Actually I'm very perceptive when it comes to what a woman thinks of me and right from the first minute my instincts were telling me that this woman wasnt on the level, but ... I was in a strange environment and in a new situation and so I kind of went with the flow. All in all I had a good fun time and, hell, I may even see her again - at an average £100 a day on designer clothes I consider it quite cheap for a fun travelling-partner/guide-with-benefits, and I can relax and enjoy it knowing thats all its going to be. Still thats not what I'm looking for ultimately.
Actually I doubt she would fool anyone who reads this forum because she fits the pro-dater profile so perfectly: in her 20's, no kids, no steady job indeed has never had one since graduating, yet somehow manages to have thousands of pounds worth of designer clothes and makeup (way beyond the norman "one expensive outfit" which they all seem to have), and has travelled to several west european countries that would require visa sponsorship. Trouble is there arnt really any warning signs in her profile and she comes accross as very serious in her correspondence.
The pattern I have noticed though is that the two pro-daters that I have met have had a particular style of drawing you in emotionaly but in a quite subtle way. The sort of thing I mean is telling you about something they did and how they just felt the need to share it with you, or that they were just doing -whatever- and they thought of you and wished you were there to share it with them. Obviously no scammer would expect to get away with any sort of "i love you" bollocks in this day and age and they are adapting thier aproach to be much more subtle.
Another common theme is how they imagine how "loving and caring" you are based lets face it on pretty scant information.
Let me assume for the sake of argument that you lawfully accessed the emails and may continue to do so...
The easiest thing to do would be to accidentally send copies of her emails to all her boyfriends to each other, including yourself. Make it look like a virus or worm attack.
Then you can send a reply with innocent outrage to all informing them that you have been intimately involved with this woman and asking if anyone else has gotten a STD from her.
I think they might take that seriously, especially if you have photos and emails from her to back up your story.
OK I was keeping an eye on her activity and all of a sudden her antipodian suitor (lets call him "punter A") books a holiday for them both at a cost in excess of $15,000 !!. So I realise I have to act soon. So I arrange a tactical email foward to one of her other regular boyfriends ("punter B") in the hope that punter B will make contact with punter A and compare notes. Sure enough punter B contacts punter A and punter A sends outraged email to scammer including a copy of punter A's conclusion that she is a greedy scammer detailing how he parted with several thousands of dollars in shopping alone. So far so good. However: after some more time has elapsed punter A sends another message saying how he still loves her and doesnt care how many men she has been dating... well as they say you can lead a horse to water ...
Bassuk...I still think nothing should have been done. End result is same. Some guys just do not think. Why try to help someone when they cannot help themselves. Some people deserve what they get and your 'punter A' is prime example. I am sure anyone writing to this girl will eventually see warning signs, you did, others disregard anyone saying different. Thanks for update!!
Well actually I'm finding it very interesting and its a real eye opener to see an all out scammer in operation, very sobering indeed, and in all fairness I'm out for a bit of revenge - I've spent £4000 odd visiting this woman and buying stuff for her.
The thing is this woman is not just a relatively harmless pro dater (as I originally thought), somone after a few nice holidays and clothes, were talking about a full blown extortionist - I've now found out that her "relationship" to punter B dates back some 6 months, that he has been regularly sending her money, even paying her rent - hence he was none too pleased to find out that she is jetting off for weeks at a time with other men.
god man got awful drunk lol hmm started on straight vodka and then on brandys ,i enjoy ukranian wine the best though,,,
She never berated me over this but I told her I didnt like it getting drunk does nothing for me and she said well just be aware of it in the future.Great wedding i have to say id much prefer it to weddings here nice little traditions ,,,they steal her away from me for a while etc and my best man has to drink a glass of champagane from her shoe etc
The next day we all went back for dinner in the hotel and the smart ass barman said to me in Russian vodka and he laughed haha Ukranians got a good sense of humour lol I told her in Gaelic 'kiss my ass'
My wife has a degree in music and in tourism there is alot of work her in the music teaching business as she can play violion and piano so she just needs to get her degrees sorted in Kiev so they can work over here. I go over in a month and we both travel to Kiev her new passport is currently being issued in my name and we go to the embassy there and 10 days later back here together. My best friend is going with me and her best friend too and they will spend time together with us so will be great fun.
Currently shes workins 10 hour shifts each day with just sunday off I told her look Ill support you no need to back there but shed have none of it I left her some money before i went as well and she refused to take it. Im just hoping it all works out over here and she settles in but it would be great if our best friends get together pernamently too would be alot easier.Id say its about 99 percent gonna happen!
My friends and family have all said they will help to make it work here for her which made me very happy...
Maybe when i head over to Russia you and I could hookup would be fun..
yea..........Danny, you are so smart. You have no idea how old I am, you just make assumptions based on posts you cannot even read properly. I was having some fun on you and you went along like a lost soul......not only do you hate americans, you hate asians, aussies,jet, martin, beemer......hell lets make this list shorter europe, africa,south america..half the earth, martians....anyone that crosses your path..where does this stop... notice one thing...as you get older the list gets longer.
Well Danny has shown his true intellectual capacity by citing Letterman and Dr. Phil. Two tops on my list!(yeah right) It seems lately that only morons buffoons and simpletons have invaded this forum. If I was you Danny I would have left my Avatar blank.
I would love to make book on a spelling contest between Danny, Monada and Quasimodo
Right now I'm giving 9:5 on Monada, just based on the fact that english supposedly isn't her first language. Please email your bets to moelarryCurly@hotmail.com. I take plastic and paypal for bets. Also there is a 10% vig on the book.
Americans are okay I have alot of family there while in the Ukraine I met a group of 10 who had travelled to work in some orphanages in Uzghorod and told me how bad the conditions were you gotta have respect for people like that they dont come from every country! They might be bible bashers but I can live with that lol
beemer,
He's probably just jealous of those more educated than he is. That covers most of the planet's occupants!
I'll tell you what, if I was as thick as he is then I would be embarrassed and keep quiet, it's water off a duck's back to him, to him illiteracy is acceptable.
Colin 95% of the people you meet are usually pretty decent, it's the 5% assholes that ruin it for the rest.
Good ones want to leave the US? Really please share your acumen on this subject
dunce3777. All the treehuggers and socialists can leave for all I care. So to you
with limited intellect is where you fall under.
Here bite on this one. I'll even give it you with multiple choice. Danny boy.
What caused the dinosaurs to disappear?
A: Ford Motor Company and their SUV's
B: Al Gore by inventing the internet
C: US refusal of Kyoto treaty
D: Martians
E: Adam and Eve
What's the point of putting a picture up? This forum went on for years without it.