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	Create New Topic   My Posts   My forum buddies   Invite friends   Private messages Russian brides > Main Forum > all ready to go ! Author Post Harvey Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/12/2009 1:48:50 PM   durak, I am not sure if you contradict yourslef. Mmaybe semantics... But you say that I have 'broadcasted' I am a an american then you reveal you experienced such tactics. And say you have not after 140 days over there? Dude, you accused me of beineg less than descreet and that it was the cause of my experience with the local scams. Then you reveal that your experience was not just related ti Kiev, where this is about, and then say that yes, you have experienced such ruthless behavior. Make up your mind about it. First you say you have not been tested, then you say you have... durak Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/12/2009 1:55:10 PM   My only hooker anecdote ... about a week before my wallet got boosted in 2007, I was strolling down a sidewalk, feeling awe at the city's beauty (that's how I spend most of my time in St. Pete), when I notice a 30-ish gal about 5 meters in front of me (we were walking towards one another), who actually smiled at me. This was the first and last time I experienced this in the FSU! People there DO NOT SMILE to strangers. While not especially pretty (by Russian standards), she was really cute. I returned her smile, and she responded by calling out (we were still some ways apart) loudly enough for at least a few nearby to hear), "yoo vant a leetel seks?" I followed my "no thanks" with the best belly laugh I've had in all of my times in the FSU. For any reader who loves St. Pete, this was in Preobrazhenskaya square. I can't think about this city without longing to be there (during the short season of mild weather!). Armin(Bonddd) Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/12/2009 2:15:16 PM   Ralph29 what an aggressive young man. I know at least 3 ways of wallet scam and people say there are more than 10 variants. I just meant if you can share some information then share it. "Don't pick lost wallets" is just a phrase without any argumentation. Asking this question I expected you to explain why it is so dangerous. And I wasn't expecting that aggressive barking. If someone needs I can explain the "Wallet cheat" and its variants, though it's one of the oldest but still popular not only in Ukraine. Ragingbul, was it just a reason to tell something? Harvey Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/12/2009 2:26:49 PM   looking back I can see that it was perhaps a gesture to incite an explanation of dialogue on the subject. But why just throw out a question that seemed to be contemptuous rather than agree and explain such circumstances yourself? ????? ?????? Why come across as someone who opposes a statement if you agree on the statement? It looks fishy. durak Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/12/2009 2:29:14 PM   ralph, I don't know why I didn't yet run into the cash-drop scam, maybe I'm just not observant enough... The time I was shaken down by the cop, I was talking on my mobile to a friend in America. Probably, that drew the cop's attention :) As to wallet (and purse, and mobile phone, and camera) theft, the thieves don't seem to discriminate much. The locals are tormented by this too, almost anyone you ask can tell you such stories. Even being habitually careful, they are sometimes victimized. Kyiv versus the other cities... the criminal culture seems (sadly) to be very thoroughly spread across the Russian-speaking world. Kyiv is probably better (safer) than the other two cities. I read numerous warnings about police shake-downs in Russia, so I was surprised when my only experience of it was in Ukraine. In any case, I expect that typical American guys on a first visit to the FSU are going to stick out like a sore thumb. Our faces, clothes, gestures, mannerisms, volume and intonation of speech (that can be heard even when you can't make out the language), posture, rhythms ... the things we pay attention to, the things we ignore, etc. etc. will almost all be unusual. On my last trip, I was walking down hill toward Independence Square, when I noticed a middle-aged guy walking up, with a young Ukrainian lovely at his side. My instant impression was, "this guy has USA written all over him," and I assumed that he was yet another sap looking for romance there. Well, I met him a couple of days later; he makes his living off of saps looking for romance there (I gave him some of my money), and the young lovely might have been his wife :) He has lived more than a decade in Ukraine, and he still stands out as a foreigner. Harvey Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/12/2009 2:43:36 PM   durak -- seems as though you ran into brett from Kiev connections... Westerngent44 -- I hope you are getting all of this. GeminiDreams Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/12/2009 3:49:06 PM   Im sure I dont look Ukrainian, especially in winter walking around in a jumper when everyone is in coats, hats and scarves however at least once a week I get stopped and people ask me directions. I used to shug and say sorry I dont understand but now I can usually tell them and they look weirdly at this guy with the wierd Australian accent and rush off. beemer18 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/12/2009 11:17:43 PM   Durak, I do believe that St Pete's IS my favorite city to visit, I've been there twice and have seen many of the sites yet there is so much still to see. Part of reason I have not gone back is the planning involved to get visa and the biggest is the fact I don't look anything even resembling a russian so the police continue to stop me nearly evey block to see my papers, its a hassle for me and if I have a girl with me. I don't venture out past 11pm very often....... Your Reply: Your name:   New Registration Password:   Forgot password?   refresh Code:   Russian brides > Main Forum > all ready to go !
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