Computer for kid is emotional blackmail, Ukraine women have access to internet and a home computer is probably comparable to a colour tv when they first came out to these people. If she wants it for her kid that suggests she has her own and if thats the case she would have a good standard of living by Ukrainian standards. Sorry but these women will use their kids to play you. Howether dont think all Ukrainian women think in Ukrainian they are becoming very westernised in their materialistic attitude and she may be sincere. Small town girl or city girl it dont matter they all scam over there, its a question of tollerence and working out sincerity over bullshit, best advice is offer to buy one and send it, ask her what sort she wants, if she says top of the range toshiba with windows 20 and a billion gb hard disk shes on the take.
Gordon,
What you have come across is a woman. Women asking guys for money, is a normal part of life everywhere and always has been.
I learnt a lot about this while I was married for 19 yrs, unfortunately I was a slow learner and so the learning of the lesson came late.
Since my divorce some years ago Ive been asked by women for a Ferarri, a Mercedes, laptops you name it. I did buy one women a Maserati (matchbox version), but that was as close as any of them got.
The thing is, I didnt breakup with any of them over it. I see it and they see it as a game.
The good thing in your situation is that she has given you the opening salvo now. I did read on the womens forum, a women saying "she waited until they were married before confronting him about him being stingy".
I agree with several others here, that you canceling 2 trips has brought this to the head. She has now thrown you a little tester, to see if you are real. Kind of a put up or shut up. Possibly fare enough too. Key point here is to take responsibility for what you get.
Now what? Run away?
If it was me, Id have a little fun with it. Id throw it back at her in a fun sort of way.
You could say something like "Jeppers!! we havent even met and you have big ticket items on your shopping list. Whats life going to be like when the 2 of you are living with me in the States :-)" Dont forget the smiley face.
Be interesting what she comes back with, you could have some fun kicking it back and forth.
Women are always going to try it on one way or another. If you can handle it with you own style of humour, I think you have a much better chance of success.
da-svee-DA-niya means 'until meeting', and so is best fit to situations where an future connection is expected
prashch-EYE means 'farewell' (here 'EYE' stands for the long-I sound, as in 'skY'), and is more suitable when the parting is expected to be permanent (prashch-EYE-tyeh if you don't know the person well, or are adressing more than one, 'tyeh' standing for the sound in the middle of 'brighT YEllow')
For the original poster -- In the first post, when I read about a gift, I thought, "well, that doesn't sound so bad to me," and thought to suggest bringing a gift when you meet, instead of sending money. But when a second post specified that the gift was supposed to be a computer -- that is outrageous. I am confident that you did yourself a favor by crossing her off your list.
Begger cannot be a chooser. Sorry, but this lady is a scamm. As the other folks mentioned before me, honest russian|ukranian ladies would never beg for money, especially for a comp. A smal present is to be expected for a kid's BD when personal relationships are established between man and his woman and personal prior meeting has took place. Just as a sign of personal attention|participation to their life, but nothing more. Take my words forward and move on.
As for a word "dosvidanya" it does not really matter. She will understand the real meaning soon after that.
Amazingly or not, my husband, a fiancee at that point, had similar situation when he found a girl through an agency and after 5th letter she begged him for a computer as well. He had the same thoughts just like you now:"Why should I? I barely know her..." He'd been advised to move on and so he did. I am happy that scamm caused to break up his "romance" and find me, who never begged for anything and never had attempt of doing so.
"da-svee-DA-niya means 'until meeting', and so is best fit to situations where an future connection is expected"
Yes...and no, it does mean that a future meeting is probable/forseeable...or more to the point, it is not the last time to see each other. It is a nicer way of saying bye...as in good-bye as opposed to 'pa-KA' which is bye.
Actually Beemer (do-svee-DA-nya) до свидания means good bye. If you take it apart до means until and свидания can mean visit, meeting, rendezvous, date, or appointment but together it replaces our good bye. пока (poka) literally means while or in this sense see you later or after while.
However if poka is said with high emphasis on the po and little or no emphasis on the ka that means you are done buddy.
My interpretation of this story is that the girl was perhaps serious to start with but after you changed your planes to go see her twice she has written you off as a time waster, and after that decided to see if she could get some money out of you.
You have to realise that the mindset of FSU women is to always assume the worst motive consistent with the facts (i.e. that you failed to show twice)irrespective of anything you might say.