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	Create New Topic   My Posts   My forum buddies   Invite friends   Private messages Russian brides > Main Forum > The Taste of Defeat! Author Post Grapester Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/22/2007 9:16:40 PM   Why do any of you guys PAY these girls??? Sure, you take them out, wine n' dine. Maybe buy SMALL tokens every so often. If the girl is disappointed you won't give her $600 a week for her ailing auntie you should leave her. Know when to NO. Nothing you spend will keep a woman. If she doesn't have actual, personal interest, move on. Don't be desperate enough to fork over cash. Deano Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/22/2007 9:28:35 PM   Mug did you really stay in Ukraine for 8 months straight? Wow! If so you must have many stories to tell us. Please do! Love to hear first hand accounts of life in Ukraine for a foreigner. What city did you live in? anothermug Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/23/2007 1:03:38 AM   Grapester, I agree with you yet this attitude has cost me my relationship with a genuine woman. She expected money from me even though she works 7 days a week and makes lots more money than she needs. Her idea is, or rather was, that I should pay her so she can have a day off. She never warned me in advance about her attitude to this, or even hinted any displeasure - instead it was goodbye, the normal way for Ukrainian women to discuss issues in a relationship. She was in tears where I was dry eyed. I have had so much deceit and lies here, including from some western friends, that nothing upsets me any more. Except maybe being attacked by gigantic uncontrolled dogs. That has happened twice in a few months. I will be glad to leave a lot of things behind me - such as the piles of rubbish strewn on the beaches, forests etc. The rudeness in restaurants. People laughing at me out loud at my bad Russian, or my use of my native English - they are like children and do not have Western manners. This is a provinvial city where English speakers are rare, this laughing does not happen in Kiev. The slim young painted ladies dressed like Western prostitutes, actually that one I will miss. Short skirts in zero degrees. Many young ones are attractive, but half of that is makeup so watch out. Mostly smoke and mirrors. Haughty, selfish and arrogant. I also advocate being cautious about falling in love with a young hot one, or perhaps any woman. That is when the madness sets in and wallet fever surely follows. Also, the money offered is never enough. I doubt that that girl said “thanks” for the $600, or the trip, or the scuba diving, quadricycle ride, bus tours, shopping sprees, restaurant meals. She probably implied or hinted, or even yelled, that $600 is not enough. Been there, done that. That is why I have had so little success this year - by not forking over cash, the women here lose interest quickly. I posted some of my stories - especially that women on Elena’s Models in Kiev are very often pro daters. I say - if I must pay cash in any case - then I want a hottie. OM Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/23/2007 8:24:48 AM   Woa Anothermug The last paragraph is like you are telling a tale of my trip. Exactly like that. She said thank you, and "Thank you honey" which sound not too real. She is a hot ladie, but I do not need to travel to Ukraine to get a hot ladie. I had a great time and a great vacation. But now comming down to earth and after the passion is over and the brain takes over I know she is after my wallet. My fault for not recognized it. Sad to say I think that is now the rule, most of the ladies now that the mature man looking for a woman, and traveling from US can provide and will try to get all they can. A friend of my had a lady all he wish and he started to support her, some how he felt uncomfortable and a private investigator found she has a boyfriend. He did not want to believe so went to Kherson. You know the rest. Well I am glad to read the forum and I am learning, the girl I met she is lovely and pleasent, I am not sure if I will not take her again for another trip, she gave me the ride of my life. Safe sex is the most important part, she was willing to have not condom and I wonder if that is common, I will not unshield. OM Badpenny Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/23/2007 6:00:48 PM   OM, It's simple, she wanted your donation in her "purse" for a child!!! I can't pass this one up, reminds of Tom's campaign about American Women.... http://www.nctimes.com/articles/2005/12/29/entertainment/radi o/14_50_0812_28_05.txt By: RANDY DOTINGA - For the North County Times What's a good word to describe Tom Leykis, the L.A.