danny still doesn't realize that not all of us have the OPTION to just go to the FSU for a month and look for women. I am happy for danny that he HAS that opportunity - but many of us (including myself) have obligations that prevent it.
FOr instance, if one happens to be EMPLOYED, then one has a limited amount of vacation time avilable. I have approximately 5 1/2 weeks of vacation avilable to me per year - and no more than THREE of them available to me at any one time or during the summer. So it is quite difficult to MEET women and really spend a lot of time with them in the traditional sense, given my employment.
Even if I were to pull a magic trick and were to be able to use all 5 1/2 weeks at the same time (perhaps in winter) - I would not be able to RETURN to see that womanagain for another YEAR!
danny doesn't seem to get the fact that going over there for an extenteded period just isn't an option for many of us, so he continually knocks evryone who writes or visits for a short time.
Fook, who gets 90 days off from work to travel and be able to do this seven times.
In Australia that equals not taking annual leave from work and accumulating it over a 3 year period for one trip and to do seven trips that would take 21 years of accumulated working annual leave at 4 weeks per year!
Or if you wanted to use accrued long service leave, the first 90 day trip would take 15 years of your working life to accrue and the other 6 trips you would have to work 60 years for it, so 75 years of working is required to accrue enough long service leave for 7 trips! ( based on a 90 day visit each trip )
Whitebiker you sould like a Hells Angel that sells dope 3 months of the year, makes a packet on the drug deals to afford these 90 day holidays and had 9 months of the year off!
This is not fooken real!
Book me a seat on the next space shuttle flight and fly me to the moon!..this is not reality!
I'm a newbie to actually posting in this forum although I have spent many hours reading through what people have had to say to educate myself from other peoples experiences.
I'm actually going to Odessa on 19th July and it would be cool to meet up ... I'm a newbie to this too and have never travelled to Ukraine before.
If you fancy meeting up then let me know. I'm going there in person, I've really lost faith in Agencies (I've only used Anastasia... was enough for me!) and I'm basically going there with 2 brothers in the hope of finding my second half.
Let me know, and guys... since I'm new to the forum, just thought I'd welcome myself as 'Gav' and I'd like to thank everyone for their posts which are giving me great 'preparation' for Ukraine.
Hey Danny! I have a 2005 Mini... no carbs, a supercharger and fuel injection. Yours sounds cool though, I have heard that the Minis were called "giant killers" in their time at the race track because of their competitive nature. My wife went back to Russia to take care of her lame brain criminal 23 year old son. Russian women have a deep motherly instinct and they will sacrifice everything for their children. I'll take your suggestion and leave a few nights free and try my hand at the non-advertised locals.
Martin... I never have an "attitude" with women, I treat them with the respect they deserve. I have been blessed with decent looks and through out my life I've always had the ability to "pick and choose" more so than other guys... I find it's all about "how" how you present yourself to them. Women generally "read" me as confident, friendly, a good listener and possessing their most sought after trait... good attitude.
Kerosene, I would of loved to meet up with you guys for a drink but I have changed my travel plans and I'm concentrating on Moscow (3 days one lady) and Kiev/Vinnitsa/Sumy (11 days several ladies) now.
Aussieman... give it to them and never give up... your rants and raves are appreciated by most of us.
Monda... If I was twenty years younger I would take you on a date and "leave no meat on the chicken"... once you were f'd by me you would stay F'd... no need for it again <smile>.
well, i'm in kiev right now, been here for about a month, just a couple of weeks and i have to go back to the uk! :-(
mind you another 3 weeks to sort out stuff at home and i'm coming back, hopefully have a job by then too. i hope that the company can sort out any paperwork, etc, that i will need!
i came here just to see one girl who i had been phoning for a year and everything has worked out fantastically. fyi... i brought her some perfume, etc, just to break the ice a bit. it's one thing chatting for hours on the phone every day or so, and another actually seeing her! pretty much spent all our time together so far. she's just spent one night at her flat!
we went to the black sea with her best friend for a few days which was great. apart from the long train journey anyway!
It's wonderful that you have found one lady and it has worked out for you. I found one Russian lady four years ago while I was in Velikiy Novgorod, I thought it would last forever. But, a turn of bad luck and here I am again ... looking.
I'll be in Kiev the first 9 days of August on a "meet and greet" trip (I just could not choose, I have to meet them). Lets have a beer or two one morning!
kerosene, i dont give your strategy a high degree of success. probably have a pretty good time but girls dont stand along the road with signs saying im looking for a serious relationship, they do it on the net. there are lots of free russian language sites overflowing with ladies looking for relationships and many tell you whether they speak english. avoid agencies.
