ok, my dear. could not even think that you may think what you talk about.
all I want from you, boy - is to be on line of topic. if you have smth to tell.
and
don't take my comments deep to heart. relax. I never wanted to annoy you.
wish you well on battle fields with tribe of Ukrainian amazons.
Unfortunately what Mike'n'Maser wrote is a sad reality of post sovietic culture...
I could write a lot of how is to be a young woman here, always in battle for survival, suddenly turning back and realizing that behind is emptiness....: no one, no mother, no father, no brother, no single relative... they are, but they are fake as those girls-ghosts on websites... appearance and nothing inside, except of desive to get money out of you. Stupid men-idiots blaming that you aren't able to live by holy spirit, born and grow kids who want to eat, study, toys, schools... really? it's lie, kids grow by themself, feeding from sunrays. hay on top, do you know how many times woman in FSU hear those wonderful compliments "slut", "bitch" and many other, in comparing those two sounds like a delicious music.
so, guys. if you find yourself in hard situation, don't think that you are lonely of this kind.
I am not sure if the last two posts are mine or Beemers but your posts do not annoy me Monada. I enjoy them and your daughter has good taste in cartoons. Although quite an old movie it was shot in my home state of Kansas and we have to be proud of our heritage. I have also enjoyed the Ukrainian amazon battlefield.
But getting back to the inlaws they are part of the package and have to be dealt with if you are going to have a life with the lady. Whether they are fake and empty they are still part of the family. If you told them straight out about your financial situation which is none of their business that is fine. You do not need to apologize or explain excuses. All you need to do is say no. It may be better to allow your wife to handle this communication but at any rate if you are honest with them and they will not accept it then there is no other way to get custody of the daughter than to fight. It will be a sour victory but necessary to retain her daughter. If she owns her flat then this will be a fight also to keep the x and family from claiming a share of it.
And I assume Monada you are seeing some of the same battle from your x. Is that correct?
Yes maser you look at the big picture hear mate ay , did somebody refer to hooking up with an arab ( thats like hooking up with a dog with rabies ! i was 3 short times in dubai ( another pretentious land ) women are bought and sold for 2 dime's .
I dont know mate i read monalda's posts she makes good sence , the russian's il wake up one day but as always they will have missed the boat ( all the good Aussies, usa. pommies/ kiwi's / canadians will have flown the coup out of russia ) sick of being scammed and they'l be left with the shit 20 cent races arab's turkss iranians , iraq, all those shit muslim races just love to come home give the woman a lovely beating for her making the meal .
The russian men my god who in there right mind would want 1 i have worked with 6 hear in Aussie in a govvy office they sit around all day dribble shit in russian try and work out how they can scam somebody in the office .
Now iam not much good at speaking russian BUT i can understand it all , i let em know i understood the lingo --------well the look on the faces was worth a million bux , all crooks can't help emselves .
Didnt the place go quiet after that, i could organise em the sack i made that clear , all nice as pie ever since = idiots 2 cent dreamers .
Cant see future just what they can wrought on monday - tuesday is never seen , most russian women same thing .
MONALDO The russian families should be on bended knee when a nice western guy comes to make daughters life pretty yes ! no apprieciation yes ! no forward thinking of her welfare just there own greed . very sad really .
Strangely enough most Russian women in Australia are very well behaved our laws to tough if they fuck up they are out ---------they know it too .
Maser dont bring her to this politicaly correct shithole mate only make a rod for your back ive been there done that it dosent work you know only if she has nobody left in russia or she will want 3 trips a year home to mummy that'l cost you 12k , live there mate just find the safest place you can .
Id not bring another one to Australia if i won the 20 million $ lotto - i know the result and money wont fix it .
50% JUST DONT LIKE OUR WAYS ( CANT BLAME EM ON THAT POINT - I HATE WESTERN WAYS TO ) FULLU DO- WELLS THE WORKPLACE HEAR IAM SURE THEY ALL CONTRACTED TO WILTSHIRE STAYSHARP KNIFE FACTORY BECAUSE YOU GETS LOTS IN YOUR BACK AY .
