I've ridden the train from Kiev to Simferopol quite a few times. It can be very romantic and the highlight of a trip. If you want privac, of course, you can go first class. If I remember correctly that comes to around $150 per person ($300 total for car) but can actually vary according to the specific train you take (what time of the day).
A cheaper alternative is to buy all four seats in a second class car. A ball park figure for that is around $50 per seat ($200 for the car). And it gives you someplace to stow your luggage if you have a lot - in the upper bunks, so you don't trip on it.
Discovered recently that there is even a less expensive alternative - you can "buy the car" in second class at around $150. All that means is that nobody can intrude on you buy buying the other two tickets - but the lady in charge will collect two of the four bags of linen (which of course you don't need anyway) and you still have the privacy of your own seperate car.
Its very nice.
SOme of these prices may actually be a bit high as I am quoting from a time when it was 4-5 grienva per dollar. Now a dollar gets you 8 grievna.
And I might have been the one refered to by a poster who said somebofy paid more than $30 for a taxi ride from Semferopol. I actually paid $50. But again - that was when the grievna was around 4-5 per dollar.
Today at 8 grievna to the dollar around $30 is what you can expect to pay.
A little trick have discovered for localtaxi rides in Ukraine.
Taxi drivers aren't dumb. They know that if a man and a woman get in at the same time and the woman does the talking - the guy is probably a foreigner and the price can go up accordingly. It will work if the lady negotiates the rate while the foreign man stays out of sight - but that is a hassle to pull off each time just in order to avoid gettting ripped off. (There is even a story somewhere in this forum about some couple where the woman actually identified the guy as a MUTE - to explain hy he couldn't asjk the price in Russian. That's really far fetched.)
My lady and I had a flawless technique that is really efficient and simple. I would help her into the backset and she would immediately tell him where we were going. I generally took an extra few seconds to open the door and get into the front seat - by then everything was already taken care of. She probably just appeared as a slighly impatient lady. That's all. Its not a foolproof method in that the driver could still quote a high price to her - but that only happened once on my last trip. As I got in and shut the door I could see that there was some disagreement. I simply opened the car door again as if I was ready to leave - and amazingly the price came down (she told me later).
Take a flight from Kiev to Simpferopol. The taxi drivers will be waiting and they'll be delighted to take you where you want to go.
Go to Yalta its very nice. Should be less than an hour by car.
Alternatively...talk to Leon...he seems like an ok guy.
Anyone know if you can pre-book a flight "online" from Kiev to Simpferopol? Do they issue e-tickets or only accept traditional hard copy tickets? I ask these questions because I don't want to wast any of the precious four days she will be with me in Crimea.
jetmba, good advise on taxi rides!
Beemer18, Would you fly into Kiev and simply go to the different airlines ticket counter and "hope" to find an empty seat or would you try to pre-book this local flight? It's not another sexcapade this time I go with full intentions of visiting only this one woman. I hope it works out but you know as I do, that the chemestry must be present on the first meeting. If it is not then I'll simply wine and dine her have a nice vacation with a beautiful lady and "leave no meat on the chicken".
Kirk, I have thought about leon and he will be one of my contacts... I agree he seems like a straight shooter.
coop...go to aerosvit.ua/eng and book your roundtrip...prices are very good now, there is an adver for $28, not sure how to get that deal but you can get it for ~$76 for sure now. Just book for an e-ticket and go to counter in A or B to get paper ticket. wizzair is probably cheaper but times are not very good. good luck!!!
That was fast coop!! ;-)) You wouldn't believe but a couple years ago I flew from kiev to simferopol(aerosvit) ROUNDTRIP for $1 plus $23 for tax.....it was a february, so yalta was half empty but I enjoyed it without the crowds. I always check for discounts....in april I am flying kiev to odessa for $115 roundtrip, just missed the sale which ends end of march!!!
Zepplin,
I don't know the exact dates yet but I should know soon. I just need a firm commitment from my girl on when she can arrive in Yalta. She has told me that she could only spend a few days with me because of work and I understand a single mother raising a daughter in this situation. But If I fly all the way to Ukraine I'll be "on the prowl" for a few days afterward... we just might meet for that brew. I'll keep you posted!
You can book tickets online and pick them up at the airport.
There are apartment rentals in Yalta who will also send a car to Simpferopol to pick you up.
That sounds great, let me know! I booked early and the days were perfect for her. I got my full round trip from Salt Lake City to Simpferopol--with two stops at JFK and Kiev, for 809.00--I couldn't pass up the deal. My girl is picking me up at the Airport in Simpferopol and we are driving back together. This is going to be a great trip...it would be good to hook up with someone from this board. Let me know your plans.
The dates are finalized and the ex-communist, will stay with me in Crimea from March 12 through March 22. The only thing that bothers me is finding some nite life ... dancing and music. Is there any nite life this time of year in Yalta, Sevastopol or Simferopol?
Wow! It would have been great to meet you and your girl!!! But unfortunately me and my girl just went through a week of arguments and that pushed out the date of our meeting to 3/12 to 3/22. I did this just in case she went bonkers again. She is a redhead with fire in her personality and sometimes late at nite when we talk she gets on a roll and says things she regrets in the morning. I'm learning her personality swings and now I adjust to them as we all have to do with these high steppers. WoW she is sexy and beautiful and for once I go with no backup plan... other than Odessa is not far away!!! ha! ha! Hey Zepplin do you know of any good clubs to go dancing at?
'WoW she is sexy and beautiful and for once I go with no backup plan... other than Odessa is not far away!!!"
Cough, cough....I don't think odessa is as close as you think Coop. Only way to get from one city to the other is train or bus and 10+hours( taxi?). Back-up Plan?..... Sit and sulk???
Winter/spring is not time where you will find lots of crowds.
Beemer,
I just don't have time to put together some backup girls now, the other one I correspond with (very pretty) is 900 miles away in Russia! I'm saving her for the Summer but, I'm going out on a limb here... what the heck If it does not work out I'll have a nice spring vacation with a beautiful woman and I'll leave no meat on the chicken! The way I solve a bad situation is I just agree with them and talk about the most important thing in their life... them! Works most times!