I hadn't even started on trying to read your ticket - or trying to find the right train or car. Thank you Land of OZ.
Also - since I was traveling for three weeks (and then some) I had two large suitcases and a cary-on. FORGET-ABOUT-IT trying to carry even a QUARTER that much in third-class or second-class. You had better have a single smallish bag or be a back packer - or be prepared to sleep on top (literally) of your luggage.
Just kind of iritates me when a guy refers to something like this as "Easy Peasy" to an unsuspecting fellow FSU lady seeker in this forum.
Its NOT "Easy Peasy" to ride a Ukrainian train (buy ticket and all) on your own. My Ukrainian lady (when we actually got there - always quite late) was often confused by the goings-on and SHE SPEAKS THE LANGUAGE!
Riding a Ukraine Train is ROMANTIC and FUN when with a lady in First Class - but easy to buy a ticket (with no Russian speaking ability)? Don't BELIEVE IT.
I believe 380665 is a MTC jeans mobile number. if you go to http://lifehomepage.info/mtsu.php which is mts sms page it offers the the 38066 prefix in the free sms drop box. This site seems to come up in Russian but there is an English option on the red bar.
Yes jetmba I would not hesitate to use the train there but even back then I had been through all 90 lessons of Pimsluer three times and most of Rosetta Stone but it was a one time through the guided lessons with Rosseta Stone. Since then I have taken the train tickets apart and translated them so I will know what they say next time.
Jetmba,
you would rather pay 120 Eu. Ok fair enough, I guess we are very different then. I prefer the great satisfaction of completing a challenge AND saving money. If travelling alone, I dont mind what hardships I go through, its all part of the challenge of travelling. Different if you have a lady with you of course as you dont want to look cheap. Prior to travelling it is possible to find out the train numbers and times and then you know exactly what you are looking for when you arrive at the station and which train you want. Booth 42 at Kiev station is the one for tourists to go to and I have found they can be somewhat more helpful than the other bedlam encountered in there.
I guess we are all different in our approaches eh.
The one thing most dont work out with the trains are they generally run overnight and get into the destination about 6 am. If you are staying at a hotel or apartment there is not much chance of booking in before 10 and mostly after 12 unless you pay an extra day. So either you have to find somewhere to hang about idly with your luggage or your girl has somewhere to take you.
Best bet is catch a plane as its isnt much more expensive when you consider all factors! If you are after something alternative then catch the train.
Dont get in trap of agencies.You come to ukaraine and the normal rate for introduction toi girls is 20 dollars per girl.secondly you can put an ad in the newspaper and you will get good response. iam also an expat living for 17 years in ukraine cont me and i will give you much better advice
Another option for the luggage. The train stations usually have a lock up where you can store your luggage for a dollar or two. I have used this when I wanted to check out of my apt at noon but train did not leave until night and when I came in on a train with a lady I met in Russia. We locked her luggage up and she went with me and saw me off at the airport, and spent time in Moscow, then returned to the station got her luggage and boarded the train home.
I am here to tell you carrying two of your suitcases and one of hers through the subways, busses and streets starts to suck after a mile or two.
hello guys, how are you? do you remember me? i just came back from ukraine, i met my girl, she is fantastic, she isn't a scammer, i spent two fantastic weeks with her and i will go in ukraine very soon...... bye peter
Petey, You do just not come back from a trip to Ukraine telling us how 'fantastic' it was and leave it at that!
Pete'o, WE ALL WANT TO KNOW;
HOW HARD DID YOU PUMP HER?
HOW HIGH IS THEIR SEX DRIVE?
WHAT POSITIONS ARE THEY INTO?
ARE THEY SEX GODDESSES?
DO THEY MOUTH IT WELL?
ARE THEY INTO PLAY WITH BOYS?
DID YOU TWO PARTICIPATE IN GROUP SEX?
DO YOU HAVE TO GET THEM DRUNK TO GET IN THE MOOD?
DO THEY MOAN IN SLARV LANGUAGE WHEN IN PLEASURE?
Questions of this nature, WE ALL WANT TO KNOW!
Tell us your experience Pete'o. (Dont leave out ANY details!)
I'm sure that Peter is too much of a gentleman to answer any of the questions you ask. But I understand WHY you ask. Little boys like you realize that telling each other ridiculous stories is the closest you will ever COME to having sex.
Nooga.
You are totally out of your depth in this forum, go back to your reptiles forum then go away and play with your pokemon and have a wank while looking at a photo of Elle McPherson.
When I was a young teenager - I remember bragging to my friends about my first car, the amount of beer I drank and the time I had with the girl I was with.
It was because it was brand new. Neither I nor any of my friends had ever had any experience with these things.
I NEVER brag about my car anymore, or having a drink, or being with a lady. Because the occurances aren't brand new anymore and these things are things we've ALL experienced.
Except nooga.
He still can't believe these things happen for anyone else because they've never happened for him.
As per his PM to me (at the bottom of this post) he declared, on 02 March 2008, that he is going to continue this ¡¥nonsense¡¦ until he proves me to me a liar and/or until I admit the truth.
Well I¡¦ve admitted the truth, that I am 49 years of age, he lied that I was 56 (ish), I have admitted that I did not have pre-marriage affair(s) on my wife, he lied saying that I had, and going back, he claimed that I had/have never traveled to Ukraine, well I have proved him to be a liar regarding that lie of his also. There are other of his lies that I have proved to be lies also but this subject is boring enough anyway so as not to bore the ¡¥more sensible¡¦ forum members any more than is necessary ƒº
So, having admitted the truth, and indeed proved him to be the liar, why does to continue to spam the forum? Well let me tell you, it¡¦s because that he personally has a dislike, a hatred of me, and he is trying to turn ¡¥his¡¦ audience against me, do I give a sh1t? No ƒº
So having admitted the truth what has he proven me to be lying regarding? Has he proven be to be, his claimed 56 (ish) years of age? No! Has to proven that I had pre-marriage affair(s)? No. Has he proven that I have never traveled to Ukraine? No.
