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	Create New Topic   My Posts   My forum buddies   Invite friends   Private messages Russian brides > Main Forum > best place to find a wife Author Post apal1 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 7/29/2008 2:15:18 PM   Age gaps are very common in the FSU, if the man is attractive and/or successful. I dated 17 year old models in Colombia who looked even younger and their own mother's and/or sister approved due to them approving of my appearance and demeanor. Yet, I will repeat myself, if you are NOT attractive its going to be very hard to do, unless you got a lot of money, charm and charisma to make up for the major demerit you seem to want to overlook. No statistic is an absolute, but since you get a little "touchy" regarding my posts, I'll just chalk your "opinions" to be touched by jealous, insecurity and issues of self-worth and leave it at that. Dunromin Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 7/30/2008 3:02:43 AM   apal1: How long have you been married to an FSU woman who is extremely "hot" and much younger than you? aussieman41 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 7/30/2008 7:32:21 AM   There was an 18 year old age gap between Irina of Krivoy Rog born in 1982 and me in 1964..in her profile she said she wanted a 35 to 55 year old man and I was in between...I needed my head examined and I woke up..this was never going to work if I went ahead and done a personal visit, her strict criteria was very high of what she expected in a man ( found that out much latter as said in another post here about her newer "in your face" profile" that I found ) and I pulled the plug, us older men dream of being in bed with a beautiful 20 something filly but lets be realistic, we are not 20 somethings anymore and what sane woman anywhere would really want a partner 2 decades there senior, I was old enough to be her Dad almost, actually I think in this situation her father may have been around 49 and her mother 47 for her age 26, thats what you would typically find in the age of parents of these young 20 soemthing FSU girls and usually only the one and only child and spoilt with high dreams..imgaine her father was probably no more than 5 years older than me! It was unrealistic..I have always said the age gap does matter, should be ideally 5 to 10 years apart and at 15 years its getting a dangerous prospect to have any chance of lasting and at 18 years, it only wants an easy meal ticket to another country..she would have dumped my ass after feathering her nest in anew country and find a younger more virile man..this is what happens with mega age difference relationships, they very rarely last..generation apart..worlds apart I say..its doomed at the start, you might as well go get a rope and hang yourself...so stupid to even think to get involved with such a young filly and unstable prospect after my last divorce squashed me into the ground and nearly killed me...I am glad I woke up and pulled the plug! The price you pay for wanting a young sexy body to play with in bed is too high..you need to think with the grey matter and not your penis. Rag'n'Bull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 7/30/2008 8:08:45 AM   Ooops, Looks like some fisticuffs are about to ensue, bring in the heavy artillery whilst I leg it to the nearest fallout shelter :) P.S. Greetings from Antalya, Turkey. devilmaycare Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 7/30/2008 7:41:09 PM   Francisco, you seem to be deluding yourself on several levels. NO 49 year looks 35 - I'm very well preserved fit 43 myself and would struggle to pass for 35, your deluding yourself if you think that money and/or visa is not going to be significant factor for woman looking for a man 30 years older. Your also deluding yourself if you think it will last - like a 35 year old woman is going to stay in love with a 65 year old man ?? for f**** sake thats as old as my day, almost as old as beemer. colin Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 7/30/2008 9:39:23 PM   There is ladies everywhere in the world that prefer older men. But where it is a rare in the west it happens more in the poorer countries. And the reasons are financial dont kid yourself with other reasons the biggest attraction is your security but that dosnt mean its a bad thing either. And I have no problem with a man with a younger woman if both are happy. No matter what age, women do look for stability in a man. Some are satisfied with a man who job hops as long as he keeps the bills paid, food on the table and treats her to that special something from time to time. Not all older men are rich, but most have been through the trials of finances and are able to manage their money reasonably well. It is of course going to be a harder job to keep the younger womans interest for ever. The owner of the gym where I go is 42 his wife is 26 and a stunning model type,from the Ukrane. When she goes to the gym to workout the guys all stare. I would never have thought he was insecure with her. But as we both are married now to women from the same country he has opened up to me. His way around it was to get her pregant. Currently shes pregant with his third child and she