What the hell does seeing the Incredible Hulk have to do with Words from a Ukrainian Girl friend. Seems some posters still think they own/monitor the forum for their own tastes and likes. What's good for the Goose is good for the Gander.
Met one movie star,Jim Caviezel when he was here shooting Madison, met many sports figures and Musicians, I still have a picture with Glen Frey and myself at the Troubador in LA. Met Clapton in Chicago, Shot pool with Mark Martin in North Liberty Indiana, Still have pains in my hand from a handshake I got from Walter Payton. Played Golf with Bob Knight at a Ford Outing. Had beers with John Entwhistle, while he was watching Mason Ruffner perform in a Nightclub in New Orleans. Funny thing, My wife didn't know who any of these people were. They only know the idiots from Hollywood that get way to much press for stupidity.
Nasfan......do you actually think any ukrainian girl would be interested in any of the people you mentioned???
Ditto for Martin!!! I do agree the idiots in Hollywood get too much press......but remember, I trying to impress a Ukrainian girl( your wife did say it all).....they love to hear my stories of movie stars....names they have heard of before..these were words from a ukrainian girl!!!
No slipping up, some aren't educated enough to understand. Let alone discuss the subject. This is why some here call a certain country the most hated on the earth. Because we act and don't sit around wringing out hands. Of all the wars the US was involved in, only 3 didn't have a European influence. Plus our total conflicts don't even mirror what has went on in Europe.
So when one says a country was occupied, they should elaborate why, not just make out one as the evil country and why they are hated, but explain how not just one occupied but two then divided them up amongst themselves. While the those who had treaties did nothing.
At least I can look in a mirror with honesty.
Beemer, probably not. Though the perception is that most of America acts that way. Until she got here and took a different impression of the typical American. Not the ones that you hear about on these forums, which at times I wonder how much of that isn't someone grinding an axe. I see two different types of Americans pursuing this. The unmitigated losers(I flew with one to Donetsk) and real honest guys looking for a change. From the career hyped prozac laden, hedonistic greedy woman from the west who doesn't put any value in the family until it comes to divorce court.
Touche Nasfan!!! Does your wife realize americans are different in different parts of the country. I only know where I live and mostly the west. I realize girls I talk to ( in ukraine)picture america as they see it on TV but I do tell them it is not reality...it is such a very small part...I happen to live in an area where anything goes. I visit L A and Hollywood...but would never live there.
Yes Beemer, she does. We traveled quite a bit and we are looking at a West Coast trip here in the near future. She does identify the difference, but she said there is a common thread amongst us. Our work ethic. She never realized how hard most Americans work especially the ones who have their own business, until she found out herself and how we work at ours. Most of all she says we get an unfair shake in Europe, due to the fact they don't know or don't care to know the reality. We are overly friendly she says and we help each other even total strangers where in Europe most would go by and let someone go on their own. Those are not my words but hers.
Did you warn her of culture shock between middle america and left coast, you know we are liberals, always out to fight for another cause. Would it be in California??? If so, if you need ideas I have plenty. Anywhere up and down the coast is a pleasure!! A stop in Vegas is a must....I am in awe at the amount of money those casinos make to be able to put up such expensive hotels, the amount of detail is astonishing, you feel you are in a different land.
Beems I have some ideas, I have friends from the Navy that still live out there from San Diego, one living in the Sticks of Ridgecrest and another Living in Palm Desert. I think the biggest shock for her will be going to Hollywood, I mean the real local. She doesn't realize what it is really like. She has this vision of beautiful homes and the like, I told here it's pretty dumpy and the sign is the best part.
A cruise up 101 will be interesting for her. Nothing really planned just a week of doing and seeing whatever.
Culture shock doesn't bother her anymore, it humors here now. Her first words when we landed in Chicago and seeing the multitude of strange people from all over the world was,"I have truly landed on Mars."
Libs in California, Wow that's a news flash!!LOL! Hey she's been to Chicago The Peoples Republic of Cook County, so it won't be that much of a shock.
If you're in the area when we come, I'll buy you an adult beverage. Also thanks there are probably many things I haven't seen or has changed out there.
