shaz,
its not easy to get to kherson if you don't know russian or have a friend there as their are no flights that i know of going there. if she really wants to meet you, then i think she would agree to meet you in odessa or kiev. if she's not willing to do that then she's probably not that into you and its only an 'obligation' to meet you. when i meet someone i usually get a two bedroom apartment. one for her and her intrepreter and one for me. also you will pay for her intrepreter/friend. in fact, you might want to be proactive and suggest that. it will seem like your thinking of her.
Nick40, did you bother reading my post on last page....only postal addresses go through in letters, everything else is deleted.
It is not so much the site but the women you are interested in.... to tell which are sincere or not.....just a feeling you get and with more seasoning, it is easier to read a girl.
Fire I am sure there is a way to pay and get it just ask the admin at the site. Sumy is a smaller city but it can be interesting. the best place to stay is to rent from the polena agency. they also have a good deal on interpreters and can arrange transportation. enjoy Sumy I did. if you need more info send me a pm.
Nick,
Time for a test, ask her to help you get from Kiev (or Odessa) to her city, if she suggests her agency will provide a taxi (for a fee) go ahead and agree to it. Then a couple days later tell her that you decided to stay in Kiev (or Odessa) and ask her to meet you there. If she refuses, she is most likely a scammer or pro dater. I used this technique on a Sumy girl last summer. She was all excited and happy to hear I was coming, she planned it all, taxi (agency) ride to Sumy, interpreters from her agency, picnic trip to some famous place near there etc, etc. A couple days later when I changed the plan and told her that she would have to come to Kiev for our meeting... the shit hit the fan! Bottom line I think she was getting kickbacks from the different agency services that she tried to get me to use.
Mini Cooper: Changes of plan such as you outlined above will result in most FSU women (Scammer or genuine) telling you “where to go”. I understand your rationale but the methodology is simply painting you as a fool who can’t decide or can’t stick to his word. Further, I honestly could never get my head around guys having the gall to demand their lady travel to meet them. Certainly, I suggested it with one lady who jumped at the chance and we had a pleasant week which amounted to nothing much other than that, a pleasant week, but for the most part to demand she meets you in XYZ is a bit much IMO.
I strongly advise one seeks the “advice” of their pen friend regarding accommodation and transport etc but I equally strongly recommend the punter makes his own bookings etc. You’ll very quickly, by comparing her advices with other research, find whether she is pointing you in the right direction or steering your cash into her pocket via a third party. You will find that if the lady is decent she will work (and I mean seriously work) with you to find the most economical and convenient means of covering both.
Inviting her to stay with one in a neutral location gives the impression that one is expecting, more than expecting, her to sleep etc. with him.
Many will decline on that basis alone, that is something that should be decided once two people have met and not be pre-decided upon (by him) in advance.
sometimes i have rented a separate apartment for a women in kiev. more times than not, however, i have rented an apartment with two rooms. i think if you have been talking on the phone and you are both interested, she would agree to the latter.
There are two schools of thought here. Go where she lives or meet in another city like Kiev.
First meeting in a neutral city takes the pressure off of both people. Relax and enjoy the first meeting is going to be eventful enough. I chose to meet my wife in Kiev. Two reasons, one it's a very old and historical city and my wife enjoyed taking me to places and showing me her history and culture. Also it removes the need to agency services. Large city more competition, cheaper translators etc. We spent 5 days in Kiev then went to her home in Mariupol.
These ladies are under pressure from their family and friends for what they are doing. No need to bring some jerk to your hometown so your friends can see what kind of moron you've been writing to and talking to on the phone the last six months. My wifes best friend wanted to meet me. I still thank Lucia to this day for what she said to Larisa. Her and here husband have become good friends to me.
This isn't a sales presentation where you use techniques to close the deal. It's a human life we are talking about. I always wondered why guys went about this in any different way than they would in thier own backyard. It's easy to sift through the scammers. They will show their true colors early on.
There is no need for agency services beyond letter writing. Even then when you establish a closer contact with the lady, letter writing drops off and most of the time is spent on the phone. You are in control of your own destiny and dollars. If she won't do anything without the agency, move on to another lady that will. Be in control, the ladies like that. You chose your apartment, find your own method of transportation to and from her city. The real girls aren't looking for mama's boys who need their hand held in every decision they make. In the long run the ladies are going to look at you for guidance in their futures because most of them are going to move to your country. They don't need indecisive men to help them when they are going to need your support in future endeavors.
In short, remove the agency dependency, be yourself, don't make promises, don't use your socio-economic status as influence. Keep it all above board and honest and enjoy yourself. It will bring you great rewards in the future. The sex tourist kills us honest guys more than anything else. The ladies have the same bullshit to sift through that we do. Guys are scamming over there just as much as the ladies scam us. Girls are given empyt promises for a night in the sack. The good ones won't fall for this, then they come out and blister the guys for this behaviour and it hurts honest guys who don't approach it like that.
Figure if she won't meet you in Kiev or Odessa she's not into you. Meeting in her home town means she might be in the pay of an agency to get you there and spend money on apartment, restuarants, transport etc...all affiliated in some way to the agency.
That said; it's still going to be cheaper than a 2 room apartment in Kiev which would be more or less ideal.
In Kiev if you don't get on you can send her home and no hard feelins and go out on the town for the rest of the stay.
In her town you'll be stuck if she wanders off back home.
In any case no easy way to answer your original question in terms of meeting her given that if you're not sure where you stand with her then you can't be having much communication.
If that's the case my suggestion would be to get her on the phone and talking to you on a regular basis....it's one way to gauge her interest when you start talking about the meet.
IMO if you havn't got her phone number, email address or some means of communicating regularily then you haven't got her interest.
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