is I will say a devoted mother and to be honest I dont think he needs to worry about her at all. Her life is her children. I have talked to my ex,s sister about her being with a older man for the last few years she was 18 when they met and he 37 just seperated from his wife. She told me she was hurt before by younger guys and was hoping with the older guy she was dating it would be different. colin Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 7/30/2008 9:43:07 PM   There is ladies everywhere in the world that prefer older men. But where it is a rare in the west it happens more in the poorer countries. And the reasons are financial dont kid yourself with other reasons the biggest attraction is your security but that dosnt mean its a bad thing either. And I have no problem with a man with a younger woman if both are happy. No matter what age, women do look for stability in a man. Some are satisfied with a man who job hops as long as he keeps the bills paid, food on the table and treats her to that special something from time to time. Not all older men are rich, but most have been through the trials of finances and are able to manage their money reasonably well. It is of course going to be a harder job to keep the younger womans interest for ever. The owner of the gym where I go is 42 his wife is 26 and a stunning model type,from the Ukrane. When she goes to the gym to workout the guys all stare. I would never have thought he was insecure with her. But as we both are married now to women from the same country he has opened up to me. His way around it was to get her pregant. Currently shes pregant with his third child and she is I will say a devoted mother and to be honest I dont think he needs to worry about her at all. Her life is her children. I have talked to my ex,s sister about her being with a older man for the last few years she was 18 when they met and he 37 just seperated from his wife. She told me she was hurt before by younger guys and was hoping with the older guy she was dating it would be different. apal1 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 7/31/2008 4:00:50 AM   It's rare in the west but more common than you guys seem to think. I guess you would have reason to be insecure if you married younger. Things like unfit, overweight, out of shape, not that attractive, etc... Yet, if you are attractive and do make more money than average your hopes aren't all that bad if you get a girl who likes older men. Bring on the statistics, but they overlook the most important ingredients - trust, security and mutual attraction. I know many men that are handsome and should have no problem dating a bright-eyed 18 yr old and they know it too. what I see in this forum are the atypical men that NEED to go to Ukraine just to find a "normal" type of girl because they might not be attractive in the first place. If this is you - stay cleer of ANY age gap over 2-5 years. apal1 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 7/31/2008 4:03:11 AM   And believe it or not, I love big age gaps. At first it was great when I was 18 dating attractive women in their 30's and 40's. Now the tables are turning and its fun. ;) I also love language barriers, but I am not atypical. So don't go try lumping me into some assinine statistic. ;p Dunromin Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 7/31/2008 7:38:44 AM   apal1: Statistics don't interest me too much. What interests me is your suggestion of going to the smaller cities. Where will one fly into Ukraine? Most often Kiev and sometimes Odessa. To bypass Kiev is bypassing 4+ million people of which close to 50% are female and going to a city of 10% the size. 10% of the choice pool. Your implied approach is very typical of those who haven't got what it takes to play in the big league and want to go where there is less competition. I've watched punters like this pass through London, New York, Moscow, Kiev, Kishinev, Riga, Bucharest, Sophia, Mexico City, Peru, Rio and a host of other major cities enroute to the minors over the past 5 + years and I have also noticed a few of the results. Not flattering. As for "Dating" teenagers, it requires little talent and even less time. Having dated across 27 countries I learned very quickly, a "Date", or a "Lay", particularly a young one, is a piece of cake. What is much more difficult is this............... Meeting someone you didn’t intend to by accident, who is 15-20 years younger than you with an already highly successful career in the fashion industry, a trophy cabinet bedecked with awards from beauty and modeling competitions, 2 higher education’s at the best universities the country has to offer and find they are interested in you as a potential life partner. One forgets their own good looks (or otherwise) very quickly and spends some time reflecting on whether or not one is really worth what is being offered. To watch that person struggle with learning a new language only for you. To watch that person give up the high lights at the big end of town. To watch that person dedicate their very being to spending their life with you. To watch the inner turmoil as they wrestle with leaving family and beloved friends with the thought of maybe seeing them once a year or at best twice. To