work for me anyway.
Nasfan, all the women in the Ukraine can now be at ease knowing I will not be contacting them, alleleuh, they are saved from the retarded aussieman and I will eat humble pie!
Sticks and stones may break my bones but names will never hurt me!
Seems like a date of June 29th, 2008 would be a good thing to me. You have almost a year to find and get to know the gal and there's no pressure to bring her over anytime before that. Let the RW knowthat up front and you can use that to mutual advantage.
Thats the date,Aussie immigration rules impose on you. Its like this, if you have been previously married to a foreign fiance/woman in Australia, you can not apply to sponsor another foreign fiance until at least 5 years have elapsed since your official court finalisation of your divorce, not from date you separated and stopped living with her.
Technically, I have been living away from the ex for 6 years, thats when I left her, that anniversary is actually today, September 8th, 6 years since I left the bitch but the divorce did not happen until about 18 months latter.
Heres something that some Aussies might not know about marriage here.
There is a compulsory waiting period of 12 months, you must prove that you are living separate from your ex-wife and marriage has been irretreivably broken down before you can file for a divorce provided that the marriage has existed longer than 2 years.
If your marriage here stuffs up and its less than 2 years old here, you have to serve a 2 year waiting period before you can file for divorce, in the meantime you have a total impediment to marriage to anyone.
Also you can not successfully apply as a sponsor for a foreign fiance visa or file an intent to marry her as part of the application unless you are clearly divorced because you have to provide your certificate of divorce with your part of the immigration paperwork, smae for her, if previously married, she must put her official country divorce papers in with it as well or its not going to go any where!
There will be no more RWs for me Batman, some men here such as Nasfan will crack a bottle of champagne over that, that "the Aussie predator and gamester, is not pursueing helpless FSU women anymore,alleleuh!"
As for cracking a bottle of champagne, that won't happen. Get real in life and quit posting idiotic nonsense about statistics etc. Get in the game. As JMO once said, time to shut down the computer and get in the game Aussieman.
Aussieman, at least you found out that the girl was a scammer, before you forked out thousands on visiting her, i think way to many blokes get a few nice e mails from a cracking looking bird and it's off to the airport, i would wait atleast 4-6 months before meeting a girl,building up the relationship in the mean time, and we you do meet, get her to make a commitment, for example if the airport you arrive at is a long way from her home town, get her to pay for a nights stay in a hotel, remember, if a girl is serious about you, this is a small price to pay, for what could turn out to be eternal happiness.
Thats what I did with my first foreign wife 18 years ago in days before internet, 6 months of letter writing and telephone calls, then one personal visit which was successful and lead to marriage that lasted 12 years, none of this multiple trips to the same country meeting different women because some men can't get it right crap, on the first go or many goes!
For a small few, meeting a FSU bird is great, for many more its all about getting hurt and loosing lots of money!
She must speake the Queens English proper enough and read proper enough at least 3 on a scale of 5 in proficiency for it to work or have a chance.
Its not a game, Nasfan, theres serious money involved, serious amount of time and not to mention feelings that can get hurt when men embark in the search for a bride from the FSU.
You must be a millionaire that can throw money to the wind, Nasfanny! ( I had to borrow that one from boredffuka because its a classic )
Oh Nasfan, I took a local girl to an Italian restauarant tonight and then to a movie, we meet on MSN chat in a chat room a few days ago and she only lives 3 km ( 2 miles from me ).
She is 30 years old, 13 years difference but we seem to hit it off with each other.
She does not like science fiction movies, so I wont put those dvd's on for her but got plently of over movies to pick from including 4 porn dvd's!
We are meeting up again, during the week.
Hold it, the phones ringing!
Oh, it was her, she is coming over shortly and its past midnight here to spend the night with me as she is lonely..I am going to get a fook!
I think I will have a smile on my face in the morning!
I am in the game, Nasfan, the local dating game!
FSU intenet dating of girls is history for me!
Aussieman is not searching or probing the net for the FSU scammers, there safe from me now, they can come out and play there games with other men including you, my former lovely piece of work, Iryna!
Gotta go, I heard her car pull up in my driveway.
Congrats Ausssie....sleeping with a women you have just met!!! Wonder who she was with last week or week before.
I read that herpes shows up many months later and partner usually doesn't even know they have it!!! What did you say about smile on your face in the morning???