And has he proven that I was not married in April 2005? Most certainly not! And, the reason(s) that he keeps on is to prevent himself, in his head up @ss world, of not losing face as if he hasn¡¦t lost face enough already!
What has he managed to prove regarding my marriage of April 2005? Was I in Ukraine at that time? Yes. Was I in my wife¡¦s home city at that time? Yes. Then is it just perhaps remotely feasible that I am telling the truth and I was married during that period? Well I¡¦ve answered that question enough times, whether he chooses to believe it or not I couldn¡¦t really give a sh1t.
Unable to ever prove me to be a liar he appears adamant to continue spamming the forum with ¡¥cheap shots¡¦, insults, copies & pastes from circa 2005 whereas I made 1 genuine mistake and 1 mistake through unawareness. Well to be human is not to be perfect and if I haven¡¦t made a mistake since circa 2005 then I¡¦m not doing too bad am I ƒº
All he¡¦s trying to do is taunt me into losing my cool or to reveal unnecessary details regarding my personal relationship, well I can control my cool, I¡¦m just playing with him, and hell will freeze over before I will divulge unnecessary details regarding my personal relationship particularly on the internet.
So he¡¦s going to continue until he proves me to be a liar, well that¡¦s something that he will never do unless to make a genuine mistake is to lie, so he¡¦s obviously still going to be spamming the forum in a month, a year, 5 years, 10 years etc from now.
I would apologise to the ¡¥more sensible¡¦ forum members that that is not my place, why should I apologise for being married? It is for ¡¥Mr Angry¡¦ to apologise, not me!
Cheers
Martin
nasfan6 Martin_FFC 02.03.2008 20:17:25
I will continue to prove you are the liar that you are until you admit the truth.
Keep spamming it proves you the idiot you are. You brag way to much about your personal life here how others lives are crap. Another order of spam please LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!
As per his PM to me (at the bottom of this post) he declared, on 02 March 2008, that he is going to continue this 'nonsense' until he proves me to me a liar and/or until I admit the truth.
Well I've admitted the truth, that I am 49 years of age, he lied that I was 56 (ish), I have admitted that I did not have pre-marriage affair(s) on my wife, he lied saying that I had, and going back, he claimed that I had/have never travelled to Ukraine, well I have proved him to be a liar regarding that lie of his also. There are other of his lies that I have proved to be lies also but this subject is boring enough anyway so as not to bore the 'more sensible' forum members any more than is necessary :)
So, having admitted the truth, and indeed proved him to be the liar, why does to continue to spam the forum? Well let me tell you, it’s because that he personally has a dislike, a hatred of me, and he is trying to turn 'his' audience against me, do I give a sh1t? No :)
So having admitted the truth what has he proven me to be lying regarding? Has he proven be to be, his claimed 56 (ish) years of age? No! Has he proven that I had pre-marriage affair(s)? No. Has he proven that I have never traveled to Ukraine? No.
And has he proven that I was not married in April 2005? Most certainly not! And, the reason(s) that he keeps on is to prevent himself, in his head up @ss world, of not losing face as if he hasn’t lost face enough already!
What has he managed to prove regarding my marriage of April 2005? Was I in Ukraine at that time? Yes. Was I in my wife’s home city at that time? Yes. Then is it just perhaps remotely feasible that I am telling the truth and I was married during that period? Well I’ve answered that question enough times, whether he chooses to believe it or not I couldn't really give a sh1t.
Unable to ever prove me to be a liar he appears adamant to continue spamming the forum with 'cheap shots', insults, copies & pastes from circa 2005 whereas I made 1 genuine mistake and 1 mistake through unawareness. Well to be human is not to be perfect and if I haven't made a mistake since circa 2005 then I'm not doing too bad am I :)
All he's trying to do is taunt me into losing my cool or to reveal unnecessary details regarding my personal relationship, well I can control my cool, I'm just playing with him, and hell will freeze over before I will divulge unnecessary details regarding my personal relationship particularly on the internet.
So he's going to continue until he proves me to be a liar, well that's something that he will never do unless to make a genuine mistake is to lie, so he's obviously still going to be spamming the forum in a month, a year, 5 years, 10 years etc. from now.
I would apologise to the 'more sensible' forum members that that is not my place, why should I apologise for being married? It is for 'Mr Angry' to apologise, not me!
Cheers
Martin
P.S. And whatever puts him under the impression that I am answerable to him, well it's quite beyond me! I don't even answer to my own mother so I'm buggered if I'm going to answer to him :)
nasfan6 Martin_FFC 02.03.2008 20:17:25
I will continue to prove you are the liar that you are until you admit the truth.
Peter, je suis deja alle deux fois, 120 pour le taxi est une folie, le taxi des l'aeroport Borispol (KIEV) au centre de la Ville m'a cuote environ 200, (Ukraine Money) donc on va voir; 1 euro = 7.5 allors ????????? cher Peter fait beaucoup d'attention dans l'Ukranie, et aussi je pense que l'agence n'est pas tres serieux, esayez de changer. J'ai vecu plusieur d'experiences pas tres agreables mais a las fin ca a ete tres bien, il vaut la peine, aussi je vous suggere de avoir plusieurs options, je suis alle pour conaitre quelqu'une qui avait l'air d'etre parfait et apres 2 jours j'avais envie de partir en courant, j'espere que dans ton cas tout ira bien mais les precausions ne sont jamais restants. pardonnes mon francais je sius pas francais et mon ordinateur non plus :)
take care