The free dating sites are generally just crawling with scammers... beware. If they look too good to be true... they are. Good luck and let us know what happens!
I'm new on the forum but found it very interesting. I"m married to a lady from Zap. Ukraine. The way I did it was I had found a number of ladies on Anasta. but would get their addresses then have my own translator (a lady I found that was living in Zap. and was certified by the American Translation Society - or some other such organization) to write them so that they started corresponding through her rather than Anasta.
Anyway when I got to Kiev I had four women lined up that were through Anasta and they all crapped out. My translator got on the phone and lined up 10 women to meet me in the seven days I was in Zap. She covered my trail so none of the women new I was with another woman, made sure I bought little gifts and followed customs, lined up taxis, arranged outings and was there 12 hours each day. The short is on my second to the last night in Zap I met my now wife.
Before I was sure she was "the one" I travelled two more times back to Zap. and spent 1-2 weeks each time exclusively with her. I also had her take a MMPI, sign a pre-nup and we took a Kiersey compatability test together. I wanted to make sure because she was 20+ years my junior. We now our happily married and raising two children.
I have since recommended several friends and relatives to this same lady in Zap. who now runs her own site at http://LovedByHer.com
I go to the Ukraine pretty regular (gotta stay in touch with sister, papa and mama of wifey) so if you guys want to contact me through the site I'll be glad to answer any questions.
p.s. I agree with Mini Cooper statement that the free dating sites are generally crawling with scammers. I know several Ukraine guys that make a living that way. At least the paid sites verify the girls identify and her status as being single.
p.s.s. Just because you go to the Ukraine don't expect a girl to fall head over heals simply because you have "money" or are an American, Australian, Brit or West European. Treat the ladies with respect and be a gentlemen. The long term dividends are incredible if you do.
Your right Gemini, there is a huge difference between FSU women on free russian dating sites and those FSU women on free western dating sites.
The women on free russian sites are looking to meet russian guys and I dont think they are expecting to try and scam the russian guys. Cant see russian guys falling for it.
Ive used free russian sites for about 2 years and met many fabulous women from the site.
Its all written in russian but can be worth the extra effort.
Hey Mini Cooper,
Does your nickname MINI refers to the size of your brains (I wonder if you will have any) or the size of your dick in your pants (that is why your wife left you)? Your topic in this forum disgusted me, although I am a man, but I am ashamed that there are so many assholes like you around who think they have some money and that they can buy a pretty wife and a happy life. You have totally no respect for women and do you think they would ever respect and love you? Marriage is not a beauty contest, and you are definately not the jury in a beauty contest, why the fuck you need to meet 12 women around the same time? I presume that you want to be worth your money and to be able to date many pretty girls because you know a smart and pretty girl would never fall for someone like you because you have a rotten character and a sick mind. So, the only way you will be able to hold a girl's hand and date her is when you buy your date. If you feel strongly for one of those 12 girls, you would only meet that one girl and have dropped the other 11 girls a long time ago. Your marriage did not succeed before, maybe it is time for you to realize that the problem is within yourself, how can you love someone and she will be able to love you if you are cheating her all the time? You want to buy love with presents or take her to shopping? What a soar loser are you? You want to pretend to be generous and noble, you will never be because if you are really generous, you would not ask other people what to do. Anyway, this is my advice for you and the other assholes like you. Stop dreaming and wake up, look yourself in the mirror and wipe that nasty smile from your face and kill that fucking maniac you see in front of you in the mirror. Start respecting women because if you wish her to love you, you must first start to respect her...
Mini Cooper
you will fail. Even if some of those women will agree to marry you, anyway you will fail in the end. You think these women are so easy to fool like that? You think they will not guess how many plans B, C, D and so on you have? Or you consider they won't mind to feel themselves like the goods that you are choosing?
So even if you get married just remember my words. Sooner or later you will realize that the woman who has agreed to marry you had only one reason - a residence permit. It's because all others were looking for love and when they noticed how low and dishonest you are just gave up on you
Julia, you are way too smart for him and I totally agree with you. I am afraid that he will not understand what you are talking about because you will have to drop so low at his level if you want him to understand you.
Are you "one" person with multiple personalities? Why such an angry outburst? I don't understand your loathing remarks coupled with such a poor attitude. Life on Earth is short and the amount of adrenaline you just secreted writing those three letters will certainly shorten your life.
Remember... "Happiness is the art of making a bouquet of those flowers within reach". Think about this! You can choose to go through life happy and content by simply appreciating the good things around you the alternative is to spend your life angry and miserable.
You now should internalize and use what I've just told you... if your change comes from within... you will find life is wonderful and you will start living it with "passion" !