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	Create New Topic   My Posts   My forum buddies   Invite friends   Private messages Russian brides > Main Forum > Going to Kiev for a few days Author Post gecko Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/25/2008 6:43:32 PM   beemer18. point taken and happy holidays for you too. listen, i'm only giving my experiences. the opinions are not mine but of the girls I have met and the advice I have received from various other women in the marriage/real estate/etc business. self respecting girls don't want to get gifts after sex. its actually a huge insult. i think this is common sense, no? ok. lets agree to disagree on this one. Mila Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/26/2008 4:13:28 AM   Gecko! Happy Birthday to you!!! Best wishes!!! Also, Merry Christmas dear members!!! gecko Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/26/2008 8:53:53 PM   thanks Mila. No hard feelings I hope. peteb Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/27/2008 2:45:12 PM   > peteB > > Do you look like the Fonz? :)) lol... the fonz is cool... :-) peteb Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/27/2008 2:49:33 PM   > If a guy wants to take a girl to buy something, its his decision..... > I just hope he doesn't come back crying about being scammed!!!!!! very true! actually thinking about it, i think i did buy olya a summer jacket (oh... it was 2 i seem to remember now!) after only being here a couple of weeks in the summer, because *i* wanted to... i wouldn't have cried 'scammer' if things hadn't worked out! plus we had been living together 24/7 since i arrived so it was hardly just after a 'first date'... lol gecko Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/28/2008 9:27:32 PM   peteb makes a great point. if you spend a week or two with a girl, and are having a good and sexual time, and she asks for nothing but your time, you know you have a keeper. on the other hand, if the sex after the third night is not so good and gets progressively worse, well, its time to go shopping! congratulations, you are now a sugar daddy. only this baby is not going to love you when she grows up! :) on a serious note, i had a girlfriend from kharkov who matched this pattern. meaning once it looks like the plans for the holiday in turkey were going to fall through, and it seems i discovered her true nature. if this has happened to you, trust me, you are not alone. Its good to hear success stories from some of the forum members though. it gives us all hope! ndfb Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/31/2008 11:56:08 AM   Man I have no idea who you are kidding. There is a problem with age difference. Anyone who says otherwise is not being realistic. Eleven years of difference? You are talking about whole different generations here. Thats a 25 year old dating a 36 year old. Can you tell me thats a lot of common ground there? Or worse a 35 dating a 46. So when shes 42 and in her sexual prime, your old self is tying a friggin popsicle stick to it at 53. Yeah, tell me thats not a problem. Im visiting Anya in Feb who is 35 and Im 36. The woman is stunningly beautiful and gets emails daily from 50+ very wealthy men as well as 25 year old kids. But guess what? Shes wanting plain, middle class me because among other things, we are the same age which is very important to her. We have common ground with our similar age. Plus I make her laugh which is extremely rare in Russian culture. And please dont make the mistake that they guy from Atlanta visiting her friend did and just show up with nothing. Russian (Ukraine but for simplicity, its Russian) culture dictates when you visit someone, you bring a gift, no matter what. It doesnt have to be an expensive gift but dont show up with just a smile please. In America, no biggie. In Ukraine, biggie. Dont start off on the wrong foot when you just get started. 5-6 letters really worries me here Stu. 5-6 letters is like 2-3 weeks. So basically, you are dropping $1200 for a plane ticket talking to a woman 5-6 times by letter? Have you called her and had decent conversations? As in conversations that have meaning and not small talk? My suggestion, make the trip a nice vacation. Its a big deal going there, few people really every get the chance to go there. Small percent so be happy that you are doing what the vast will never do. But Kyiv is AMAZING. The women are frickin the hottest things in the world. And meeting them are so easy. Remember, Russian men by far suck major. They treat their women bad and generally look like crap. I was amazed how a culture could have such phenominal women and such lousey men. Those Russian men transposed in America would never have anyone under 200 lbs, much less the hottest women in the world. Lucky bastards. But I regress... Honestly, think of it this way. Would you get great expectations if you had a couple of emails with an American woman? No you wouldnt. Emails are nothing, they really arent. Can this woman speak fluent English? Because if she cant, man thats tough. Hard to be in a foreign city, knowing no one, and the person you do know you cant communicate with real well. But there are a lot of foreign travelers to Kyiv that are real cool people. I met a guy from Britian on the plane and a guy originally from Iran that was living in San Fran when I was there and knowing someone to hang out with makes