If you're a good looking and polite guy, looking at a reasonable age difference, then providing you're not merely concentrating on 10's (ish) then you shouldn't have trouble, after putting the legwork in, finding a lady in FSU.
On the other hand if you're ugly and/or an obnoxious son of a bitch then you'd have trouble attracting any lady of any race and of any country, I'm not suggesting that you are these, just explaining the scenario.
But if you're particularly looking for an FSU Asian then you're most likely to find her in one of the 'stan' countries. I have only been to one of the 'stan's' and that was Uzbekistan, last there 8 years ago so I can only talk of 8 years ago. Then a reasonable salary in a country such as Ukraine would have been, I guess, $200+ per month, in Uzbekistan it was $30 per month so you might understand that the people cannot afford computers, internet etc.
You're making your task difficult if you decide to go the 'stan' route but if you did you'd avoid the stampede's of guys all flocking to Ukraine, they are all in 'dog eat dog' competition with each other meanwhile you'd be toddling off all by your lonesome to one of the 'stan' countries.
However, Kazakhstan (one of the stan countries) is more modern. I have a few friends from that country who have computers at home. But unfortunately none of them is Asian looking. They are all hot blonds/brunettes.
And am I mistaken in thinking you stated you were coming to Ukraine this month ? And we'd perhaps meet in Kiev ? Or was it somebody completely different who said it ?
I ask because I'm in Kiev next Friday [26th] with my girl at the Brit Embassy for her Interview and Bio data. We're trying for a UK Tourist Visa. Anyway, happy to meet up at McDonalds or TGI Fridays in Kiev with you, or anyone else who's around then.
You paint an amusing picture.......”go the 'stan' route but if you did you'd avoid the stampede's of guys all flocking to Ukraine, they are all in 'dog eat dog' competition with each other”
You are, of course, fully aware of how large Ukraine is ? Largest Country in Europe not counting Russia ? And all that ? You're aware too that the latest estimates puts the ratio at 54% female ? And total estimated population at around the 47 Million mark ?
Even knocking Babushkas, married women, Scammers and women absolutely not interested in a foreign man off the list, that still leaves an awful lot of women, many many millions in-fact, in a huge country. And keeping this amount in mind, exactly how many foreign men do you think/estimate to be actually here in Ukraine ? I've lived in this City of around 250,000 people since August and I've only ever met one other Brit, back in early November. I socialise my arse off here, and am keen to meet other foreigners, but it's a giant “nee et” on that score, but I'll keep my eyes peeled, honest, and let cha know if I spot one !
Come on Holmes.....”Stampedes” - “Flocking” - “Dog eat dog” Lets keep it real, and not frighten fellow FSU partner seekers into not coming here, they're battered enough, and all “competed” out from within their own countries.
Are you serious that you believe, aside from Russia, Ukraine is the largest country in Europe?
As soon as I read it France sprang to mind but Greenland and Turkey are larger than Ukraine also.
However, compared to the size of the USSR, where Russian etc. ladies are located, Ukraine remains tiny in comparison.
Flocking, stampedes etc. OK I said it tongue in cheek however before Ukraine relaxed their visa requirements guys on forums such as this discussed all different FSU countries, their travels to them etc. Soon after the visa relaxation, I noticed it had started, such forums discussions became 90% talk of Ukraine and perhaps only 10% the rest of FSU, just go through this forum alone to verify, so much of the talk is "Ukraine, Ukraine, Ukraine" and Ukraine women have this well figured and are using guys for their shopping trips etc.
Where do you think the commonly used expressions "Russian" ladies, mail order brides, whatever, came from, because before Ukraine relaxed their visa requirements the majority of guys travelled to Russia as would figure bearing in mind it's the largest country!
It's interesting what you're saying about before Ukraine relaxed it's Visa regs guys on here didn't speak of UA that much, or even select it as their No1 destination to visit for their possible FSU partner, I wasn't aware about all that, I'm a relative “newbie” I guess.
Of course it's true that the FSU is mammoth in size, and any number of countries within it could contain a Western guys possible future wife, not just Ukraine. I have not been to any other FSU countries [yet] but I understand how vast it is, and that gorgeous, wonderful women are spread throughout. Having said all of that, I can certainly understand why Ukraine seems to have become more and more guys focus country, simply because of the whole “don't need a Visa for 3mths” thing, it's what tipped it for me when I began my “journey” back in 2007, who wants to faff around with Visa applications, and fees, if it can be avoided ?!
Parting ways with you on the size issue thing though, it's Ukraine [not including Russia] I knew it already but, just searched good old Google before I wrote this and, site after site, information after information puts Ukraine clearly as the largest country in Europe. And the mighty Russia as the largest in the entire world.
Ok, there's clearly two Googles. I'm using Google for grown ups, check yours and make sure it doesn't have a Panda Bear icon in the left corner, lol. Or maybe your Google is the Politically Correct version ? This search engine has been developed by Google specially for Western Governments, it throws up information that is favourable to the West and it's political agendas, therefore doing a simple search on this Google for “The largest country in Europe” could never reveal, correctly, that Ukraine is the largest country, just not in the interests of the West now is it.? ! Questions would be asked, how can the citizens of the largest country in Europe, and such an important country in terms of Gas transit and trade, be so restricted, and in many cases denied, travel to other countries by Western Governments. ! Better for the West to have a special Google search engine that states Greenland, Turkey, France or some other country as the largest in Europe when such a search is made, their citizens move freely throughout the West, embarrassing questions avoided. I suspect that's the Google your browser is set to, after all, you are searching Google from within the UK, yes ?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I have heard a whisper that the British Government has asked Google to develop a Google search engine specially for the UK, when anyone does a search on it for anything British, only sites and information to do with Africa, Jamaica,, India, the Muslim faith etc are displayed, along with further information on how people from such countries can claim their “Asylum” and rightful “benefits” the second they arrive on UK shores, but, like I say, just a whisper is what I've heard. Stay tuned though, I'm sure it's on it's way !