WEAK AS WATER HEAR MATE ONLY A FEW THE 50'S STYLE BRONZED AUSSIES LEFT YOU KNOW - THE ONES THAT MAKE THERE OWN JUSTICE AS THEY GO ( MY TYPE PEOPLE ).
Australias a shithole yet 15 years back id never dream saying that i done my 3 years service in our army i'd have died for the place in the 70's but not now ay last one with any brains out of this joint turns off the lights .
I'd still much rather live Russia ukraine as in preference to any western country , i'd rather go belly to belly with a mafia dood than entertain the do- wells hear .
no adventure in this dump - you cant live on the edge ! whats the good of that ? iam in western australia big sandpit fullu coons ! great ay = dump !
All the bleeding hearts you know the dickheads .
MONALDA TELL ME WHY WOULD ANY SELF RESPECTING RUSSIAN WOMAN GO WITH A RUSSIAN MAN I AGREE WITH AS YOU SAY DEAD FLIES IN THE STREET SO WHY WOULD ANYBODY WANT THEM !
Tell you something the first girl i was in st peter's years ago ( she dead now ) she absolutely hated the living site of russian men , she would not even talk to them after 30 months with her , i knew why from A to Z , DONT OTHER GIRLS KNOW THIS ?
She was the best girl id ever met in my life if the family was in shit she'd speak to them you got yourself in - get yourself out and dont expect my man to save your arss .
good women yes !
i never had 1 moments argue with her , never asked for money , never scammed , her girlfriends respected me - i can't honestly say i seen 1 thing wrong with her ! i wish i still had her , but she was country girl raised in a village near kazan ,
she had no interest fancy shit cars / mobiles / pc's no way none of interested her she was a rare one -happy as was !
Amazing i left her in charge my accounts in year 2001 $37,000 in bank i went away working 2 weeks in AMSTERDAM when i returned she had done some of my work and put 900 rubles into the bank on top of the 37.000 .
hey she had the cards could have taken the lot but - no way would she do it .
so how rare is it find a woma n like that in Russia !
i think 1 in 7000 maybe rest are idiots cant see a future .
very sad - they are missing the boat in life ,
Masers problem in ukraine huh if it were me i would just turn gangster on family read the WAY TO THEM hold an iron bar in your hand tell em if they dont comply you will wrap it around there heads .
they'd all shit them,selves all talk - plastic gangsters you stand up to em they all turn to water .
Dealing with in-laws is not just a culture problem, there has been a total collapse of moral values and principle of life in most FSU countries, the word honesty, true, lies are twisted to suit circumstances, lot of them can live happily with the knowledge of having causing disruptions, pain and grievance, is not of importance what their action or words will cause, I do understand the struggle that people in the FSU countries have and are going through but that is no justification to take it or take advantage of other humans, especially when individuals (mostly men from west) are genuine in their effort to look for a matching partner and also it is natural for most to help spouse's families eventually, I have seen that with western men behaviour with Asian wife’s, it is so stupid trying to take advantage of someone, for short gains, that eventually will set them and their families for life, I suppose also a problem of short vision. I don't have statistic of FSU people behaviour once the are in the west, but I am sure is not just money that attract them to stay, most of them will discover that in most western countries there is another layer of principles governing the relations between people. The best tactic for a western man in FUS countries is to mind your own business, NEVER disclose your personal financial situation to anyone, and behave with the lady you love the way you would behave no matter what part of the world is If you are going in the FSU countries for personal gratification (otherwise known as sex) than this post is as useful as an ashtray in a motorbike.
my battles with "x"? don't want to talk about. he would be happy and does all to ruin my small but still achievements. how you imagine that one day woman can realize that WITHOUT her husband she is able to give MORE to her child? I could never understand how it could be, but this true. and "more" means nothing but normal food, cloths, kindergarden, toys and... happiness.
onalda you are good woman realisatic you know whats what i tell you something my last girl iam not a poor man ok .