-based shock jock now heard weekdays on San Diego's 103.7 Free FM? Here are a few hints: * He spends every day encouraging men to protect themselves from predatory, money-hungry and manipulative women. He likes to observe ---- as he did Friday after a caller complained about his ex's financial habits ---- --------------------that a vagina is shaped like a purse. GeminiDreams Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/24/2007 10:56:37 AM   Thats why they call it the furry wallet! When you have no money just open the furry wallet for payment. Badpenny Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/24/2007 9:15:02 PM   Unfortunately, the problem is when the deposit cannot be withdrawn and you "tie up" your deposit for 18 years! GeminiDreams Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/24/2007 10:09:47 PM   These days the piggy bank has usually been raided long before 18 years is up. anothermug Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/25/2007 1:53:22 AM   Badpenny, I found that Leykis guys 101 Tenets. He is right on the money. If I walked away every time a Ukrainian woman answered her mobile phone on a date, I would have had no dates left after the first 20 minutes or so. This even included one Kiev woman who said she loved me and was sleeping with me. She answered her phone while we were at a restaurant and spoke to a Canadian guy in English for a couple of minutes. Then she told me what a nuisance he was. Yea, right. Why answer the phone in front of me then? She was following her tenets - showing me I was “Easily Replaceable”. Yep, that is a Leykis trick too. Other great tips of his - have a big meal before your date, then order something small. Don’t approach girls in groups etc. Any guy that follows all of Tom’s tenets will be lonely very quickly, unless he is both young and good looking. But the principles are very sound. Even for a man seeking a wife these principle are useful to bear in mind. Be a jerk, a bastard, and get laid. Nice guys don’t get laid, he says. But they do get to change nappies and pick up the tab. Here is the link, and there will be 100 mbytes downloaded in no time, so watch this if you have a limit on downloads. Most links have a radio sound byte included. http://www.tenetsofleykis.com/ Badpenny Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/25/2007 6:53:23 PM   Hey Mug, Why would you put up with that- some guy from Canada? You can do things differently. Explain that you both would be better off with undivided attention. If I was with someone that answered like that, poof... shes gone. It's simply disrespectful. The procedure I follow is to pull out my phone, set it on the table and shut it off and request she does exactly the same, right then and there, NO Excuses. If not, hasta la vista. Remember, you are spending thousands to be there, so your time is more valuable than hers! The do-not-approach in groups while it sounds reasonable, is unrealistic. Most nice women are in groups, and you have to be able to play the game correctly. I've listened to his show on and off for some time. His ideas were never unique to me, it has actually validated my own thinking I have had for years. I agree with alot of his ideas about how to handle our american culture- money, chidren, single mothers, HER friends, HER relatives, I've experienced alot of the crap first hand he talks about being married for 1/2 my life. He has been divorced 4 times and "had his heart carved out"... as he states. He's rich and famous, but also really overweight and always wears sunglasses. My huge disagreement is the "dump that bitch" stuff mentality. "Kick her to the curb" garbage, is just not the way to deal with human beings. I feel it can be inhuman really. His rules are targeted at his demographic of young men 18-28 range living in the U.S. It's like just any radio show IE: Stern, Carolla, etc. they drone on and on covering the same B.S. day in and day out so it gets old fast. Alot of women cannot face the truth about what he says, the truth hurts. The reality of what people get themselves into (unwanted pregnancy, lopsided arrangements, etc.) is pretty sad to listen to all the mistakes people make. He also gives great advice to young men- telling them to go back to school, get a good education and job, focus on doing things for yourself and not letting women be "Dream-killers"... as they surely can be. He preaches about investing, not spending more money than you earn, saving, etc. Nobody else except maybe Suzie Ormond gives such practical common sense advice on the media. Many listeners call him "Dad" because they themselves were raised by their mothers who were a single parent and have never had a father to kick their a**, like they should have. Your Reply: Your name:   New Registration Password:   Forgot password?   refresh Code:   Russian brides > Main Forum > The Taste of Defeat!
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