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	Create New Topic   My Posts   My forum buddies   Invite friends   Private messages Russian brides > Main Forum > MyPoppet.com scam? Author Post Kirkland Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/18/2010 5:38:32 PM   I'm still waiting to know how much the trip to Moscow cost Mr Dale. If indeed he actually went. Rag'n'Bull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/18/2010 6:22:07 PM   Kirkland, I've just got around to actually reading one of those testimonials, I'm pissing myself laughing, have a read of this and, like me, you'll probably ask "WTF" :) http://www.mypoppet.com/testimonials.html Mike W. May 20, 2009 I'm about to go on holiday with one of my best mate's and although I'm looking forward to going and having a good time, I am feeling a bit angry with myself for letting him sort out everything Let me explain — we have been talking for ages about going away on a holiday and discussed a few potential countries we thought we might like. Every idea I had he shot down straight away saying he had either been there before and did'nt like it or he had heard something bad about the place to throw me off track. Of course, the destination he picked he thought was perfect and although I was genuinely hesitatant about going there as I thought it would be a bit too loud for my liking, I ended up giving in and booking the holiday with him. I tried to discuss my concerns about why I might not like the holiday he picked but he just calmly replied saying 'No, you'll be alright'…and just dismissed my comments as nothing to be overly concerned about. Sad as it may sound, I know my friend will insist on the window seat on the plane (on both flights) and also the window seat on the coach transfer to the hotel when we arrive over there…this annoys me…not because I'm as desparate as him for the window seat but because there is just no room for compromise or negotiation with him and lack of thought for what I might like. I also have a gut feeling he will try to be quite controlling with this holiday like only eating and drinking in bars and restaurants where HE likes the look of, not what I might like to do. He does have form from a previous holiday a few years ago I went with him on so I know how his little mind works by now. I'm just glad we've got seperate rooms as I can always go there for a rest and be hassle free for a few hours without him constantly going on. Just to add insult he told me the other day I should try and make sure he gets up for breakfast each morning as he is the type to lay in until lunch time…I dont see that as my problem. If he lays in and misses breakfast then thats his tough luck not mine. He won't be stopping me from getting up and doing my own thing and I'm determined not to be bullied when we get there just because he wants to do something. He is also not the type who is easy to talk too and gets very defensive easily if he thinks I am picking holes in him, should I chat to him before I go that he and i should be able to do our own thing? Or should I keep a lid on things until we get there and then do my own thing? Obviously I dont want any arguments to ruin both our holidays Date_Dale Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/18/2010 6:33:12 PM   @Kirkland I spent about $5000 during my 7 days trip to Moscow including air tickets. Moscow hotel prices are high – about $300/day for 4* hotel. I also used interpreter services ($20 per hour). Restaurants, cafes, etc. I must say that Moscow is very expensive city. Date_Dale Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/18/2010 6:47:53 PM   Very funny testimonial :) It seems that Mike's wife posted it. The website stuff has a good sense of humour or a bad content manager ;) AnamCharaid Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/19/2010 4:34:06 PM   Smart Martin, I've heard both sides of the coin about Jim's so called lists etc and I'm keeping an open mind. There is a pending court case against Dream Marriage and others for scamming I believe, which I will watch with interest. van derman Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/20/2010 9:37:52 AM   I have lived in dnepropetrovsk for the past 2 years and have recent moved back to Holland with my wife from dnepropetrovsk.The ladies value family ties very highly and do not want do get involved with men that involve travelling long distances. Ukraine women like to travel home to visit their ma and pa. So for this reason men from Australia are out of consideration as husband material. The Ukraine ladies are very receptive to right men from Germany,England,Italy,Holland.All within 2 to 3 hours travel time from many euro airports. gecko Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/20/2010 2:50:44 PM   what did you do in dnepr for two years? if you don't mind me asking van derman Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/20/2010 3:13:49 PM   I have parts import business in Holland that employs 2 people.I could delegate from ukraine and I also did regular journey between schipol airport every 8 weeks.But now I permanent in Holland. Mini Cooper Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/20/2010 11:52:48 PM   Van derman, I have a wonderful Ukraine fiancee that want's come to USA and does not care about Germany, Italy, Holland and the rest of the other second class countries... most Ukrainian women want a "better life" in a rich country not these second class countries, understand? Rag'n'Bull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/21/2010 1:19:48 AM   No such country as Holland anyway! durak Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/21/2010 10:53:39 AM   Whoa, Mini Cooper. Is such the hospitality of this forum, that we belittle our guests? 