I said to her ok my rules in life simple and iam very good hearted i look after woman as princess i have huge respect . she never have to want for anything in her life . i was with her 15 months but the lies from her mouth like water ( dont they know when you have a good guy you do the right thing ) what is so hard about that .
My rules are simple with and woman russian / ukraine ok
With me you are not allowed to know any other single man
with me you do not lie = ever to me or anybody else
with me you see me only you look after me 24 hours a day as i do you .
with me you can have your girlfriends i dont care ! but they must be in carachter as clean as driven snow = angels or they DO NOT ENTER MY APARTMENT DOOR .
WITH ME you will always answer phone and nothing in your life you place before me in any way or form .
with me you will throw 50% of russian ways iam Aussie i live as such but il meet you 1/2 way live 50/ 50 russian /australian
with me you will speak me all your past same as me too you
with me do NOT expect me to help family i will do 1 time a year only , for them if they need help and i can justify it .
this is out the ordinary my culture we dont got out of our way to help sponging relatives whom wont rise from there arss to try get ahead .
with me Dont bring me problems others broke all needing help i wont do it ! iam not responsible for there situation so i dont have to correct it
with me you will never even think to decieve ok - your job is as mine to care for look after each other not less not more .
with me you wont try turn me into russian if i want to be that i will do that gradually myself = fair enough .
with your ex husband if it even approaches our lives without a life or death reason i will beat it to a pulp ( i do not trust russian men so why upset me and bring any near to me ) you wont ever do it and if you do you be guest of the park bench because to me you have done what ive asked you not to do - i wont tollerate it .
with me i dont tollerate deciet or things that you cant account for in your life = arguments and arguments iam not interested in .
Special point i told her do NOT PLAN HANG AROUND RELATIVES 65 TIMES A YEAR i won't let it happen i live MY CULTURE but iam there for you = please yourself thems the rules and they are not hard rules to follow i believe i ask very very little in life .
SHe knew without me she had huge percentage of nothing ,
Now you would think a woman if loves would happy say yes darling to all that
guess what she did say yes ok dear to everything - then took off with an addict with money she'd stolen from me went on a drug binge for 3 weeks and she was 7 months pregnant hey i ask you MONALDA how smart are these women? very very stupid .
I may be throwing myself open hear on this forum and il never discuss my personal financial situation again on hear after today ( and sorry guys whan i say not its not allowed to be commented on in reply to this post ok . i make the rules just for today .
Listen carefully MONALDO HERE IS WHAT I OFFERED THIS WOMAN FOR LIFE and ive got all papers i could show you .
I offered 1/2 my trade business err so what i have 5 incomes to put it to her name 1/2 of it fetch her $63,000 a year for doing nothing .
I get royaties DVD productions on history $4000 a year per production in royalties alone i said there you go darling you can have half that too il never spend it ( but i dont expect you to either )
I have a condo in RAYONG thailand we went 3 times holidays there its a big one its worth a big $$$ . happy share my life with that too .
I have contracts with russia work Moscow state university and the museum circuits iam historian ho hum another 96k a year income.
I do valueing art works etc you can find my name on wall Hermitage museum st peters ,
more $$$ plenty ,
ok i dont socialise / go out much / drink etc ive no habits iam just a money machine but its like 120 hours a week so nobody gives it too me free .
i GO SHOPPING with her like i give her 3k buy clothes but i dont expect myself to be seen as ATM i give when i feel like giving if you have a guy like that common sence tells you that you do NOT ROCK THE BOAT you just say yes dear and go with the flow .
So for my total income of around 340.000 rubles a month - if a woman wants to live that style she does as told , but this woman small mentality steal 500 rubles out of your shirt pocket when you put your clothes in the washing machine and you forget about the 500 ruble note .
so anyway ive kissed it goodbye now ( she too dumb i could not even make her rich you know - how stupid was she ) she can go back to the shithouse she grew up in , i said to her your too stupid gutter mentality no woman with me can ever not abide by those rules or tell me a lie or steal from me - to stay in between my silk $400 sheets she with do as told or go back to ghettos how silly are these women .
in theory i can have anybody i want -iam 50 but if she is a day over 34 does not appear the pritiest woman in russia then she wont be with me .
