zeeco
your observations about employment of ethnics in uk is certainly correct.It has always been a mystery to me and many others how a racist organiztion such as the uk black police force is allowed to exist and with other associations such as black firemans assoc and a multitude of other similar anti white witch hunters . No wonder white people feel resentful.
Zeeco, yes we do, they use the words affirmative action, or as I call it reverse discrimination. I've had it happen to me when I got out of the Navy and I wanted to be a state trooper since I was a child. I was told by a man of color and these were his words, that I wasn't a spook, spic or split tail, in this great movement, not matter how I would like to hire you, I have quota's to meet first. Interesting no matter how qualified, or who recommended you. Color and Sex came first in the early 80's and is still driven today. We have our two great poverty pimps and Race hustlers in Jesse Jackson and Rev. Al Sharpton. I'm still wondering why they call him a reverend ship he never graduated from any school of clergy, must have got it mail order.
Martin you call people a racist because of a statment. Words don't make people a racist actions do. It's a bantered about word to cut someone down, to make them feel helpless the buzz word of the millenium. Just in your statement, I have my own views on immigration, alone lets what's wrong continue on. You have disagreements with certain people coming in your country, but are afraid to say it because it may label you a racist. That's exaclty what the intent of that word was meant to do. Just like radical Islam. People are afraid to call it what it is for fear of being labeled a racist. What hogwash. Orianna Fallacia hit it on the head. They have created a fear that will eventually destroy our western culture. If you read Al Qaeda's talking points you will notice they copy pretty much the democratic party posture in America. That's really scary.
For years TB in the states was like Polio until the invasion from the south. I don't have problems with Mexicans coming here, as long as they are legal. It sends my wife insane when she watches the Russian News channel here in the states and hears how they want to make them legal without doing what she had to do. Let alone the ability for the Islamic idiots to team up with Mexican Drug runners and Coyotes to smuggle in to the states weapons and personnel to create havoc. Life has very little value in Mexico when it comes to the almighty buck. I personally refuse to be afraid of the word racist. It's just a word it's not me personally. Though I believe laws should be enforced and this is where our New World Order government has failed us.
If you do not mind, I wish to stop this issue, which is not going to bring this group closer. Color is not one in US not in England or any other leader country. The law should be inforce, unfortanetaly if one has the money can buy it anywhere. In US a million dollar in the bank plus bussines gives you a green card and a citizenship five years later, yet those immigrantant workes with children US born can be deported at once. But that is life, this forum has only a few active members and seems that we can not handle one opinions with out accepting his and just giving back a one point answer. Let's all agree than some of us show a racis inclination, that is not harmful and that we all accept. We also should accept that after all we just wish a life time companion for a country that is different than ours. And we wish she feels accepted. I am hispanic, dark skin, came to US for education, my father was an auditor and send us to school. I meet guys from all latin america and the whiter did not like the ones with indian background, stupid remark that still an issue in latin america, that is why we still so behind.
Let's move on and accept what we think and learn to accept who we are.!
Om, if only life were that simple, but the problem we have in England is that there are so many legal and illegal immigrants that our schools hospitals and other services cannot cope, and once someone comes to Britain, even if they are illegal, they are NEVER deported.
England can fit into Russia 136 times, but we only have a third of the population!
That's illegal immigrant workers with anchor babys can and should be deported. OM what you miss and many liberals is my country miss. Is they came here illegally. You violated a law to come to this country and you should not have any rights whatsoever. Using a newborn for status to remain in the states is ridiculous. They should be deported and if and when that child wants to come back to states he can. My daughter was born in Switzerland and has Swiss status, but she never once wanted to go back to Switzerland. You're argument fails. They use the children to remain here and attain legal status.
I don't care if you have a million dollars and a business or are a poor worker as long as you come here legally like my wife did. See you are using class warfare to divide the issue. Always against people with money as if being wealthy is evil.
Nas We have the same in the UK, Poorer people think the wealthy and high achievers should pay a higher percentage of tax (they do) I argue that the poor should be taxed more, to give them more impetus to push themselves for better work, but instead lazy people who achieve very little expect the go getters to subsidise them.
I will say one thing for the millions of immigrants who are in the UK, the Majority do work very hard.
I see so the rich can come legally and the poor who comes illegally to work should be deported. When that happens I hope you are doing more than six figures, cause all will go up. They are to bottom line workforce. Welfare is for those with no jobs, they work the body everyday.
My brother was in the airfoce he is a computer ingenier, he remember all those kids hispanics, and philipinos or orientals, serving the country with parents immigrants, you should know that better you where in the navy, my brother left after the desert storm war, because he was suppose to move to special forces and coordinate with the navy seals, and he felt it was time to go back to his family. My brother son of non-immigrant, Guatemala born. We were sent to US for education, he is a Univ of Miami grad and I am a Yale Univ. grad.
This country is a pyramid an exemplary place, I do charity eveyweek, I was trained with Jews, I am Catholic a mix of Spanish, Natives and German, moreover I am a free man, like you, and I wish the whole world one day will be free as well.
I respect your opinion, I am republican, living in Texas, God Bless America.