it a lot more fun. I mean keep this in mind, you could meet her, it not be what you think, and you find yourself spending a week in a city alone. So get on chat groups and meet people! Prepare for things to do IF it doesnt go well. Keep in mind that YOU are putting out the risk...your time, your money. She is just living normal life and having a dude come and show her attention and pay for everything. Not meaning to be a jerk but its fact. Imagine if a woman was flying to your city on her dime, willing to foot the bill on every single thing, just to meet you. You risk nothing but picking her up at the airport. If shes not what you like, what do you lose? Nothing. Now you are getting the point. So just enjoy your VACATION. See the sights and enjoy the women and I mean WOMEN there not woman! Make it a trip to remember! And if you do hit it off, great! Wish you the best of times my friend! Enjoy life and remember, its about the trip that makes life worth living and not the destination! peteb Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/2/2009 3:57:31 PM   > Man I have no idea who you are kidding. There is a problem with age difference. Anyone who says > otherwise is not being realistic. Eleven years of difference? You are talking about whole > different generations here. Thats a 25 year old dating a 36 year old. Can you tell me thats a lot > of common ground there? Or worse a 35 dating a 46. So when shes 42 and in her sexual prime, your > old self is tying a friggin popsicle stick to it at 53. Yeah, tell me thats not a problem. i admit you have made some valid points ndfb, but at the end of the day it's what works for the couple i suppose. probably about half the girls i have met here have boyfriends or husbands that are significantly older than themselves, so certainly here in kyiv it seems pretty normal. > 5-6 letters really worries me here Stu. 5-6 letters is like 2-3 weeks. So basically, you are > dropping $1200 for a plane ticket talking to a woman 5-6 times by letter? Have you called her and > had decent conversations? As in conversations that have meaning and not small talk? > My suggestion, make the trip a nice vacation. Its a big deal going there yep. agreed. 5 or 6 letters is nothing really. but then again if i had had the spare cash, time and balls to do it i would probably have gone to see a couple of girls from some dating sites after just that many letters. just don't expect too much i suppose. i ended up waiting over a year with i hate to think how many hours on the phone to my girl each week! in the end for me it was just cheaper to go and see her! lol anyway... have a great time... it's great here in kyiv, the new year tree will still be up, beer is cheap, the girls are beautiful and the gas still flowing! (sort of) /pete beemer18 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/2/2009 7:45:23 PM   > 5-6 letters really worries me here Stu. 5-6 letters is like 2-3 weeks. So basically, you are > dropping $1200 for a plane ticket talking to a woman 5-6 times by letter? Have you called her >and had decent conversations? As in conversations that have meaning and not small talk? To put it in percentage, I think 80% of a relationship starts after first meeting, so why spend so much time writing? If you think of how you met girls from your town, you see how important it is to be physically in front of girls....just a feeling you get....what is it they say....seeing a girl in front of you is worth a million words or when you see your girl, there are no words to describe it!! Just my thoughts.......... ragingbull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/3/2009 5:22:37 PM   Be careful in the Kiev subways, guys. I thought I was careful, but it was not enough. My wallet was in my front pant pocket. My camera was in the other front pant pocket. The subway was packed. I felt someone push me from behind. Going up the escalator from the subway I realized that my camera, wallet (and $1,025 USD) with credit and ATM cards were gone. peteb Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/4/2009 2:31:23 PM   yep, the metro is always packed. a few simple tips though: * always use a ukrainian style 'man-bag' with strap kept short (never keep stuff in trouser pockets or use one of those 'round the waist' type bags) * always keep your man-bag on your left side, as most people are right handed and makes it harder for someone to steal from your left, when they are behind you * left arm protecting your bag * right arm to hold onto something so you don't fall over in the metro! (though after a few weeks practice you don't really need anything to hold onto) /pete ragingbull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/4/2009 5:56:43 PM   I've been to Ukraine three times. On my first trip through the subways, I always had my hand on my wallet. I didn't go through the subways the second time. I relaxed this time and paid for it. Next time, I will take measures. It could be worse. I could have lost my passport or my driver's license. Fortunately, I separated those out. I was also talking to a Ukrainian merchant who lost $7K in China. Two men distracted him. His wallet was in a leg pocket. A kid cut through that with a razor blade. Your Reply: Your name:   New Registration Password:   Forgot password?   refresh Code:   Russian brides > Main Forum > Going to Kiev for a few days
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