I dont go out with old dragons 4 times married 5 kids hey iam NOT AFTER A FAMILY !
I like a bit of jet set life and 90% time i can afford it - but you DONT EXPLOIT IT YOU RESPECT IT AND THANK YOUR LUCKY STARS YOUR WITH ME and not a russian beggar or a two bob tourist saves up $8000 in a year goes to russia and gets robbed IAM NOT A TOURIST I WORK THERE = BIG DIFFERENCE ! but you will respect that hey because guess what I dont have to be there --IAM DOING YOU A HUGE FAVOUR
I DONT KNOW ABOUT THAT DEAR from what ive seen they are much of a muchness the ukraine women are a bit more ''ohh spoil me forever '' i deserve it type of attitude and they tend to throw tantrums which in fact end up driving a man crazy .
Whereas the russian woman will sit with family and work out for months the most elaborate plot ever hatched just to steal $500 from a man ( why do they bother ) .
the russian woman ive found can be a far more methodical lier and ive very little experience with ukraine women so i can only forcast what ive been told on that point .
Personaly i think a womans very brave coming on a forum as this - i take my hat off to them.
Masser yes you are dead right in all you say --maybe with exception the sex bit - mate be me worth 1 million or 1 ruble i would NOT ever team up again with a woman from FSU unless she was staying with me in all ways sex too from hour of 1 no sorry no excuse for that.
Your not going to go 23,000 ks round trip from my country to sit in some slimy hotel on your own first night or 31st night ---no woman will do that to me - no way thats just beyond rude .
You can live in my section of australia and we have so so many german girls coming hear its become a joke all looking for men - it got so bad in 1 city the govvy built a hostel for them its a plague you see .
I can drive 28ks and come home with the most georgous blonde german anytime and yes they do have the good manners to stay with you from day 1 - they are interested in a future not so much money but they want marriage and i DONT so iam not going to lead poor bird on with false promises - thats not right is it .
why do that to a bird ??? i know what i want and need! and its not Marriage it never will be--- sorry my door on that idea, closed with the last decietfull russian .
They are far more respectfull than the russians and they dont have the truck load of jealousy totally different i do know know a couple guys hear married a couple they dont seem to have ANY GRIEF ! different set of standards i think - they even got some morals.
Biggest mistake i made maser was disclosing my wealth but i mean mate its hard to keep secret you know when you see the way they live you think to yourself hell i can fix there entire situation with the stroke of a pen i can relieve the last 20 years poverty in a flash so you do it again and a bit more - then before you know it they are lining you up for a fall -too late they seen yu pay for the new telly with the gold card they know its in your pocket your exposed ! what do you do ! how can you scream poor with a 30k gold card in your hand .
then they think its deciet from you --your not confessing all are you ! in there eyes i mean .
DAMDED IF YOU PLEAD POVERTY AND YOUR SCAMMED TO DEATH IF YOUR ON THE LEVEL ( where are the morals ?? down the drain ay - mate iam not going to stand there worth 800k whatever tell some bugger iam struggling.
i wont stand and tell lies just to have a pretty bird if i do iam then down to there level yes ??
result is 2 levels of deciet ?
I think the only answer is mate that they have to lift there game clean up there own backyard go on the straight and narrow or reality is they wont get past 50 .
To those who have never taken the time to visit a russian cemetary take a hour or two one day call into st petersburg the largest cemetary there have a look / try to count all the graves folks under 40 years --you will need 3/ 6 calculators the young deaths are horendous in numbers . its a real eye opener .
most wont make it without a hand ay ! sorry but its fact go have a look see if iam wrong .
mike00
MIKE, half a day I'm trying to absorb your posts.... give me another 12 hours and you'll get the answers.
I'm calling my husb for help.
one small favoure, please. I undestand your sarcasm very well but three mistakes in one words
is too much even for mentally unballanced ukrainian woman.
guys, it's hard to readposts longer then 15 lines.
Mike, did you ask me why I've got a cople of embatsills before I put my picture on web with hope to find smbody normal for life?
because I was young and stupid. I was not able to accept man more then couple years older me.
