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	Create New Topic   My Posts   My forum buddies   Invite friends   Private messages Russian brides > Main Forum > WILL I BE SAFE IN UKRAINE? Author Post aussieman41 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/11/2008 2:01:39 AM   Welcome back, Mondada, welcome back..ha, me too scared to stick his nose in Ukraine..not at all, I just don't want to waste my time and money chasing fake dreams! Your the kind of woman that wets my appetite! You got nice pics on your personal web page...you look like a hot latino women! Rag'n'Bull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/11/2008 4:10:26 AM   nooga, Have you checked Ukrainian customs regulations regarding how much cash a person may enter the country with? And, the only 'trouble free' Ukrainian entry point in my experiences is Borispol airport. Enter the country thru a regional airport, or indeed a seaport, then the officials there are all after what they can make and it is not unheard of for cash and/or other valuables to be confiscated. Rag'n'Bull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/11/2008 4:28:31 AM   And nooga, Would those be Australian or US dollars you are taking with you? MIKE00 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/11/2008 12:18:15 PM   $150 a hour mate they aint worth that for a week ! $120 a week more like it after all its a ruble economy yes ha ha and what russian or ukraine guy would have $150?? unless he passed the hat around the entire city on the beg . mate pretty or not no russian ukraine woman thats worth $150 for 3 days let alone an hour . i must admit ive not be asked by a pro there in my time she'd get a rude shock ha ha she'd soon find herself in my employ and for like $100 / $120 a week and thats being generous hey without us prostitutes starve in FSU AINT THAT A FACT . Il slip a good sort 7500 rubles a month there yu go ! i might do that next time hey better to get 7500 on yu back that go to some slave factory for 270 hours a month ay . if i were a woman i know what my choice would be! ( THE MAN OF COURSE ) ----------hey remember they all in a one way street in life there and there aint no guy at the end of the ally with $1000 - he dont exist . MIKE00 jetmba. Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/11/2008 5:32:53 PM   "we will be jetting the country with $10,000 in pocket for 6 weeks away. " Oh darn, nooga.... did we mention that Australian dollars CAN'T be converted into Ukrainian grievna? In fact, even if you convert the Australian dollars FIRST into US dollars, those US dollars will be tainted (stamped I think) and STILL can't be converted into Ukrainian grienvna. Its kind of like the old American saying (when asked directions) "You can't get there from here." Darn it, nooga, ..... what a bummer. Oh well,..... I guess you'll just have to stay home. You'll have no money. beemer18 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/11/2008 6:47:09 PM   According to Ukrainian customs officials, there is limit of $3000 USD brought into country without paying taxes. Usually able to fake it but young aussies with cash hanging out of pockets with be quickly be relieved of excess cash.....with a coordial...spasiba!!!! :))) Rag'n'Bull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/11/2008 7:07:57 PM   And ..... that amount of metal strips inside the notes is likely to set off the security metal detectors, or show up in the suitcase(s) as it goes through x-ray, what's that in your pocket sir? ..... Ah, thank you very much :) But, I did ask if it was Australian dollars, well at least he can use them for toilet paper! MIKE00 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/11/2008 8:47:16 PM   Beemer i took 13k into russia in july , $3000 down the family jewels $6000 in pocket and the rest in bag nodody ever quizzed me on amounts . but its simple you just take a euro card draw out your lot when there $3000 rule i dont think has been inforced since roman times . They love to take our money not like they going to say oh youi can only have $3000 . i knew one chap had $4000 in his shoes = nobody gave a shit . You just change it to rubles then go ukraine change to there loot . simple huh . getting money into FSU DEAD EASY mike 00 beemer18 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/11/2008 9:23:42 PM   Hi Mike00. Yes it is esy to 'sneak' money into FSU but young ignorant kids may be dumb enough to tell officials how much money they carry if asked. I've been in ukraine much more than you and I did have a couple times guys were asked how much money they carry and were checked along with luggage. It was by chance but if unlucky and LIE you will be in dip doodoo. I was even asked when leaving ukraine how much hryvina I had...I just told