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	Create New Topic   My Posts   My forum buddies   Invite friends   Private messages Russian brides > Main Forum > finding and meeting a lady doesnt have to be difficult or expensive Author Post nasfan6 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/18/2011 7:30:08 AM   Kirkland I see you're still trying to be an erudite tool as usual. ragingbull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/20/2011 1:23:12 AM   Of course I believe in Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny, Nasfan. I also believe that you are happily married and are in this forum to help others do the same. Kirkland Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/20/2011 3:53:42 PM   Erudie…yes indeed. I’m happy to be described as such. And tool too…useful. Tool is often used as a derogatory term where I come. from but I’m sure you did not mean it like that. I believe you are not one whose sole purpose here is to post derogatory statements towards other users. My beliefs also extend to those mentioned by RB above…if you get my driftwood. A.L. Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/21/2011 8:32:32 PM   Hey Danny41, after spending approx $200 on behappy2day.com for emails, i'm wondering if this is really worth it. I was reading your posts and it seems like things are working well for you and was curious as to what site you used. I'm new to this dating opportunity and just trying to figure out if this is hype and a waste of time or the real deal. BTW, i'm not 65+, so i dont think i'm being unrealistic. I'm 33 years old, 6'2 195 lbs, and dont have a problem finding women, just ones who value starting a family and not "ho-ing around". ragingbull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/24/2011 4:33:11 PM   I for one do not understand this money thing. What is the worst thing that could happen if you send her money? What is the worst thing that could happen if you don't? Isn't it the same? "they live 30 years without your help" They can probably live 30 or 60 years more. But if you consider her a loved one or a future loved one, how can you not help out now and then? Harvey Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/25/2011 6:52:37 AM   I suppose it is the same a feed the children, sally struthers will send you a photo of a child who can be fed for just two dollars a day. The worst thing that can happen is that you are out a few thousand bucks if you send her money. The worst thing that can happen if you don't send her money is to spend it foolishly another way. ragingbull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/25/2011 12:28:49 PM   That's not what I had in mind. Either way, once it leaves your hands, you the money is gone. The worst thing is you don't get the girl. ragingbull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/26/2011 1:10:59 AM   Have you ever had a kid, Danny? That is why you feel that you do. As Kirkland says, her kid is the upmost in her mind. Not me. I know that and I understand that. Yet, I have chosen to be with her and to help raise her kid. If I am just a source of money to her, then my purpose is served. You must have read some of my postings. Yet, you ramble on with your opinions as if I had not posted anything. Did I not say that I don't believe it is her in the date site? Without explanation to the contrary, you post that she should not be trolling the dating sites. I PM'd you that I had other alternatives. I posted that if I go to Ukraine, I will have back ups. I have posted that I am not in love. Why would you post that I am worried that I might lose her if I don't send money? Why would you post such things? To further your argument? That's what Nasfan would do. one reason is once you start sending it doesnt stop. Her kid does not work. When does her needs stop? I am close with her kid. I feel that she wants this relationship to work. Remember the girl in Zaporozhye that I said was trying to contact me after so many years? I feel a big part of that is my relationship with her son. second reason ... you will never know if its your money she wants or you (this is the most important reason) There is no way she cannot want me if I am good to her kid. The only problem is my limitations. Besides, there are other ways to find out. third reason .... she is only my girl for 9 days together - That's about how long my girl and I were together. So? forth reason.... she shouldnt need your money She now works outside her city for work and only comes home one or two days a week. She should be with her kid. I wish I gave her more so she could. 5ive ....if you send her money you might not have any left to go visit her for 2 years Then, it would be over. I tried. having a russian girl is expensive and it costs large money to travel , visa ect. The only way this can fail is if she or I give up. six ....who wants a women that ...wants wants wants wants .... not me We all have our wants wants wants. how many days have you been with your lady in person rb ?......how much money have you sent in two years ? That I am not going to answer. I am uneasy about answering these questions to begin with. I think this becomes too personal. Now I have a question for you. Why did you offer to help me out if you felt this way? beemer18 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/26/2011 9:25:12 PM   I don't normally agree with danny( it is a rarity) But it hits the nail firmly. Why make excuses to send a girl money? As I was told long ago, a girl (somehow)survived life before so why do they need help now? It goes back to scamming....men sending$$$/writing$$$$ to girls because they are lonely and think they can get a young/er FSU girl.....then cry out afterward that some girl is some scammer. Gift giving/sending $$$ is just promoting the scam business'. To those realistically looking for their partners....it takes plenty of time and money and did I say 'realitic expectations'. I don't care about competition but I am sure many guys should be glad there are scammers/gold diggers/insincere girls out there.....it keeps competition down. Can you imagine how many guys from all those western countries coming into FSU if the scammers were nil? ragingbull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/26/2011 9:47:18 PM   I don't see it as an excuse and I don't want someone I care about to merely survive. What do you know about anyone's realistic expectations? You have your expectations, I have mine. I would answer your scam statements, but it doesn't apply to me. I know what I am sending, what for, and I do not expect anything in return. ragingbull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/26/2011 9:51:23 PM   How about you Beemer? Why do you make excuses for NOT sending money or gifts? ragingbull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/26/2011 10:44:01 PM   How complicated Beemer's life must be. He knows how to be realistic, he knows about scammers, about