Thought you were looking for a wife???? Was your $75 for dinner and movie a wise investment? I can get laid for only $50. Wonder how much you will spend on this girl at home... until she finds another that is in better shape than you!
Why do I get the feeling you were never serious about the FSU thing??
Good Luck down under!!
We are really hitting it off, going with my new gal down to the coast for a bit of a pleasant Sunday drive and picnic in the sunny spring weather we are having.
Told her about this forum and Russian brides, she was very amused, said I did not need one of those, she does not like foreigners, says we got too many and we don't need anymore.
She says all foreigners must be speak good English before there allowed in and not talk in wog!
She knows about scammers and thinks all foreign girls who marry an Aussie bloke and come here, use the bloke as an easy ticket to the good life and don't marry the bloke out of love but to use them and thinks the girls, if they leave the guy, should be kicked out of Oz, fook off home back to there countries where they belong!
She thinks my foreign ex-wife should fook off back to her own country!
She says it as she sees it, frank and upfront, no pussy footing around!
Beemer, genius, how many guys do you think a FSU womans been sleeping with before you meet her and is still sleeping with while she writes to you and takes your money, many have boyfriends or even husbands and they play around on the net, some are husband/wife, boy/girl scammer teams out to get money and stuff.
All girls have slept around before you meet them, same for guys too!
I got nothing for my $75 darts set, one e-mail every 2 weeks in I am lucky because the FSU thing said it was too busy to go to the internet cafe and write letters, no personal mail from her, it does not cost that much to send an international letter even from Ukraine to Australia by air mail..it was a total waste of time and a good lesson to know when to quit.
A seriuos girl would make more effort to you if you were sending her gifts and find the time, nobody is that busy.
The $75 darts set was an experiment to fully sus her out and see how it responds to prevent a costly trip there, I got enough information out of that exercise, to know a trip to Ukraine would be a total waste for me and that the girl was not serious and in that time, I found scam reports on her made by other guys, they were old and did not show up in google.
It was very small money for me, consider it a small gamble, I lost money on ( like making a wager on a horse race and loosing ) and its no big deal at all, what knowledge I gained from it, saved me at least 100 times more money.
Its was all part of my investigative process on her to prevent a costly mistake and it worked..she took a while to be coaxed out to be forthcoming, to get the conclusive info on her to know for certain, she was no good!
It pays to investigate a FSU girl beforehand, before youe ven make plans to travel there.
Don't believe what she writes to you or says to you on the telephone, if you are lucky enough to get one, that speaks and understands English!
It will cost a small amount of money to do an investigation, but if the invstigation turns up, she is no good, you will save heaps of money.
Its worth paying for a detective background check and report on her and if you are serious about going, pay the extra and have a surveillance report done on her if you feel uncomfortable.
Even if it turned out, she was o.k for me in my own investigation, before going I would have paid up to $500 for a detective and surveillance report on her!
You don't trust foreign woman..you must confirm she is real, where she lives and what her real life is before going on a visit for your own good and protection, guys..trust no foreigners!
Yeah and you would get scammed by a detective, it happens all the time Sherlock. Haven't you read that or heard that from someone that knows someone who got ripped off by an FSU detective.
Good luck with your lady. She'll need it. Did you do a background investigation on her yet.
No background check necessary, I meet her folks today.She lives with her parents.
Many detective agencies do scam but there a couple of good ones, headquarted not in the FSU, they contract FSU P.I's to do there work,no names here.
FSU women are high risk business. When your talking a cost of 8 grand per trip there from Oz, to spend a few hundred on a investigation before travel is well worth it and also having a back up plan too..arrange to meet more than one woman.
At least I was decent to my former Krivoy Rog woman, I never accussed her personally of being a scammer but broke of contact saying I felt we were incompatable and she was too young for me. She got something out of it, a nice professional darts set which she could not afford and was not available in K.R from me and I got a lesson which bought me to the decision, not to pursue or look at FSU girls anymore..there were 2 winners here.
Some of you guys talk to me like I was an ass hole.
No wonder most men will not post there experiences of being scammed or hurt by FSU women ( or other foreign women) in the forum for fear of being ridiculed or maligned here.
Most guys will keep quiet and lick there wounds and count the cost of there mistakes...I have moved on from this business..its not for everybody!
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