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	Create New Topic   My Posts   My forum buddies   Invite friends   Private messages Russian brides > Main Forum > What percentage of men actually get on the plane? Author Post Rag'n'Bull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/5/2010 4:02:59 PM   Durak, By reports 2 out of 3 engines failed yesterday, the 3rd engine did some coughing and spluttering but kept going. The fuel supplied has been checked and declared as 'good fuel' but it's too early to start pointing fingers at what happened yesterday, I'm reading what I've read from an aviation forum. The later TU-154's are getting old but there's a heck of a lot of older sh1t still flying in FSU, by reports the Tu-154 is built like a brick shithouse, much the same as Douglas aircraft were built to last, and that serves in the aircraft's, and passengers, favour. But check out the ages of some passenger Boeings, some passenger Airbus's, still flying, circa 25 or more years old. Rag'n'Bull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/5/2010 5:37:56 PM   And Durak, For that Izhma (short field) landing they, also, had no flaps so it was a high speed touch down aswell as a short strip with no brakes, I only know they had reverse thrust because pictures of the aircraft show the thrust reversers to still be engaged. With regards to yesterday ... individuals are speculating regarding crew, namely the flight engineer, error regarding failure to select fuel pumps etc. Well, once upon a time, I worked an LAX to London flight, 3 engined aircraft, as flight engineer, yes I've done some fun things during my time, a flight engineer LAX to London (whilst the real flight engineer was asleep downstairs), I've doubled as a flight attendant between Sydney and Melbourne, as an aircraft marshaller (during a strike) on a Greek island etc. etc. etc, and a flight engineer's main function is to monitor gauges including fuel flow gauges, I have, in my time, known of one flight engineer who neglected to fuel an aircraft before departure, that aircraft subsequently landed on fumes, but not to notice fuel pumps not selected, well ..... durak Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/6/2010 11:33:12 AM   A link to some photos of the crashed Tu-154: http://news.mail.ru/incident/4914074/gallery/746101/ A s usual, remove any spaces in the above address. Clicking on a photo moves to the next one. It is a wonder that so few died. ______________________________________________________________________ _______ Returning to the topic... I agree that we shouldn't expect a woman to be very impressed because we made the trip. Some of them obviously don't care how much expense or effort was involved. On the other hand, as so many western men travel to Ukraine (a topic often mentioned here), if you go to some OTHER Russian-speaking country, your visit may be rather more special. I think it likely that when I went to Russia in spring to make a first meeting, it was her first time that a foreign man traveled to Russia in order to meet her (her home town is not one the places that tourists etc. usually visit). But when the meeting takes place, the "chemistry" of attraction will still be vitally important. To those who can understand this attraction before meeting in person, I am very impressed, and don't understand it. When I spend an hour or two with a woman, I take in physical impressions -- about her health and vigor, the way she moves, her skin, how she cares for herself etc. -- that I find are very important to my sense of whether she is someone with whom I could have romance and become a couple. Isn't this likewise true for most women, that they must experience him in person, in order to understand the possibilities? Getting on the plane is no guarantee with the ladies. But it DOES guarantee that you will learn something! And I can guarantee that if you DON'T get on the plane, you're not going to make a meaningful connection, and your time and money with dating sites and agencies is just so much low-grade entertainment. Rag'n'Bull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/6/2010 12:57:01 PM   Durak, The Tu-154 Captain has informed the investigators, to the effect, that he's pretty damn sure that the fuel froze, this would serve to indicate that the anti freezing additive hadn't been added to the fuel but were that the case then why were other aircraft not affected! ragingbull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/6/2010 2:24:04 PM   It must have been awfully cold. I just looked at the freezing point of jet fuel. It is at -40C or -47C depending on what type of jet fuel. I must tell my story again. I told it before. Ukraine trips are always memorable, and my experience at Zaporozhye Airport made it more so. We were greeted at the parking lot with about seven dogs, mostly German Shepherds, obviously malnourished as their ribs were sticking, out and probably abandoned. It was snowy and -10C (15F). Their toilet was outside and it was below ground. You had to squat. I had to postpone my #2 and held my breath for the number 1. The flight was delayed 6-7 hours. The plane, with propellers, was on jacks the whole time. I did not see anyone working on it. Then again, I did not go out that much either. When we finally boarded the plane, and had the engine started, I applauded and the other passengers followed me. After about ten minutes, the engine stopped. That can't be good. A mechanic went up a ladder and closed the engine compartment just below one of the propellers. The engine started again. This time, I did not applaud. After about another ten minutes, the engine stopped again. The mechanic went to the other propeller, opened both hands and appeared to saying, it's already closed. The flight arrived in Kiev with no other incidents. I got to know a couple of passengers who knew English. We hung out in the restaurant/bar. Because we were speaking English, I suppose, the waitress mistakenly served me and another guy, instead of the two Ukrainian men who ordered Borsh. My companion and I just looked at each other and shrugged. I did get a taste of the shot glass. It was about eight in the morning, and I couldn't believe they were serving vodka. After that was straightened out, I decided to try their borsh. I guess I expected too much. I did not enjoy it as much as it was hyped. It was later explained to me that it was November and the normal engredients were not available. Rag'n'Bull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/6/2010 3:06:39 PM   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bu_dyFALdM&feature=channel Rag'n'Bull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/7/2010 8:11:24 AM   Another one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwywfVK-mXY&feature=player_embedded # Harvey Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/7/2010 12:46:07 PM   I thought this was about the percentage of men who get on the plane to make the trip. Not the percentage who survive a plane crash. ??? Since this has gone south, and speaking of planes, "...a date which will live in infamy." FDR I still have the original newspaper from that event. My mom kept it and she would make us take it to school every year for show and tell. Too bad it wasn't just kept in a frame instead of being passed around to all the kids. But it is still in fair shape. Any offers? Rag'n'Bull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/7/2010 5:30:57 PM   But Ralph, Despite getting on the plane that doesn't mean to say they're going to make the trip! Please excuse a little factual reporting that may isnspire others, or not, to make the trip. P.S. England thrash Australia in second Ashes Test :) Australia's Ashes hopes are in tatters after their last-day capitulation at the Adelaide Oval allowed England to take a crucial 1-0 series lead. Resuming at 4-238, the hosts lasted only 20 overs before falling at 11.27am for 304, with Peter Siddle the last man out, giving off-spinner Graeme Swann a five-wicket haul. The result, a loss by an innings and 71 runs, is Australia's first innings loss to England since the Boxing Day Test of 1986. ragingbull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/8/2010 12:05:11 PM   How come the people on the crash were on the plane? They got on the plane. I wonder how accurate the 5% is. Statistics can be misleading depending on how it is done. I believe it was Elena form EM that said one out of twenty people get on the plane. If that's the case, I wonder how she got the numbers: industry wide statistics or just her site? If it was just her site, then did she count the ones that left her site and visited after they left? ragingbull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/8/2010 12:38:19 PM   Let's say that the statistics were done industry wide. The survey was done with a few websites. A man that went to several sites and eventually went, will he be counted several times as someone who did not go and one time that he went? I believe that the percentage who go on a plane are low, but I don't know if I believe the 5%. If the survey was done in this manner, it could be higher. durak Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/9/2010 2:29:08 AM   rb, my guess is that measuring this would accurately would be difficult, and that nobody has ever seriously tried. As long as the websites and agencies are making money, why do they care how many men go? To me, 5% seems possible, because making the trip is a much bigger investment (in several dimensions) than corresponding on the websites. And I'll bet there are thousands of day-dreamers who just browse the sites without ever making contact. The fantasy side is a lot easier than the reality :) baron555 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/9/2010 8:58:58 AM   Ask the ladies how many different men they communicate with and how many of those have taken a trip to visit them? Probably around 5%. ragingbull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/9/2010 10:21:20 AM   That's possible Barron, but the accuracy of that is worse. Asking in general would be alright, but trying to get accurate numbers from a lady would not be apppropriate. Assuming a lady kept such a record, which is doubtful, will she tell you such numbers? Assuming you were the only guy that visited her, will she tell you that she talked to nineteen other guys? Should she? How about if you were the fifth guy that visited her? "Oh yes, Barron as a matter of fact, I kept count. I talked to ninety five guys that didn't show, but four other guys did. You are the fifth." ragingbull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/9/2010 12:27:04 PM   "Of the four, I only had sex with two of them. But I promise, Barron you are the best!" Sorry, Barron. I couldn't resist that one. ragingbull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/9/2010 5:45:46 PM   Well Danny, because of the low percentage of men visiting, I believe the ones that go hold the cards. I communicated several months with a lady who knew English well in Zaporozhye. She decided we were not a match and I did not protest. When I was having problems with the girl on my visit, I called her to call the girl. I did not think she would mind. It was her that I could have visited, but she did not know I would actually go. Remember, I left this girl I visited in the middle of the night because our relationship was going nowhere. Anything unkind the girl had to say about me was expected. Although their talk was brief, maybe one or two sentences, the girl from Zaporozhye had unkind things to say about the girl. She was jealous because I visited another girl. baron555 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/10/2010 8:57:25 AM   I do know that my wife received many many Expressions of Interest during her time on EM; she gave me access to her emails. I know that she had some correspondence with about 5 or 6 men besides myself. I do know that I was the first to go visit her, she told me. And I was the only that ever went to visit. I trust her and she was the only woman I went to visit and she trusts me. Actually we are both grown adults and don't care about the past; I understand immature child-like folks giggle over these thoughts. ragingbull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/10/2010 10:16:30 AM   That's not 5%, barron. Not even close. She is lucky that you turned up. What were the chances of you and two getting married? If you did not, and she was intent on finding one to marry, and we were to assume the 5% was accurate, she would have to correspond to about 33 or 34 other men to find the next man to visit her. What if she did not like that one? Who would keep such and why? You said 5 or 6. She even lost count there. ragingbull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/10/2010 4:37:41 PM   Who is worrying, Danny? It is just knowledge about what the women go through to get someone to visit. I am a numbers person. I notice and wonder when people give out statistics like the 5%. Perhaps not in this case, but many twist numbers to further their agenda. Yes. I believe one should go visit. Rag'n'Bull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/10/2010 6:34:14 PM   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzWCmyGqulQ&NR=1 Your Reply: Your name:   New Registration Password:   Forgot password?   refresh Code:   Russian brides > Main Forum > What percentage of men actually get on the plane?
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