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	Create New Topic   My Posts   My forum buddies   Invite friends   Private messages Russian brides > Main Forum > A Numbers Game Author Post Dunromin Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/31/2009 5:50:37 PM   Beemer: The living in sin remark was completely tongue in cheek. The point was, to be sure of avoiding divorce one needs to avoid marriage. beemer18 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/31/2009 6:01:09 PM   If not living creates a higher deivorce rate, it would seem that a trial run could reduce the divorce rate for those going on to marry. Adman, I think the articles are pretty clear that living together before marrige leads to a higher divorce rate...I can see how couples end up marrying after living together figuring it is next step or woman forces man saying either marriage or its over and guy gives in. If it is only up to guy, living together is great....no pressures of marriage, come and go as you like and the biggest reason...the milk is free. ;-)) About a year ago, I was talking to my friends daughter. She was telling me about her boyfriend, how she wants to get married, how they been together for so long.......so drawing from my wisedom on giving excellent advice, I told her that either confront him about getting married now or she will move on with her life!!!! I was so proud of myself!!! Couple months later, I see the girl...I ask her how confrontation ended up......she tells they are living together now, that this is at least one step closer to marriage. ????? Little did she know, the guy got his way or as they say.......got his cake and ate it too. How did the story end......girl eventually left...... beemer18 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/31/2009 6:13:19 PM   Are you advocating 'living in sin' since you are saying avoiding marrige is avoiding divorce. I did understand your tongue and cheek comment. What would you call a couple living together without marriage? I just think marriage shows a commitment, to not only your partner but to the community. And when when marriage falls apart and kids are involved, sad to say, they are the innocent victims. ragingbull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/31/2009 7:10:33 PM   Adman, all I'm saying is it's not necesarily contradictary. Look at its component parts: Living in Sin, Marriage. Not Living in Sin, Marriage. Dunromin Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/1/2009 12:20:51 AM   Quote: "Are you advocating 'living in sin' since you are saying avoiding marrige is avoiding divorce." No. What I am saying is that avoiding marriage is the only certain way to absolutely avoid the possibility of a divorce and so many get all pent up about possible divorce that in reality, if you are concerned about a possible divorce, you shouldn't be getting married because either you don't know the person well enough to take that step or you are too hung about the divorce thing to be marriage material period. Living defacto long term was never an option in my thinking. It was all or nothing for me and I took some convincing of the "all" because I was more than happy single. nasfan6 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/1/2009 10:45:40 AM   Dun excellent point Many guys should learn to live alone, and I mean truly live alone. After my divorce, I took two years off being just a guy. Doing all the things I wanted to do. To the point of not even looking for female companionship. I think many guys think they are failures if they don't have a woman in their lives. I learned more about myself in those two years. I think that was one of the more important factors in my search and success with my wife now. I wasn't in a big hurry, I treated it as a tradtional romance. I traveled to see her alot. I like you was very happy single. Then came a time I decided to take another look. Tried with a few ladies here in the states but our idealogy was far apart. I'm a throw back, I'm not a contemporary male. I believe in patriarchial leadership not chauvanism. It took some time to find a woman on the same page as I. Though it was well worth the time and effort. bowhunter Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/1/2009 3:58:23 PM   I see a theme here are the ones who take time to be single and just be themselves more successful I for one did enjoy being married I enjoyed almost every minute of it. I waited till I was in my late 20's to bad it only lasted 9 years. now that I have been divorced for about 4 years I am ready to try again. I don't meet any lady with the expectation of being more than friends and enjoying there company. so far I have had a great time and no disappointments. I even have a couple I would consider for a relationship ( time will tell here). Dunromin Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/1/2009 6:30:13 PM   Nasfan6 and Bowhunter: "Introspection" is a subject worthy of it's own discussion. ragingbull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/6/2009 4:27:18 PM   Your avatar tells a good story, Dunromin. But, for those of us who are farsighted, we must look real closely to see the rings and which fingers those sticking out are. peteb Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/6/2009 9:11:49 PM   well... me and olya are living together (in sin? ok... sure) and it's great. it's only been 2 years since me and my wife (1st and only so far) separated, so maybe i'm in no rush to jump into mariage again. also olya finds the idea of marriage pretty scary, i can't blame her really. having said that... i'm 99% sure we'll get married in a year or so. marriage does show a commitment, sure. but so does her wanting an english guy to leave his country and live with her, and for me to be willing to leave everything behind and live with her! we've been through so much over the last year and a half, the most scary thing might just be my dad meeting hers! lol /pete Texasdude Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/10/2009 1:55:18 AM   Peteb... Elaborate on your dad meeting hers...sounds interesting! Your Reply: Your name:   New Registration Password:   Forgot password?   refresh Code:   Russian brides > Main Forum > A Numbers Game
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