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	Create New Topic   My Posts   My forum buddies   Invite friends   Private messages Russian brides > Main Forum > Check out this link and contemplate one's errors Author Post chipscher Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/26/2003 12:50:41 PM   Matt, just go with the flow, everybody is different, what works for trav may not work for you. If you are serious about your search, I would recommend this site, of course, but also www.blossoms.com. Once you meet people online, then make travel plans to visit, see how it works out. If you do not want to put all your eggs in one basket, take your vacation for like 2 weeks, and see several people you are intereseted in. Then on the flight home, you can decide who you want to fill out the paperwork with! wtrav02 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/27/2003 12:23:44 AM   hip, she is the only kid in her family. Her girlfriends are not interested in relationships with foreigners. I met her girlfriends in my second trip. They were all curious about me at the time and afterwards. We tried to hook up one of her girlfirends with one of my friends, but it didn't work. Her Russian relatives (her mother is Russian)who haven't meet me still think she's crazy she married a foreigner and left her country. Her mother when she realized our relationship was getting serious and there was a good chance her daughter would go away was crying on a daily basis. Then wehen she met me and saw that her daughter was happy gradually changed her mind. Her parents are the best, they really did a great job raising her. M1, my advice is stick to it and don't get discouraged. When I first started, I got so excited I spent a whole weekend looking at the galleries and making lists of women that I would send letters (I mean I slept 6 hours the whole weekend and didn't get out at all). Then I realized older profiles in the galleries are not up-to-date, so I crossed 90% of the names on my list. I didn't want to pay per letter sent because I wasn't sure what was behind the scenes, so I signed up for memberships with unlimited letter forwarding. Then I discovered these sites were scammer playgrounds (Absolute Agency and others). Then I tried instant forwarding sites and became interested in advertising myself in the media. I signed up for dating-ru "advertise yourself" service only discover that I wasted about $70. I never got any proof that they put my ad on the newspapers they claim they would advertise me and only periodically I received letters from unknoan agencies here and there urging me to visit their sites. These agencies would first ask me what type of lady I am looking for and then would throw me a letter every day presumably coming directly from a woman who saw my profile. After a few unanswered letters, the ladies would lose their interest in me and I would not hear again from that agency until the next agency. You really need to be persistent and selective. Don't settle for anything less than what exactly you're looking for, but be realistic. Remember it's a risk reward type situation. The risks you're taking are high, the investment is high, the chances of success are not all that great, you should expect something special. High quality, glamor type (yes glamor type) pictures of yours are a MUST. Wear different suites, shirt/tie, t-shirt/coat, etc. Remember the pictures tell something about you, show off your CONFIDENCE, for example throw the jacket over your shoulders. Look inside the lense, establish eye contact with lense. When she looks into your eyes (in the pictures), she will feel the eye contact as if it was for real. Don't show every day pictures of yourshelf in a t-shirt and shorts. This is plain stupid, would you ever show up in beachwear in you first date? (maybe you would if you're on "elimidate"). Believe me the pictures are of great importance and the women do count on them. Be realistic and honest in your letters, tell her exactly what you're looking for and what type of person you are. You don't want to waste your time before you find you're not compatible. As soon as you realize a letter is fishy, don't waste your time, don't get too attached through the first letters. After 3-4 letters (traslated), call her. Send her flowers in the first opportunity. Remember attention is king and can get you the brownie points you need. Show her examples of your life. If you like traveling, send her pictures from your trips. If you're into nature photography, send her some of your pictures that you're most proud of. Show a sense of adventure in your letters, show her it's going to be ineteresting to live together. I was communicating with another very young and beautiful Russian girl and told her in a letter about my diving experiences. I went into some length. The translator advised me that a Russian provincial lady might be scared away. I insisted. The girl liked that part so much, she mentioned several times how much she liked my lifestyle. She contunued correspindence even