1. It seems to me, that most single Ukrainian women want a "better life" in Ukraine, with a Ukrainian husband who will love, provide for, and take care of them and their children. As in many countries, lots of people take pride in their country, culture, and sense of national identity. They have deep sentiment about the towns and villages of their extended family (and thus, of their childhood). They are comfortable with the languages and foods that they have known lifelong. Often, they maintain deep connections with and reliance on their extended families, in ways that have become much rarer in the US during my lifetime. Of course, there are many exceptions, but I suggest that most Ukrainian women feel this way. For those who wonder whether family is so much more important over there ... two women (one by correspondence, and one in person) told me that they would not want to live in America, unless they could sponsor and support their moms to come also. 2. Some of the women who look for husbands from other countries, are simply attracted to a particular country or culture, love travel in general, want a better material lifestyle, or want better prospects for their children. It is my impression that a big proportion of serious marriage-seekers would prefer to stay in their town if they could, but have become deeply discouraged about finding a good husband locally. 3. For those women who are pretty comfortable in the environment where they have lived their lives, and who like to make frequent and long visits with parents, grandparents, aunts, uncles, and cousins, Europe has two huge advantages. As van derman observed, it is a short and fairly inexpensive plane ride to go back home. By contrast, the I know three Ukrainian women here in America, who respectively see family (a) never, after more than 10 years; (b) about twice every 3 years; and (c) one month back in Ukraine each year. For women who are used to family connections as part of everyday life, this is an ENORMOUS WRENCH. The second advantage is possibly just as deep: the culture of Ukraine is relatively European, or at least, it is as close to European as any of the historically Russian lands. The cultural contrasts to America are vast, and maybe hard for some of us Americans to understand. A Ukrainian moving to almost any part of Europe will find attitudes, patterns and rhythms of life that are fairly like home. By living in Europe, they can have lives that comfortingly familiar, but with much better medical care, and without the pollution, endemic corruption, and street crime of their homeland. 4. Second class countries? It depends whom you ask. A Ukrainian woman I've known for years, who lived in the US more than one year, once startled me by saying, "I don't understand why anyone would live in the US who could go to Canada." I met a Russian woman who likes France very much, saying about that people have a simpler lifestyle there (small houses, simply furnished, not much appliances and 'stuff'), and in exchange, spend much more of their lives with family, enjoying simple pleasures, vacations, the beauty of nature, etc. There are things about American life that we natives hardly notice, because they are so familiar. For example, that people who don't live in one of the very few big city centers with good transit systems, lead lives that are dominated by the automobile. Or going to public places and witnessing the grotesque waddling of people who have become huge jelly-bowls of fat. Or living in giant houses, driving giant vehicles, carrying giant debts, watching giant TVs, and working about 400 hours more each year than most people do in western Europe. Luckily for American bastards like me, there are certainly good women who are willing to try to adapt to such a different life. And there are some (like a very sweet Russian girl I know, who adores Elvis Presley ... or a sweet Ukrainian for whom Mary Kay is not only her business, but almost a religion ... or my Russian friend who adores southern California) for whom America is the land of their dreams. Muzzy Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/21/2010 12:03:06 PM   I've found that different women have different attitudes. One girl had almost no family left (all died, some recently) and had no kids, so I think she was up for moving anywhere. One was interested in "anywhere except an Arab country", whereas