Nasfan6
I made a mistake by brother was at the Navy, he was involve in planes and choopers and thanks nothing with airforce.
I wish not to disturb you just trying to tell you my opinion, I try to help people everyday american and immigrants, no shame to say it.
My remarks are just my opinion and do not pretend to convince anyone. Should everyone keep enjoying freedom.
Did you ever go to Cuba, or to Latin America, would you blame them for trying to find a job, moreover, do you blame them for trying to be free like you and I. I have seen the people having a piece of bread and water for the whole day, today the cut your straberries and the fresh apples you and I enjoy. They clean your office and your car. They cut the grass and serve as maids in homes. I have a made who takes take off all the house we, before I separated got her a green card, her sister stay with my family and she with me. We pay their taxes. Yet, they get nothing back, too young and too much to qualify for medicaid.
nasfan6 I will accept you opinion and I will not send you an argument.
xtc11
In Britain the masses that come from Poland are accecptable and generally speaking will not cause us any real problems because they come from a christian background. Pakistanis are a different matter though because are driven by the aggresive tendencies of Islam. Britain does not need these type of people. Pakistanis should be sent home to their Islamic homelands.
9davo, you really show your ignorance in your posts, only a very minute proportion of Muslims from any back ground are radical, you cannot single out Pakistanis, the problem is in the foolishly open and useless border controls we have in the UK, and the political left pandering to the extremists, every mosque in the UK should have an official to monitor it's agenda.
agreed. Also,what the British labour party and the conservatives have forgotten now in their desire to get the muslim vote is this: - The labour and Tories parties were founded and started by the ordinary WHITE natives here NOT MUSLIMS.They have taken our votes for granted. Type in the words "conservative muslim association" into google that reveals how desperate they have become.
The good thing about russia and ukraine is they have Not allowed themselves to be influenced and controlled by muslim pressure groups.Sensible people.
Apal, First find a woman and then come back and talk about it. Instead of your idiotic diatribe you usually post here. You're a self centered idiot or a ten year old playing with a keyboard. Personally if you want to make reference to my wife, why don't you do it personally. I live in the states and if you would like to discuss how she lowered her standards I would gladly oblige you in this.
The topic is idiotic because you can't understand it. That is how most reference a subject when they have no understanding. Just like the plane that took off with 5 or 6 nukes, that whole situation went over the heads of people like you. One you're too busy primping and not educating yourself, one day this will come back to haunt you. Guys like me have been standing watch most of our adult lives, because guys like you don't have the capacity to understand anything except how big a house they have and what kind of car I drive and how many Armani suits they have in their closet. In other words you're as shallow as a human can get.
It seems like cowards like you and Aussieman, have to make slanderous comments about my wife because you can hide behind your keyboards. I know without a doubt you would never say it to my face.
Nasfan.....guess you are against reverse dicrimination. I don't know how many times it has happened to you, hopefully only once but how would you like to be in the shoes of someone it happens to( discriminmation) your whole life???
Maybe you can view it a little differently. It has happened to me many times that I know and who knows how many other times that I don't know. I try to be as understanding as possible because I know everyone is affected differently. I do think the current affirmative action it is too extreme, it would be better if people take more responsibility.. Not really into politics..leave that for others.
Beemer I'm against discrimination in any form. I grew up during the sixties and saw what damage the counter culture did. Now the new leaders are spinoffs from this counter culture. I have friends of different races and cultures. I know that this discrimination has been used against me more than once. Though the eye opener was in 1981. I've found away around it and not made it a platform for my life. With that being said, it does not make me a racist or discriminatory if I don't want illegals of any race in our country.A coworker of mine knows that it exists in all walks for life but she hasn't let that bother her. These days everyone can have their day in court if they feel they were discriminated against. So the use of quota's are not necessary.
One great quote that came out of the sixties and which it should be, "Is don't judge me by the color of my skin, but the content of my character." I don't think King would even agree with quota's.
xtc11 i think you are referring to the "conservative muslim forum" i am well aware of them .
Basically they are a load of Jew hating ,israel hating , white hating yobs within the conservative party though the labour party have an equally repulsive ethnic anti white organization within their ranks.They allow them because they want their ethnic votes.
Drkop I have spoken to quite a lot of the young ladies at the universities in Kharkov and Dneprepetrovsk when i visted in 2005 and 2006 and i got to know many of them quite well. These ladies do not like Muslim men, and there are a number of muslim men that come over to train and learn their speciality subject especially in Kharkov at the university.
There are rare reports of ukranian ladies driven by the money factor, marrying rich muslims and going back with their rich muslim husband to UAE, Bahrain or saudi and the marriages have lasted about 2 years. Then the BIG problems arose when the ukranian woman gave birth to their child but she refused to convert to islam.
Without going into long infinite detail here-the end conclusion is, she is the victim of brutal violence at the hands of her muslim husbands family. she flees home to ukraine , and she never sees the child again.
brad
This can happen with any white woman anywhere not just in ukraine.If her ambitions are monetary and the man she has targeted has a lot of it then of course in her desperation to get out of the pit of poverty she may lower her standards and go with an islamic man .This happens in england not just ukraine. Remember that a few desperate white sluts can be found any place.