them 70 not knowing what wrong answer was. As far as 'nobody gave a shit' if they knew how much money you had, they gladly will take a few notes for themselves. I only change my notes to money needed in country i am in, to keep changing it into different notes costs each time. You get killed in exchange rate to go from rubles to hryvina....ukraine does not like russia or their notes. :)) Rag'n'Bull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/12/2008 4:14:30 AM   On one occassion I entered thru Borispol with a very significant amount of cash but that was Borispol, it wasn't a regional airport, a road crossing, nor a seaport. But, if nooga has nothing to fall back on, no plastic, no access to healthy bank account, then he going to be feeling very sorry for himself (I can feel another youtube coming on) if he finds his money confiscated and he's left begging on the streets in Ukraine. Also, what's he going to do with the cash once he's there, it is far from safe to leave it, even hide it, in an apartment or hostel and it is VERY unsafe to carry it with him on a daily/nightly basis. Rag'n'Bull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/12/2008 4:54:27 AM   And Mike, Do not presume that what might be OK in Russia might be the same for Ukraine. It has been talked of, much, previously on this forum regarding the corruption of the authorities in Ukraine, even by Oleg who is Russian. If one sends a parcel to Ukraine then it is normal that it will be 'held for ransom' in Kiev whilst the authorities invent all sorts of complications, paperwork errors, taxes, fines, and administrative costs to be paid. I had such a situation once and it was only when I told UPS to cancel the order and have it returned to the shipper that Kiev decided to release it with all paperwork and extortionate cost demands being dropped. At Dnepropetrovsk airport they tried to tell me that I had done something illegal by having a two aerosols of deodorant in my case when only one is allowed. What utter bullshit and when they told me it was a $20 fine I just laughed at them. Then there were two similar situations, at Dnepropetrovsk, of attempted $20 fines for cigarette lighters (lookalike firearms), again I just laughed at them but they seriously tried to scam me for $20 on all three of these occasions and I really had to stand up to them. I have an American friend who has an Uzbek wife, they entered Ukraine at Kharkov airport, she was wearing her wedding ring, I recall the story was that they kept them at the airport for some 2 hours claiming a breaking of law regarding the ring. They took her off to a private room, my American friend was going 'mental' whilst making a lot of noise and the only way to get out of the airport was to allow the ring to be confiscated. They subsequently had to report to a police station to get their ring back. So along comes nooga, a 20 y/o fresh faced kid from the other side of the world, such authorities are going to see him coming a mile off, 'he's just a kid' they'll think and they'll try it on every which way they can. At a regional entry/exit point all cases can go thru xray, it is common to have metal (walk thru) detectors for incoming people, the customs want to know what one has got on him/her. Anyone should know that in the wake of terrorist attacks, or attempted attacks, since 2001 it is commonplace that, before walking thru a detector, all outer clothing, often including shoes, are removed and any items, particularly bulky items, are removed from pockets. What nooga needs to appreciate here is that he's not going for a walk in the park, he's not merely jumping on an aeroplane to Coolangatta and the Gold Coast, he's entering, what was, the Soviet Union and whilst it may be considered safe if one 'behaves' themself it is very corrupt and if one goes out after dark then one should ideally be accompanied by one of the locals, perhaps a girlfriend, but one that can be trusted and one should never carry a significant amount of money on their person. nooga Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/12/2008 7:36:48 AM   I will have my credit card too. Martin that is AUD. I thought my credit card would be good for international transactions. Rag'n'Bull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/12/2008 9:04:59 AM   nooga, Do you not have a debit card linked to your bank account whereas you put all your money in the bank and live on plastic in Ukraine? There is absolutely no point in taking AUD's to Ukraine, you won't be able to change them, take Euro's or USD's if you need to take cash. The use of cards in Ukraine can be a hit or miss affair, often the bankomats (holes in the wall) will not function and/or vendors will say that their equipment is not working and/or the card will not authorise but as long as one has the equivalent of a couple of hundred dollars in their pocket, as a back up to pay a bill by cash, then one normally gets by. Try to ignore the idiot above, if he'd read the post then he would have realised it was an Uzbek national wearing a wedding ring, something that all married people do, and not, quote, an 'American Knob Head' ..... and I ain't American :) jetmba. Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/12/2008 9:55:10 AM   danny3777: I was actually going to COMPLIMENT you on your advice to nooga till I read you little "love note" to me. Now you can take a flying F***. ben2006 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/12/2008 10:20:00 AM   Yes as others have suggested don't take so much cash (although i do think you can exchange Aus dollars there, but theres not going to be many places that can. I have seen some that do in Moldova but i bet their exchange rate is crap). You don't need a credit card for cash, a bank debit card is better and you can transfer funds as you need via internet banking. You won't be hit for interest that way. If you do take cash take euros and make sure they are unmarked. There are heaps of ATM machines around, but tell your bank BEFORE you go that you will be using the card in ukraine (so they don't block it) and ask them whats the maximum amount you can take out in one day. And take two cards (credit card is fine as a backup). I think you'll be fine. jetmba. Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/12/2008 10:52:10 AM   Regarding Martin's post above (on holding parcels in Kiev): When in Yalta - we went to an international restaurant and had "Macho Nachos" which my lady really liked. On rturning to the US I sent her a parcel containing (among other things) a can of processed nacho-cheese sauce. This parcel took FOREVER to get out of kiev, but when it finally did, the tin-can of nacho-cheese sause had been confiscated. Reason? The slip inserted in the package said it was not "hygenic" to ship cheese through the postal system. ben2006 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/12/2008 10:59:59 AM   And just don't arrive wearing a Canbrrea Riders top or Aussie Rugby or cricket top. Not just because they are crap teams but it will draw attention to yourselves. And don't chant Aussie Aussie Aussie oi oi oi down the main street while your drunk. Just keep a low profile at first until you get familar with the situation. You won't stand out at all probably, not like an older guy walking around with a younger girl as others have found out. Having 2 of you will help as well. Rag'n'Bull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/12/2008 3:38:08 PM   This thread was actually becoming constructive, giving a young guy good advice to keep himself in funds and out of trouble ..... then along came dyslexic danny! jetmba. Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/12/2008 4:31:09 PM   dummy3777: You're right about many aspects of ukraine life (except don't say "the" ukraine, thats a region, "Ukraine" is a country)but absolutely wrong about me. When did I ever say that there are no ATMs? (I use them ALL THE TIME!) And when did I say that there are more women than men? Hey the Romance Socials are just a way to MEET the women. You STILL have to take them OUT (Duh?!?) And you STILL have to interact on the street. MOST of what you say is right on. But you are WAY to paranoid in some things. One out of a thousand guys will give you trouble? Guess what? In ANY city one out o thousand guys will give you trouble. And as far as me not commenting just because you told me not to? Blow it out your Australian Ass. Maxirat Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/12/2008 4:53:38 PM   Correct me if I am wrong. The reason you declare your $$$ or Euro on entry, is for example You declare zero and when your depart Ukraine – they find you have x amount of $$ on you – they will take it. Ukraine has no problem with $$ coming in – but not visa – versa Noogo – convert your Aussie $$ into US or Euro – split between the two of you and declare what you take in and then if you leave Ukraine still holding foreign currency, there will be no problem. We always take cash, but leave what we haven’t used there with the M-in-law. Lena’s mum also has a NZ money card that she can withdraw money from ATM machine at the local shop, which automatically debits our account here in NZ, cost $6nz per withdrawal – and the limit is $800nz per day, but she has only ever been able to get 2000grv out of a ATM in one hit. I have got 2500grv from an ATM in Ukraine before. Your Reply: Your name:   New Registration Password:   Forgot password?   refresh Code:   Russian brides > Main Forum > WILL I BE SAFE IN UKRAINE?
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