watch that person fight the inner fight that any genuine and decent woman will when faced with decisions of this nature. To watch that person arrive in a new country, battle to learn the local ways, feel humiliated because they don't speak fluently, to "Hang out" in the early stages until you arrive home each afternoon because you are the only person they know after leaving a vibrant social life, to watch that person willingly lower their colours to find the most basic work because they need to reestablish their sense of self worth, to watch that person study until 4 in the morning to gain local accreditation for their qualifications, to watch that person slowly rebuild a career in a new country and to have that person say to you, don't ever leave anything for me in your will because if you are gone I will be returning to Russia, YOU are the only reason I am here, nothing else. To even be acquainted with such a person, much less married to such, as I am, is something I suspect is way beyond your comprehension, much less possible target range. To sustain such a relationship over time and both be very comfortable with your own selves is a challenge you are yet to face. You may continue to preach your unfathomable tripe forever if you choose. It’s merit is restricted to cheap dating. There is an ocean between there and where those of us who have sustained an international marriage are. Do carry on your clueless nonsense, I’m sure it tends your ego well and you might notice it is those less than junior who are asking your opinion. You have no clue regarding international relationships, you have little idea regarding the east of Europe and I suspect the stories which you so loudly “Don’t” want to tell are simply pipe dreams. Martin: You have no need of a fallout shelter, such as this dreamer are but paper mashie’ puppets and when their “Theories” are exploded there is nothing left. He says he is not atypical. He got that right and if he learned a little language he would understand the irony of his own claim. I guess the pocket translators don’t explain the finer details, the sorts of detail it takes to build a serious relationship with an educated person of substance and quality. Exactly the sort of person the decent and higher quality Slavic women will avoid at pains because they see them coming a mile off………by the planeload. Apal1: Have you heard the “old” Slavic woman’s adage, a little better looking than a monkey is good enough? There is hope for you yet. Don’t give up your quest, but do stay within the realms of your knowledge, experience and capabilities……….junior school. If you can’t afford to hoe the Slavic row, then stick with Latin America, it’s closer and cheaper. Sorry to leave you short, but I must dash as that gorgeous lady I mentioned earlier is cooking up a storm in our kitchen right now. We must eat, we may need strength for later……………………it can almost be tiring being loved so much. apal1 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 7/31/2008 9:57:29 PM   Dun> Congratulations for a big-winded approach of voicing your "opinion". So your saying your a big league player eh? Okay... whatever floats your boat. And I've been in major cities before. So your take is to play the major cities on a percentage that one out of one million might be the one? I guess that could work 10 years ago, but today is a different "Big League" environment and that playing field is a completely different ball game. So go reflect on your nostalgia for the good old days. Things have changed and if you don't realize it, then your about as full of wind as your post. apal1 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 7/31/2008 10:04:59 PM   Dun> If you got a brain in your head, why not argue my entire post in the Kiev Dining argument going on in a different topic: http://forum.fiance.com/forum2.asp?Main=ShowTopic&forumid=1&topi cid=4031 Francisco asked specifically where not to find a material girl and your going to throw your lard brain into this discussion like some kind of whining child and tell him Kiev is the best place to find her? You just proved your an egotist with little real value to this topic. I don't want a material girl, so I have honed in on more than 300 top looking girls and from letters and asking around the 2 months I was just there about this situation. People like you remind me why people hate even asking for advice in this forum in the first place. apal1 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 7/31/2008 10:08:55 PM   And no I did not meet 300 girls, but I have written that many... and I ask them about it and most are honest. I recommend writing first to eliminate a wasted effort, because there is nothing worse than meeting an attractive girl, shelling out $100-300.00 for a nice date to find out something simple as to her material ambitions. And some Kiev girls (especially the very attractive) do want to be wined and dined and DO want an extremely wealthy millionaire. apal1 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 7/31/2008 10:11:56 PM   A man making $30,000 to 70,000 a year is not going to want to meet one of these very beautiful new Kiev/Odessa/Moscow girls. He is 1000x better off in a smaller city. But keep throwing your "opinion" into