Actually it was my suggestion to meet in kiev since I couldnt be bothered to take domestic flight within Ukraine to Lugansk but it did seems she also like this idea because as she said she always wanted to visit the great capital city kiev.
It could be all innocent on her part not knowing this is same method scammers use to scam us foreigners but i doubt she didnt know as she was trying to get family friend to benefit from my visit by acting as her taxi driver in the first place.
If I took the taxi driver option then she wouldnt get the money until taxi driver arrive with her in kiev and then probably lead me like a dog on the lead to kiev shopping mall to trash my CC then depart and never hear from her again then i'm back to square one looking for another lady :(
these scammers comes in many disguises and sometimes I wonder why I don't just fu*cking find a lady in my own country
I've heard success stories of marriage from FSU but a long lasting one is very rare, take for example my friend who married an Ukranian? she arrived in his country but she don't want to stay with him in his home town and much prefer to stay and work in the capital city which is about 350Km from his home town so as a result they lived apart for most of the marriage and as soon as she got the almighty permanent residence she made up something against him to file for divorce(This I also regard as a scam not just the one asking to send money via western union)
...and so the vicious cycle begins again, my friend is back in FSU looking for another lady
About 2yrs ago, I was communicating with a lady from Nikolaev. After 7 months in communication I decided it's time to meet (we met in Odessa with me arranging the taxi thru website advance booking)
I was so disgusted with her behaviour, I cut the holiday short by 6 days and made my excuse packed my bags and head back home
I'll give you an example of these behaviours, on day 1 of our first meeting, we arrived at hotel, I opened door and took of my shoe and left it at side of the bed, she shouted "WHY YOU PUT SHOES IN THIS PLACE? THIS IS NOT YOUR HOUSE, THIS IS AN HOTEL"... I couldn't believe this agressive behaviours is coming from a lady i've been communicating with and getting along with by phone and email for the last 7 months
at restaurants if I ask a question politely with soft voice, she shouted back at me for instance in restuarant I asked if we are sitting at the correct table for a meal her reply was agressive like, "LOOK, LOOK WE HAVE CORRECT TABLE OK? DO U NOT SEE?"
I couldn't take anymore I packed my bags and left on day 4( had originally planned 10 days together)
maybe some people will say i'm not a man, i'm a musse for my rash exit :)
Recently I heard this is normal behaviour with FSU women, is that true?
It seems if you manage to evade the scammers then you land straight into the lap of the bad tempered or maybe it's just my luck
That was not a difference of opinion, Martin. You went right out and told me my posts did not belong there. If I put it there, it belongs there, in my opinion. If the moderators does not see it fit, they may delete it. But you will not dictate my posts. I think Beemer was just joking. If not, too bad. I was.
"Hi,Julian/ We can meet only in Kijev. Sent me SmS with cod for take money. Yuliya.(+38050856xxxx)"
Notice the operative word there, "take"
I stand corrected that she stopped writing to me.
xantia, this was a continuation of something I shared in another thread. This woman was very cozy of the idea that I meet her in her town because I told her it was impossible at this time. Then she suggested she visit me while I am in Kiev. I agreed. She said she would travel, bring her son and show me all the wonderful sites and history of the 'very old town'. She indicated she would come. Then in the bottom of the ninth she asks me to send her 180 bucks for the ride. And she would travel alone. You'd have to see the messages to pick out the many contradictionds. I told her I had arrangements to visit her because an hororable man should travel to see her. It was a couple days but she finally replied. Top line is her reply.
Xantia, I visited three ladies and none of them would talk like that. The usual procedure with the shoes is, they tell you to take your shoes off at the door. Nothing rude is said like "This is not your house." I did bring my shoes to the living room once. I knew it. The lady looked at me in the eye and pointed at my shoes. Nothing was said. How she talked to you at the restaurant was just plain rude.
Quote: “It is not really a scam..the guy does get some nice words from a girl, which he wouldn't get at home, for a few grand...they both get something out of it.”
Precisely! Fee-for-service. Chat service that is. What is different from the video girls who litter the internet?
It could be a freak coincidence but the lady I started this thread on is also called YULIYA. Just checked the first 7 digit of her phone number against one u posted above and it's different so my Yuliya could be different to your Yuliya
The way russians name their babies is very conventional, for reasons of cultural custom. Probably 85 or 90% of russian women are covered by about 12 names.
Because of this, there are literally millions of Elenas, Yuliyas, Olgas, Natalyas, Svetlanas, etc. etc.
This makes an interesting challenge: when I contact several women thru a dating site, giving them my "real" email, and then receive a letter from Tatyana... which Tatyana? Oy.
"Precisely! Fee-for-service. Chat service that is. What is different from the video girls who litter the internet?"
Answer....none.....It does crack me up when guys run around accusing girls of being scammers. They should be looking in the mirror and say what a fool I was and move on, chalk one up for experience.
Any middle aged man 'talking' with a young girl should be aware there is a 'slight'(hmmmmm) chance the girl is in it for some type of 'reward'. IMHO................
Actually, when I thought about it......I wonder how many guys suggest to meet a girl in another city to get them alone in their apt...and lets just say.....make it easier to make their move????????
Beemer I've used it as a way of getting thier undivided attention but would never do anything so crass as "making a move". You learn alot more about someone and how well you will get on when your in each others company all the time, chilling out together, watching tv etc.
True Devil, but I wouldn't meet a girl for the first time in another city. If I/we are interested in each other and would like to meet again, then what you say makes a lot of sense.
To meet a girl in another city and invite her....means you pay the bill of getting her there and back home...whatever that is...and if you think what she says is too expensive, find another girl
or just go to her city. I don't know if original amount is roundtrip or not. I know recently in odessa, the drivers wanted 3uah for 1km(~$.45 a mile)....I am talking a handful of different guys
Well, the bad tempered lady I met in Odessa in my previous post asked me why I do not want sex with her after day 4. This backed me into a corner and I made silly excuses like "I'm having man period"
Basically her bad tempered and bitchiness did not put me in the mood, it was a passion killer but I don't think she realise this
I appreciate your post. I assume that this is the same gal who was scolding you in the restaurant, as if you were a child.
Unfortunately, this seems more common among women "over there" than I am used to in America (to be more accurate, American women "bitch out" men they are close to -- Russian and Ukrainian women can do this to men they have just met).
For me, this is a very big turn-off. I like to feel like I'm the Man, you know?
Please keep letting us know how it goes, good luck!