if I canceled my trip three times and finally told her I would not contunue our correspondence. Don't talk too much about your job, but let her know that you are proud of yourself and your accomplishments. Show her you're not lazy, you're ambitious and you have prospects and plans in your life. Don't ever talk about money, cars, houses in details only in teh course of a converstion. Verify her with a flower even if you're one hundred percent sure she's real. Ask for a picture of the girl with the flower. This will give you a picture of how she looks in her real life. Don't be scared of glamor pictures of girls. Look at the pictures in detail. A girl who is hiding her body is probably too fat. Try to read the details on her face. Eyes are very important and is something you cannot change with re-touching. After 2-3 phone calls, amke plans to see her. Don't delay a trip more than 3-4 months maximum 6 months after the first letter. Make sure she's waiting for you. Meeting in a neutral location is best. Don't fly her to some exotic place, go there it will be an experience for you and her. Make sure you have contacted an attorney and know what information you will need to collect from her (or find what info you need on your own). Visa approval is a lenghthy process and you don't want to waste time if things seem to work out. Make sure you take pictures together in identifiable spots (Russian charcters or monuments showing) so you can convince BCIS that you actually met her (8-10 good pics suffice). Make the second trip to her city, meet her parents, friends, etc. I always travel indepedently no matter where I go and so I did in Ukraine, but this depends on peronality. It will probably save wtrav02 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/27/2003 12:28:09 AM   It will probably save you some money. It can be more fun, but again it depends on personality. It is very easy. You can get your fare to Ukraine online or from travel agent. You should book an apartment before you get there. There are many online services that rent apartments in all cities. Most charge fat commissions, but it's still cheaper than hotel and believe me it is much better to have an apartment than a hotel from the woman's perspective. If you are meeting in a place where the woman needs accomodation, you definitely rent two apartments preferrable on same building. Don't even think using the same apartment. Also, let her know you're booking separate apartments, email her the whole itinerary and advise her to buy traing tickets first class (if she's traveling to meet you) and you will reimburse her. Don't ever send her money before you see her. If she asks for money, it's generally a bad sign. She will afford a ticket if she knows you'll reimburse her. She needs to assume a little risk as well. If your girl is from Ukraine, the best meeting place for first meeting is Kiev. It's a cosmopolitan city with many things to do, restaurants, etc. It will be comfy for you and she will like it also. If you are traveling to Kiev, www.kievhotelservice.com is absolutely the best service in town. Alex Zubkov co-owns his apartments and charges no commissions as a result. None can beat his deals ($50-60 per day centrally located, outstanding quality). And Alex is just a great guy and extremely reliable and educated (he's an MD believe or not). He will pick up the lady from the train station at your request, he will bring her to the airport to meet you (this is pretty cool for first meeting really), and then he'll take both of you to the apartments. He'll give you all kinds of info before and after your trip, all communication via email in perfect English. He'll get you tickets for the theater or ballet and will not charge a penny for the service. He'll send you docs for visa and guide you through all details for mo fees. Again it depends on personality, but none should be scared to travel indepedently to FSU. Make sure you have somewhere to stay and a reliable source in town. Hope this helps, by all means good luck! deanis Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/27/2003 12:50:14 AM   Hey Wtrav. Do you have good apartment contacts in Kharkov as well? I understand that your wife is from Kharkov. I'll be going back in January. I stayed at the Hotel Kharkov my first trip but would like to rent an apartment on my next trip. Thanks for any info. wtrav02 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/27/2003 12:55:50 AM   I did stayed in an amazing apartment, which indeed I've seen advertised (pictures) in several sites. I am currently out of town, I will get you the info when I get back next week. chipscher Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/28/2003 1:27:24 AM   You should post some pictures of your trip! Maybe set up a site with geocities (it is free) and let us all see! Your Reply: Your name:   New Registration Password:   Forgot password?   refresh Code:   Russian brides > Main Forum > Check out this link and contemplate one's errors
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