this argument - you sound like your going to steer him in the right direction. ;0 I make slightly more, but I still don't like material girls. I find them boring, superficial, shallow and materialistic. ;p apal1 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 7/31/2008 10:49:57 PM   And a desperate girl in a small town is one desperately looking for a good man. I just wanted to clarify that one again. In the big cities like Kiev, they are more desperate to find a rich man than most other towns in Ukraine. Dun> Go ahead and argue the point some more with your fanciful and nostalgic "opinions" of the good old days, your showing your age and lack of current information. Dunromin Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 7/31/2008 11:19:56 PM   1,2,3,4 ..............gotten it all off your chest yet? apal1 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/1/2008 12:13:21 AM   PS> Here is an actual copied text from a recent letter regarding a Big City girl and her material expectations: "Dear, you have to know that woman’s beauty is the thing on what should work… I mean nature beauty of course is very important thing, however as the picture requires a frame, the beauty requires good clothes, good health, good food for it and etc. So, I mean subject to money can’t be ignored." beemer18 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/1/2008 1:29:54 AM   Apal...since the moment you entered this forum, you have spoke about material things, whether it be yours, girls lack of it or girls wanting it. I would be surprised if something about money is NOT in your letters to girls because it is on nearly every post here. Since you like to talk about it, I am sure the girls you write to speak about it. In nearly 2 years of letter writing I had never had a girl talk about money because I don't write about it.....only scammmers would. I am also not sure what you mean by the 'new' big city girls. I think you can find sincere girls in any city, big or small, but if you are afraid of a little competition then go to the small cities. Confident men don't think about such things. apal1 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/1/2008 12:43:57 PM   Beem> Your mentioning that incident were I posted about being scammed on my first way overpriced apartment in Odessa and all you old fuds badgerred me for a month about it? Okay... Sure, I might make more money than most, but I don't want a gold-digger... who does? And by gold-digger I'm not talking about the girl wanting a better life for herself. I'm talking about the girl who dreams of her boyfriend buying her a Porsche and apartment and her dreams of living in Mansions and Villas... And if your trying to dink me with statements of being afraind of a little competition, what exactly are you getting at? You think I should compete with the local rich millionaires in Kiev? Or is it competition with guys like you that I'm supposed to fear? Oh no... don't put me in competition with Mr. Ladies Man Beemer himself... I'm scared. ;) Dunromin Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/1/2008 3:18:27 PM   "Quote: "You think I should compete with the local rich millionaires in Kiev?". If you want the best, you have to compete with the best for the best wherever that is, Kiev or the chicken farms, it makes no difference. BTW, the wealthy in the east don't limit their addresses to the known major cities. You might just find yourself having your financial arse handed to you out in the boonies if you follow your own advice. Quote: "So, I mean subject to money can’t be ignored." Cluelessness abounds. Dude that is NOT written by any material big city girl who is searching the net for a life partner, it is written by a scammer with a capital S. A Slavic woman with any substance will simply NEVER EVER go there in early letters. No way, not ever. Quote: "being afraind of a little competition, what exactly are you getting at?" I don't know what the poster was getting at, but what I am getting at is blowhards like you who try to create some internet persona, who have no class, no money, no ability and no knowledge, no real experience, trying to lead the freshmen up the garden path and simply can't compete at any level. The likes of you should not only go to the small cities, you should go further, cross the border and get out of the country because you have no earthly hope of finding anyone decent and you continue to lower the reputation of foreigners in general.........that is of course if you have ever actually been to Ukraine, because the more you post, the more I am seriously doubting that. You have no experience developing an international relationship of substance and the best you can come up with is trying to advise 50 Y/O's on how to catch a hot 18 Y/O in the villages. Generally such people are known around the world as pedophiles. You sure you didn’t have you home (Sorry, that was trailer) raided during the last round of arrests and decide to do a runner, that’s why you’re chasing Columbia, that is if you have ever been there. Your Reply: Your name:   New Registration Password:   Forgot password?   refresh Code:   Russian brides > Main Forum > best place to find a wife
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