one was obsessed with Beijing (although had never been there). I've met plenty who told me they'd worried about meeting an American or Australian due to the distance, although most were (as others have said) concerned about being too far from family, but many have had no such concerns. But then, it would be silly to assume that 20 million women would all have the same attitude now,.....wouldn't it? About the 'second class country' remark, it's perhaps worth pointing out the UN Human Development Index ranking of quality of life: 1: Norway 2: Iceland 3: Australia 4: Canada 4: Luxemburg 4: Sweden 7: Switzerland 8: Ireland 9: Belgium 10: USA (widely available, but this info taken from http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/eco_hum_dev_ind-economy-human-development-inde x) Kevin64 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/21/2010 2:27:33 PM   Speaking about MyPoppet.com: Well, I spent 7 days in Moscow using MyPoppet agency. Their service was good. Their staff was friendly and professional. But I have some complains. They will not give out the phone numbers of the ladies for free, but if you are a little creative you can get it if she wants you to have it. They wanted to get me too meet as many women as possible, because it would have put dollars in the coffers but I met only with 2 girls and I was pleased. I understood that the culture is the biggest problem to deal with. I advise anyone who is serious about a Russian woman, to learn Russian language. I like their services though I spend a lot of money on their website. But it worths. Rag'n'Bull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/21/2010 2:56:28 PM   Muzzy, Luxembourg, correct spelling :), is/was the world's richest country, for a double cartilidge operation, on the state, I was told to expect to wait years for the op in UK, I went back to Luxembourg and had the op within a fortnight. That said, it has to be one of the world's most boring countries, 40% of the country's population are foreigners amd, despite the high class of living, leave after circa 3 years due to boredom. Luxembourg was great for doing a pub crawl in 4 different countries during the same evening but even the novelty of that wore off. :) Rag'n'Bull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/21/2010 5:51:25 PM   And something else about those 10 countries you list Muzzy ..... they're all above mean sea level unlike much of The Netherlands, i.e. both Amsterdam and Rotterdam airports are below mean sea level and one drives up an incline, from the motorway, to get to Rotterdam airport, one get's the impression it's on a hill yet it's still below mean sea level! Muzzy Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/21/2010 6:50:26 PM   Hey, no-one said any of those places were exciting. Conversely, a friend of mine who did two tours of Falluja said it was far from boring... durak Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/21/2010 7:24:02 PM   If you live in a country where it is common to have your purse, wallet or mobile phone stolen ... Where it is usual to lose heat and/or water in your home, at any season of the year ... Where the price of bread rose by a factor of 3 in a short time (roughly, from 2004 to 2007) ... Where your currency recently lost more than a third of its value ... Where your grandparents probably survived (if they were the lucky ones) perhaps the greatest succession of waves of mass murder that any generation has seen anywhere ... Where you read in the news that your president discussed on the telephone, eliminating an unfavorable journalist "outside the law" -- that journalist having soon after been murdered (2000) ... Where a more recent candidate for president was poisoned with dioxin (2004) ... Where your country's intelligence agents made an armed raid on the offices of your country's national gas company (2009) ... That ranks 123rd in the world for life expectancy (141st for males) ... Then maybe the boredom of prosperous little Luxembourg, seems a little like heaven. Rag'n'Bull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/21/2010 8:17:07 PM   Durak, Sure, Luxembourg was heaven, very low taxes, best state healthcare in Europe, very pictureous, hairpin bends within the city centre, and 'us' expats had a great social scene such as our annual beach football competions (now go figure where you'll find a beach in Luxembourg :), it was a great life, paid bucket loads of money, couldn't possibly spend it all ...... but the novelty wears off, it becomes boring to thousands of expats who decide to move on after circa 3 years. But one things for sure, the Dutch shall never be short of water. :) dcv Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/28/2010 8:17:31 AM   Kevin where is the agency based? Kevin64 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/29/2010 10:43:18 AM   @dcv Agency is based in Moscow. Your Reply: Your name:   New Registration Password:   Forgot password?   refresh Code:   Russian brides > Main Forum > MyPoppet.com scam?
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