You made a comment in this thread earlier about financial support for the ladies. This is something that you do not read on the sites but I have heard it before that in Ukrainian custom the man assumes responsibility for financial support for the lady at engagement. Actually there I understand is not much engagement period for couples so it begins when they are an official couple. Could you or one of the ladies give an overview of how it works with Ukrainian men and an idea what would be expected from the lady involved in a foreign relationship.
Thank you
being new to this forum and the kind of attiude i am receiving as I am not yet a full memeber of the CLAN I guess I am talking to myself...hmmm Americans left England for persecution did they not, or did I read the declaration wrongly....think about it. Maybe you have gone a little overboard. I ahve bursts of energy sometimes and need to exhale:-))
Land of oz,
There is, to the best of my knowledge, no hard and fast rule regarding financial support, you say when they become officially a couple, well that is when they become boyfriend and girlfriend, when they have actually decided to have a relationship yet with no long-term nor formal commitment to each other at that time.
Branded cosmetics in Ukraine cost circa $40-50 per item, a lady might earn $300 a month thus it doesn't take Einstein to figure that for a lady to wear branded cosmetics and designer clothes then there is more than likely a man supporting her.
Of course many Ukrainian men cannot afford such support, my brother-in-law being a prime example, thus these guys are not likely to get the pick of the crop. Any western guy that wants to entice a lady away from a country such as Ukraine needs to realise that he needs to give her reason(s) to go for a western guy rather than a local guy and if he's not ready to financially support then he may as well stay at home.
But there is no hard and fast rule, it's for each guy to decide for himself, perhaps the lady may ask or not ask but any of her friends with western guys will probably be supported and a lack of support may make her feel inferior and may lead her to question her relationship.
can't understand why you have to attack people on this forum??? Perhaps someone could enlighten me. Its about experiences and sharing them not attacking those who try to help. Pity.
"Americans left England for persecution did they not"
No they didn't, it were some English who left England. Maybe exhale first before spreading some untruths the next time ;-)