I was not looking for golden hills cs believed that people who work in team will reach the top of hills no matter what.
2 attempts.
I was feeding those idiots and instead of make in boutique was buying food for dinner.
since 17 I have never had a rest in my life. Was styding in university and working 10 hours a days.
year by year.
"angry"? well, ludmila with her tits on full screen may be have reason to say that.
when I had a child. I born her for my self, realising the heavinss of this step, cs my country, no parents, no father ofmy child give no support. they can bash and put in shit. that's easy.
my husbands says for what I tol him, people in west spend YEARS in JAIL. here - nobody give a fuck.
to tell all I've passed I need a book, not forum post space.
you think my friends, girls, live better? If I tell you how my friends, beautiful women, grow their kids, alone too, you'll not beleive your ears. and they mnage to give to their children all they need. I don't know how much strength is need for that is this wild cuntry....
and you, western people, don't forget, that majority of you coming here are coming for fuck and blow off.
and you think smbody has to fall to your feet?
you first live here, and then tell us your rules and how to behave.
Person with the money makes the rules and thats in everything in life !
i lived there long enough to know that if you don't have rules they will walk all over you .
mike00
if the people can't understand posts i surgest go back to school .
What I'm curious about, Mike, is that you don't like russians, ukrainians, turkish, arabs
(I don't like them too), do you like australians? I didn't see a lot of love to then either.
so, question to you is this: is there any nation of people in the world you like?
sorry e being boring, I'm still reading your posts..... it's already third day...
to read half on one takes me few hours.
I like russians dear i just dont tollerate deciet , i see deciet in any race they i dont like it .
Russians should not be deciet - they should be gratefull that men want these women !
Dont get me wrong -at end of the day yes is deciet everywhere - sure but i want only to be with perfect that does not do deciet in any way ! that is my problem .
I tell it as i see it ! not as one could imagine it !
I GUESS ive been to to many places see a lot more wrong than correct ! so i voice it this way - everybody is entitled to opinion ,
I seek only the perfect in life and anybody who robs or decieves anybody else in my view has no place amongst anybody .
good and bad in all races = true so true - but iam only interested in being with a person who has zero deciet in it / or around it in life .
so there you have it it's very easy to sum up .
Deciet not allowed in my life in ANY WAY ! thats simple yes !
Monada i like most people and if you met me --- you would say this guy is open / happy i love humour you see , but i like all around me to be same ,
Look in russia in big cities gilrs walk the streets all sad faces all depressed whats wrong with them ?
so they got nothing !! so what??? being sad is not going to correct it ! i was not born silver spoon in mouth i was born poor but i worked hard i made it
Anybody can do this.
i see you speak you was with men 2 years older ( that is biggest mistake in womans life )
example if you found man in Australia example age 25 --he is a beggar he has nothing to offer in life .
man hear age 35 not much better !
If you find man hear 45/ 54 years THEN YOU ARE ON THE RIGHT ROAD !
MEN HEAR they like women ok 29 years man be 45 / 48 i see very much of this hear .
Iam 50 you think i be with a women over 35 years? i give you $1000 free if ever you see me with woman over 35 years ( you make a joke !) .
I speak on this forum maybe 30 times that iam NOT A MAN WANTS TO MARRY ( i do not know where person gets such idea of me??? )
My work ok i travel countries 180 days year some years iam away other years 130 days now what sort of married life could i give a women being away so long ! and kids i dont want new kids at age 50 !!!
Marriage to me NOT INTEREST ) THATS TOO OLD FASHIONED FOR ME ! i go where i want to go but to me as few of my friends do have in russia they have ''forever fiance '' they go away work come home to Russia after gone 2 months back to girlfriend .
To me that is ideal lifestyle .
Marriage is nothing marriage is something that makes a divorce lawyer rich is all iam not interested marry !
live together is same --! if you both get sick each other you can both walk away = good yes no problem.