Regards.
Snow here is beginning to melt, at last, it's been here 3mths. I don't see any obvious drainage around, so not sure where all this snow, once it's melted, is going to drain off to.
Sir Daniel, you have Ukraine at 54% female. That gives them an 8% advantage (54-46%) over males. Assuming everyone who could in Ukraine found their male counterparts, that would give 3,760,000 females without partners.
It was once posted here that even though it is true that the numbers are that staggering, the females ages 30 or below actually outnumber the males. Of course that places females over 30 at a greater disadvantage. This would also place a great number of scammers in the websites because most of the women there are under 30.
Do you believe this is true? I don't.
By the way, it was me that said I will be in Ukraine in a month or so earlier this month. That was before I talked it over thoroughly with my gf. It is rather cold in Ukraine right now. I have been in Ukraine three times, all in winter. Therefore, we are waiting until it warms up a bit, so we can have more activity and I can see more of the greenery.
I think the OP is talking about the girls from eastern territories or former territories of Russia. Some of these girls have a mix of physical characteristics that are a little hit or miss. When they hit they are very easy on the eye.
I’d question the integrity of a man who considers attraction towards Asians to be a “fetish”
I get the feeling he’d pretty soon just follow his urge to the next amusement.
Most of the original post smacks of sex tourism. Meaning the further east, the poorer the circumstances. Less likely to scam and less likely to be choosey.
Court a poor girl via the internet, swagger into her humble town, have your way with her and jet off again.
Sound familiar?
@Kirland
Well, your feeling is wrong. I hope now you feel better ;). After rereading what I originally wrote, I think I could had chosen better words. Instead of "fetish", I could have just said that some white guys prefer asians girl. I know plenty that do which makes it that much more difficult for me. I just wanted to know on people's opinion if asians girls (in physical appearance) are less sought after in FSU.
Don't we all want the girls to be less choosey and less likely to scam? I certainty do. After reading about the many horror stories here, I hope to learn from other people's mistake as well as the positives they achieve. I'll admit I don't consider myself a good looking bloke, but the possibility of finding a better life partner in both beauty and character than I could otherwise in my country is too tempting. I think that is why many of us are here. For me, women that can speak Russian and other foreign languages like Chinese, Korean, etc opens up more possibilities as their children inherit the language.
Where do you find Asian girls? In the FSU? In the UK? Where do you find UK girls? South America maybe?
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Learn geography, dude...There are plenty... As someone mentioned above, they live in Kazachstan, Uzbekistan, Tadzhikistan and such. As for personal traits, I know a little about them since I have just a few friends from that former republics. Some of them are just the same as white girls, but mostly they grew up with philosophy to respect husband ... In figurative meaning it "wash his feet and drink water after that"... I bet dozens of you guys will jump into that "field" after my words... Well, just I told you - look closer, they might be the same...
Kazakhstan - ah yes, 'My sister was voted third best prostitute in all of Kazakhstan!' -Borat
And let me tell you what a lacing I took when I recommended to my future wife to watch this movie. I thought it was funny. Well people from Kazakhstan or whose family is from and still livers there -- it was not funny at all. Let me tell you --- I was afraid of her from 5000 miles away!
She is not a blond and if given the right Halloween costume could easily pass for a Muslim type. Yet she is a classic brunette beauty. It is a shame that Ukraine has become the focus of so many men. Because if you wanted to meet someone, really put in the research, there are very many Russian ladies who will blow you away. Not only with looks, but extremely intelligent and just very cool regular people.
"I've tried telling guys that so many times but they seem too tight and lazy to apply for a cheap visa!"
Well, martin, how many years was it before you finally set foot in Russia? What was that, just last year? :-)
Can't speak for everyone but yes, visa is a hassle and getting constantly asked to see my papers led to me not bothering going back to russia. Too tight? Well it is cheaper for me to get to Russia than to Ukraine!!!!
I first set foot in Uzbekistan, twice, and I have the visas to prove it, thereafter I set foot in Ukraine and I have multiple Ukraine visas to prove that also, yes we did need Ukraine visas in those days, thereafter I set foot, 3 times on business, in Latvia however Latvia was then EU so not even a stamp on the passport required, and then Russia, visa required, since then I have been back to Ukraine, , more than once, not for 'dating' reasons but that's as far as I'm prepared to discuss that particular subject.
So, where have I ventured to, for FSU romance reasons, that didn't require a visa at the time I ventured there?
And, if in any doubt, and where the bl00dy hell is nasfan :) , he'll have some Ukraine visas in his passport also ..... perhaps they'll be worth something on Ebay one day :)
I am aware of your exploits Martin, I am only speaking of first time(last year)I read you speaking of guys only going to ukraine( not russia) and infuring that the reason is because of visa...and now you speak of being tight also.