Yes you are very negative. You don't know what we talk about. And you don't know about the live Skype around the house and the yard with me carrying the laptop with WiFi, you don't know about the movies we've exchanged back and forth about where we live (she knows where everything is in the house including in each kitchen drawer). You think people only talk, you are wrong. And you must not be that experienced with Skype; except for the physical touch, it is like being there. Maybe your web camera and internet connection is bad; having a nice camera and fast internet is very different.
But why tell you this? Tnx for the hidden wishes and no thanks for no suggestions.
Its not the same. You can switch off Skype and go back to your normal lives, when shes with you she can't, thats the difference, not quaility of camera or speed of internet. Not to say don't use it or its no good. But her life changes completely when shes moves. I'm not saying your not doing the right thing, just that once she comes THEN real work starts and often its little things that can upset her.
Everyone is different so suggestions don't work for everyone, I can't give you a check list of suggestions that will work. I don't know what kind of person your wife/girlfriend etc is and I have only experience with one myself. It does sound like your on the right track, but I don't think you know everything getting help from friends and family etc is a good idea and if you get upset with criticism your in for a rough ride.
Getting russian TV either via Satellite or internet and having Skype so she can speak to her family and friends are all good. Of course depends on the girl, what you have to do is understand her and place yourself in her shoes and understand what it is like to live in different country.
There is merit to ben2006's arguement. Until the feet are on the ground and reality sets in then it becomes real. Preparation is what it is prep. The world in the US is diametrically opposed to life in the FSU. My instance I don't live in an area of public transportation. I had my wife take driving lessons in Ukraine first because I knew in Indiana all she would have to do then is come take the test and a driving test and she could get her Indiana license. Indiana also recognizes an International license for one year which she got before she came. Better than having to start with a learners permit and doing the whole thing from scratch. She was mobile from the moment she stepped on the ground and not land locked to the house and waiting for me to take her somewhere. Check your state laws out first.
Get a garmin for her in Russian, makes traveling easier for them. Simple things we take for granted we must look at in a different perspective. Place yourselves in their shoes if you moved to their country.
I just realized something - after almost an hour this morning and then almost three hours this afternoon, she still needs help with English. Sure conversational English is fair. That is why I have been looking on newegg and amazon for GPS devices. I never thought to get one that was russian language. I know it will be a necessity. Never thought of russian langauage version -- must expand search .... good idea. Where I live it's tough to even get a cab.
"Elena's site is also advertised in Kiev newspapers. I don't know if it still is."
"too bad Julian left. he wanted me to say something. but I refuse to make comments on stupid remarks on his behalf..."
Am I wrong or can I put two and two together????
Don't worry Ralph, you put out the puzzle and I will interpret for u!!!!!!!!!!!!
There IS a present and past tense in english language.....very confusing when not used properly
That confused you, Beemer? Yes the is should have been a was, just like the baffoon should have been buffon and apparantly should have been apparently. What other meanings did you derive from that?
"oh! I forgot, that's why elena's models works. forget the silly name of the site. I thought it a ruse at first. But there are real women there who are looking for a real man. It is not a place to be thought of as a backup plan. Because to be successful you must put in the time. A back up plan sounds like someone who is just hoping to get lucky and when discovered as such...
{BACK UP PLAN? (J35)}"
You don't believe in back up plans, Ralph? That was an advice for others. Not you.
On a serious note, I do agree that the hardest work starts when you get your girl here. All your previous time together is when YOU were on holiday. It is nice to talk about all the many things you will/might experience when girl gets here but nothing goes as planned, improvisation is the norm.
How many people here if after winning the 10 million dollar lottery would say "I will be the same person I have been for years"? You will only know how things will be when you are put in that position!!!
What is this talk of a 'real' women.....when you meet this girl and she is same as in letters...that in my mind is a 'real' women.
English was not my best subject
English is not my best subject
Thanks for trying RB, I try to proof read for spelling but also to see if what I am saying makes sense also. I think the reason guys here have told you to keep on topic or you don't make sense is because it happens so often in your posts and then you begin to get in disputes with anyone that
says so.
I don't know you personally, you sound like you are giver and maybe a romanticist but from your posts you don't sound very bright, sorry, these FSU girls would and have used you(first 2 girls) and taken your kindness as a weakness. Just my thoughts.....
Please don't tell us about some girl at the store or at the church smile at you or getting fixed up with some philipina or getting paid to marry a girl....WAYYYYYY to personal, this is not a diary for your thoughts.
Beemer, there were only two people who told me to stay on the topic. One of them was you. Our dispute when that happened stemmed not from that, but because you made a comment on my girl. I'm over than now. Two of my major disputes were not from that. I will agree I am totally stupid if they were. I do not see them as such and still do not see it that way. The type of poems that should be in a thread called, "Ukrainian Poems"? Was the Orbitz post totally stupid? OK. I hope it's over now. Let us not beat it to death.
Here's one for your class, Beemer. One sentence can take seven different meanings not because of tense or punctuation, but because of the word emphasized during speech. I was just listening to a CD on speech.
I didn't say he beat his wife. (Original statement)
"I" didn't say he beat his wife. ("I" is emphasized. It now means someone else said it.)
I didn't "SAY" he beat his wife. (I implied it.)
I didn't say "HE" beat his wife. (Someone else beat his wife.)
I didn't say he "BEAT" his wife. (He did something else to his wife, but not beat her)
I didn't say he beat "HIS" wife. (He beat someone elses wife.)
I didn't say he beat his "WIFE". (He beat someone else, but not his wife.)
"Please don't tell us about some girl at the store or at the church smile at you or getting fixed up with some philipina or getting paid to marry a girl....WAYYYYYY to personal, this is not a diary for your thoughts."
Beemer, I never told anything about a girl smiling at me at the store or getting paid to marry a girl. The girl smiling at me was at church. I was offered marriage for money several times, but I refused. I understand what you are trying to say.
the point 'I' was trying to make is that during your (my) initital visit it was recommended to have a 'back up' plan. But to suddenly out of no-where decide to use EM as a back up plan is not a viable option if you are looking for a life partner. If someone is real and wants to establish a relationship/repoir with someone, chances are you will not get a serious woman to meet you out of the blue. THAT IT IS WHAT MEANT ABOUT USING EM AS A BACKUP PLAN. "Hello (lady's name)I am in town, I see you are looking for a husband. Meet at McDonalds at 6 PM....????
True story, a few years ago I met a lady on match.com. We had been corresponding and having a few phone conversations. We decided to meet. But it had to be a wednesday. Okay then it is Wednesday. We meet and have dinner. She was looking at her watch frequently. It turns out Wednesday was the day she met two or three men. And funny that this behavior is not atypical of American women.
I am constantly reminded that she will totally depend on me. That she is taking a bigger risk than I am. And we both acknowledge that what we are doing is ten times more difficult than a couple from the same area will have to deal with. Believe me that we have discussed many things and small details. We both know that it will take a lot of work and committment to make it work. And that yes, everything will change dramatically when we are stuck under the same roof. That is why it is very important for ME to make sure she is not bored out of her skull. And that she is also a big part of everything. Sure she is going to redecorate part of the house. I am providing a window treatment catalogue etc. But anyone who thinks that it will be the same as when you were sending emails, skype etc should take a step back to think about it. It is the same as any woman and man from anywhere. The rules change - many things change - when you are living under the same roof.