If woman loves you she won't hold you to ransom over piece of paper that says married - i been married i was married 17 years my job is done - i wont do it twice and i did not like it because i was tied down , iam a free spirit . if i want to go another country i just up get bags and go and woman CAN too free!!! ---if not she want - i dont care !
she want big life hear take my hand ! lets do it , if she want screaming kids x 4 you got the wrong guy , iam trying to enjoy life after 36 years work my arss out 7 days a week .
I SPEAK BAD OF ARAB AND TURK BECAUSE THEY ARE THIS WAY i took 1 girl from Russia too Damascus dirty arabs grab her on the arss = pigs stink i told one i will give you hiding if you touch again.
Muslins!!!! iam not lover of multicultural ways is shit truly , i dont need walk with shit people .so i stay away from these people ( hey i dont care if they all kill each other just as long as don't include me in there daily affairs .
I like correct russians / born correct / die correct there are some !
i work IN my life with men in suits have money!! people have money , if is good or bad i dont know i cant change it .
So my love she can dine all of her life with people who dont have worries - result please herself as if she with me she live as beggar / or as class - is only 1 choice but she have to make choice not drag me down amongst all broke family = iam not interested in there problems .
not interested in deciet / scam / dissloyalty , must be nothing of that !
You can't have life both ways as you must choose 1 side of life - mine is the good side .
"gilrs walk the streets all sad faces all depressed whats wrong with them ?"
true. Hey, after being deciet, would you be happy? : ))
I know few young girls, they are always depressed and in probs... each about her 20s.
looking at them months, few, half a year - all the same, same probs, same attitude -
I kicked them out of my circle and now they are scared even to come 2 km close to me.
personally me - I hate depressed idiots. and beggers too.
More $$$ than i will need for next 10 years yes nobody gave it to me i work for it - not like some women russia want man to keep them in style as they lay lazily on a couch and bark orders,
Listen to anybody except me ?????????you speak ! well if i listened to 80% russian women i be a beggar in 6 months they only talk about monies and how they can get some from the poor/ OR RICH guy !
When i find a woman thats interested in man for man only and money means shit to her ))))))) then you have found correct woman .
I know plenty about your country and i know that in 80% of cases you can not knowingly end up ''surrounded by deciet'' = lovely huh !
In my country they call it stealing -and most go to prison for it GOOD I SAY !
THERE ARE SOME GOOD WOMEN but the biggest enemy to a good women in FSU is the jealousy around her from other women to fact that ''hey '' this girl has fallen onto her feet , she has a good guy able to make a good life ---------so hell we better destroy that !
Russian women there own worst enemy dear , last year i started writing a book russian ways / women culture i only about about 9 pages to finish it , then i will publish it .
I hope every unsuspecting man reads it and learns what i have learnt = trust in Russia = you make a joke!!!!!
rich man becomes a beggar very fast in Russia and is only fault of not respect and deciet around him / AND TOO HIM.
Who knows maybe one day in our lives they will clean up there act --but sadly for vast majority it will be too late .
I STILL LIKE RUSSIA and for most my life i will live there - i want to be there one day hopefully to see then clean up act .( I WANT TO SEE THE EVENT TAKE PLACE )
DONT BE MARRY CRAZY / EXCEPT MAN RICH OR POOR AND JUST BE HAPPY TO LIVE AS IS - THATS THE FORMULA DEAR .
I am not sure that in your book you'll give correctprospect about rissian woman.
Or
at least, PLEASE, DO SEPARATE Russian women from Ukrainian and don't put eggs in bolls in same basket,
they are similar in shape but different in USE.
And do, pls, understnad one moment: for woman in Russian life is not easier then for you, foreigner in Moscow.
One of the reasons of "decieting" is being decieted millions of times and loose belief in TRUE.
what is black what is white - no one is sure, and FSU women put you, western men, in same basket too:
fuck diggers and serious - how she can be sure that one day you won't disappear forever leaving her with broken heart???
That's why no one is trying to scam you on purpose - it's just life wirpool of another country, different from yours.
plus.
don't foret: West and FSU are like aliens from different planets discovering each other. for 70 years we have been living divided by iron wall, hot and cold wars.