Well Los Angeles is like a melting pot of people all over the world. There are areas that have many immigrants from whatever country they came from...Koreans, Chinese, Japanese, Middle East, even russians. There are signs (advertisements) here I have no idea what they say. I do know the Russian ones now. Hollywood Blvd is getting a face lift, so it is not as bad as before but I wouldn't walk the side street's at night too much. During day it is pretty nice. The Kodak Theatre( Academy awards) is very nice inside, newest place is Nokia Theatre by Staples center in Downtown area. Best to go east of there...Bevery Hills..Rodeo drive..that is where she pictured beautiful homes. For active people "The Strand" is popular. Manhatten, Hermosa, Redondo, Newport Beaches!!!! Something foreign to people from the Midwest!!!! We get a lot of runaways from there.
San Diego is nice...my favorite is Santa Barbara, small and quaint...right off the 101!!!!! have fun!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I used to go to Manhattan and Newport beach quite often. A buddy of mine from High School moved out there and was working for Air Canada at the time. This was about 1978 when I first got introduced to 2 man volleyball on the beach before it became a pretty big sport on ESPN. I remember you could fly PSA(People Scattered Allover)folks from San Diego and LA will know what I mean, for 18 dollars one way, so a trip to LA was about twice a month for me.
As foreign, we have dunes in Northern Indiana and lower Michigan and motorcross is extremely popular. The only thing foreign out there for us is we have to buy a dictionary at the airport so we can understand the local lingo LOL! I mean Beems, Jeff Gordon is from California and he didn't learn to speak correctly until he moved to Pittsboro Indiana, now look at him!!
I have been to Belarus and Moldova, Ukraine and Russia and talked with many girls from these countries and I think Moldova and Belarus are the best two. It seemed like most Ukrainian women were after money, Russian women are proud of their country and many of them dont like our president and dont like the U.S. Belarus is the best choice, overall less scammers from there and they don't have the screw over Americans philosophy like many of the Russians and the Ukrainian women have.
Yes Vivi I must admit that I feel ashamed and I did not even write any of it. To judge whole nations by such limited experience is sad. We can expect our governments to spread this kind of propaganda but the common people should be able to live together. Of course each nation has its share of thieves, murderers, and liars but this is usually a small minority of the population.
I hate to even think how our countries would be labeled if we were judged only even by the men entering for romance.
In looking for a women in FSU, I try to see if they are a selfish person wanting me to buy them gifts or they are a giving person. There are two types of people in the world givers or takers. If she is a taker run. I have met many girls from Russia and Ukraine that are takers. They are compulsive shoppers don't know the value of a dollar and don't care to. They base their love on me me me. What can you buy me? Don't get suckered into finding one of these women even if she is hot. When I look for a woman if she is all dressed up and flaunting her body in her pictures that is a big red flag, 9 times out of 10 she will be a gold digger. Find one who knows the value of a dollar and is old fashioned. They are out there.
Well guys here is my update. I went to court today re by divorce proceeding. My wife left after 1.5 years of marriage. She is claiming I abused her and is after every penny I have. Her new attorney was asking for $24K in attorney's fees...the judge awarded him $4K 1/2 of which he lost in sanctions for not giving proper notice. My attorney said his fees were so over the top as to be laughable. He was claiming 8 hours in travel time from Los Angeles to Corona (a distance of about 40 miles round trip.)
Here is a question. Her attorneys are claiming the I-134 I signed states that I have to support her for TEN years but as I recall I just had to guarantee that she would not become a public charge for three years after her entry into the country. Any of you have any knowledge about this?
The judge also terminated her $2000 a month spousal support which I have been paying for 10 months in a 19 month marriage. The restraining order issue will be addressed March 13 as they have to have a Russian speaking interpreter there. Wish me luck!
Attitude to money among Russian and Ukrainian girls is really different. Ukrainian girls encourage there husband to earn more money and live better.
Russian woman usually take most of financial responsibilities for family and kid themselves. That is why they can not afford more then one kid and it is one of the reason why level of living in Russian families is usually lower than Ukrainian.
You yourself need to decide what is better for you.
If you need someone who knows the value of a dollar and is old fashioned.
If you are looking for a FSU woman you are on the WRONG WAY. At least ask and discuss financial questions before you got married. She would expect attitude to her as to equal person. She is all but OLD FASHIONED. She is not as loud as American girl but she is mush more emansiper. Any unequal attitude she will consider as huge abuse.