giving gifts, competition..... but he has no girlfriend!!! ragingbull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/27/2011 2:30:06 AM   Hey Beemer. Go find one of your relatives, a little girl. Tell her she's just an excuse. You won't? Neither will I. ragingbull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/27/2011 1:58:07 PM   I want to help raise someone's child. If our relationship fizzles, I will be alright. I have survived 50+ years without her. Why do you feel that I am naive? I have no illusions on what can work and what cannot or will not work. Danny, Beemer or anyone else, I do not believe the intensity of your arguments that I should not do it, and still call yourselves members of the human race. I enjoy that child. I talk to her. I chat with her. You are telling me I should not do it? There are things people do wrong. Murder, steal, rape... and my crime is I want to help raise a child. You might call my gf a whore or a buy wife. So what? Your definition of what that is is different from mine. Will the relationship work is the real question. Sooner or later your money has to come out. Did someone in here say that if these women had the choice they will choose FSU men? Isn't part of their decision one to escape economic hardships? How can you separate me from my money or my country? It is all a part of me and who I am. ragingbull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/27/2011 2:02:58 PM   In case you still don't understand, I made no promises to her and she made no promises to me. I expect nothing except what is coming to me. ragingbull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/28/2011 11:11:20 AM   It is you who doesn't understand. It is my life and it is my priorities. You see the world different than me, and you're trying to make me live my world as if it is yours. My priorities are they get a comfortable life. My visit is secondary. If I don't visit and I did what I did, it will be alright. That's not the plan, but if it happens, so be it. Again, you make things up to further your arguments, as did Nasfan. This is what I posted. "In case you still don't understand, I made no promises to her and she made no promises to me. I expect nothing except what is coming to me." How is that giving money for relationship and sex? I didn't answer your bit about how much I have given her. Here is a clue. I have not been able to lately. The last two times were in September when the little girl had a birthday and Christmas. I used to see my daughter a lot. I have not been able to give her much and now, I don't see her much. Does that make her a whore? ragingbull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/28/2011 5:32:43 PM   Again part of me is my help. When and if we two get together, I have some work for her. I never understood your arguments with Nasfan. I read about 5-10% of it. I did not know what it was about. All I know is it was hitting below the belt when he and his friends made fun of Irina. I do know that Nasfan will add to his stories and make stuff up to further his arguments, the same as you are doing. If both of you did that, I now understand how it escalated. lonelyranger1701 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/5/2011 3:05:25 PM   Rb, I only read part of this thread, and I did not learn about, how well you know your girl, or even if you have met??? If you have met her, and you think you can trust her, then you are the only one who can decide your own path! Even after saying that,, you should still be careful!! They are very good at lying!!! On my first trip of this millennium,,, (gosh damn that makes a guy feel old!!) lol ,,, in Odessa my second city, I started talking with a guy I believed was from the US,,,, he had a slight Italian accent? He sent 26,000USD to his girl in Odessa,,, he was there on his forth trip to see her,,,,,, for the first time yet!!?????? He arrives in Odessa, and she refuses to see him!!??? I just shook my head and said;,, How do you know your girl is a,,, girl?? It could be some old guy sitting behind a computer in his underwear,,, smoking a cigar, sending you pictures of his daughter!!??? Dude!! You could be sending love letters to a Dude???!!! His face turned snow white!!! If you haven’t met yet,,, then just don’t send any money,, at least not any substantial amount!! I know how you feel!! You see someone in need and you want to help!! They have such tough living conditions, and you want her to be comfortable! There is nothing wrong with that,,,, if she is sincere!!???? That’s the biggest (If) there is!! The term they use for us,, foreign men is “Cash Cows” I personally prefer, walking ATM!! You say; you want what is yours or what’s coming,,,,,,, (I’m not online now) and if you don’t get,, “it”, then what?? If she is sincere,,, and starts to feel that you only want one thing from her, she could start to resent you??!!! I could easily see her taking your money up until you are ready to fly over,,,,,, then,,, having a legitimate reason,, in her mind, as to why she doesn’t want to meet with you!! You say she has a daughter??? Maybe the best thing for the two of them, is a home, husband, and Father??? ragingbull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/7/2011 1:42:51 PM   Lonely, I have chosen my path, as you say. It is my path and I, not anyone else will own my future. I have weighed the consequences. I am ready to face the worst and also the best. This is not a do or die thing. It's not like I have not been heartbroken before and I can't take it. Yet, people here sees me as a punching bag, telling me how to take that path. I see others here with similar stories that have sent or spent much more than me. Much, much more. Still, I am their target. I have met her. People loved barron's master plan and it included not sending money to anyone you have not met. This includes people who have given me crap. I followed barron's plan. The only exception I made for this was travel money. I sent her money for hotel, train fare and to fix her phone. I could not call her for a couple of weeks before I went to see her because her phone was broken. I did not want to land in Kiev and could not call her. People looking for something to bitch at will say she lied about the phone. I know because I posted that before and someone did. I saw the phone, and it was broken. She did well with the money I sent her. She accounted for every penny that I sent her although I did not ask her to. R SOUL MAN Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/7/2011 2:38:38 PM   Avoid Russia ,I returned from there last november the girls are not interested in leaving there unless you have a large chunk of money.But they will let you buy them lunch, dinner then vanish Your Reply: Your name:   New Registration Password:   Forgot password?   refresh Code:   Russian brides > Main Forum > finding and meeting a lady doesnt have to be difficult or expensive
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