I just want to be me. I am not out to give anyone wrong advice. There are opposing views. Those seeking advice can choose or question. Why would that anger anyone?
Ralph, you say you point out that I don't have a clue. There are two examples that you point out. The first is my recent discussion with Danny. Why, weren't you there when Danny and I were at it? All I got from you was the "boo hoo" in another thread. How is that pointing it out? The camera, I already explained, but this is the first time you said anything about it. That was in the parcels thread.
Of the four cameras I sent, the second one was probably a scammer. I responded to her second letter to me. The first letter was sent six months before, but I was in correspondence with the other lady. I was ready for my second visit to Ukraine. It was Christmas when I sent her the camera. In January, I told her I am ready for a visit, and I got the ticket. She didn't want me to visit her. I had to find another lady, quick.
Outrageous? Inconsistent? Which part? I told that story before. Don't ask me to look for it.
Here's one. I asked Danny about this lady, but I think he's having problems with the storms in Australia. I am just guessing, but this one, I think you just don't believe it. I posted one of these websites a couple of times before, and each time, in another thread, you post what an imagination I have. But I just found another website. This one, using Yahoo instead Google.
She was my first Ukrainian date. I spent a week with her. She cooked for me. She was the one that had the soapy water in the toilet. She was the one that I left in the middle of the night. She now hates me. I called her a few times since then and she hung up on me each time. I had the lady that I sent the first camera to call her. She hung up on her too.
Remember a thread called Ukrainian Poems? One of the times you got upset with me was pasting a sad poem over there, when the OP was asking for romantic poems. What can I say? Noone was posting in that thread. That poem is this same song she is singing that I had translated.
This time, I will offer proof. I have pictures with her. She posed for me. I didn't offer this before because the picture in one of those websites is when she was younger. To me, she does not look the same. Just PM me.
Wierd lettering, but the website works. By the way, she is also the lady that let me stay in her apartment for free and I bought a microwave for. She was working as an usher or admin of some sort in a theater when I visited.
Ha ha ha... In an upside down rationalizing sort of way, you are very lenient and don't give people shit. I expected about as much, but I was expecting you to comment on her blonde hair and dark eyebrows. Two of her profile pictures on globaladies were the ones from the other website when she was younger plus a few more like it. That other website was what I got. I think she's good looking. Not great looking, but that's not what I am looking for.
Botox? I don't think she had much money. I paid for everything - our dates to the ballet and the restaurant, the taxis, the buses, groceries, drinks. I still have the CD she gave me of her hits -19 of them. I think she is a very good singer. I can listen to her over and over again for several days and not get sick of it. I like that music you have on youtube too.
I left her because for two days, I wanted to talk about our relationship. She would not and kept postponing. I didn't think it was good because for the first part of my trip, she would hold my hand and take pictures with me, and she no longer wanted to do that. She was never bitchy. She always made sure she cooked and I had enough to eat. I only had three days left in Ukraine and I met only her.
I wrote more about her in the recently resurected globaladies-scam or the real thing thread (now on the forum second page) and I wrote about the second camera lady on the also recently resurected globalladies.com thread (now on the forum third page).
These days, you can't tell what ladies real hair color is. I do know if the lady has dark eyebrows it doesn't necesarily mean she is not blonde. I do recall one instance when the lady was blonde, but her hair elsewhere was dark, and I don't remember the color of her eyebrows. She was my gf for about a year, so I'm sure she did not color her hair.
How will you know that a lady bleach color her hair or she has a botox look before you visit her? Will you ask her those things? From my experience, the lady's pictures are when they are younger. You will get something different.
If you go to a restaurant, the ballet, the wax museum, take public transportation, you won't pay for it? You go dutch? From almost everything I read in this forum, from Elena's book (Elena's Models), from other sites, the man always pay. It's not much different from my dates in the US. The only other thing that I paid for was the microwave. That's because I felt guilty about staying with her for free. I would feel guilty doing what you are doing and not pay for anything, Danny. Let us know how it turns out.
I did say goodbye. We just got home from the ballet at 10. Then she went to bed right away because she knew I wanted to talk. When she went to work, she usually was home at midnight. I asked her three times to talk. I asked her several times during the day. I was hyper, being in Ukraine and only had a few days left. I had jet lag and spent a sleepless night the night before. It was midnight when I said goodbye. She called a taxi and went with me downstairs. She made sure I had a jacket and a hat on.
Danny, again you read it wrong. I wanted to talk about our relationship two days before I left. It was not after two days. I sensed something wrong, as she no longer wanted to hold my hand and take pictures with me. I wanted to talk about how and where our relationship was going, if it was. If you read the other threads I mentioned, while I was there, an interpreter told me that she asked someone else for an engagement ring.
I don't care what you like, Danny. I do care that you call these blondes ugly. That's a terrible thing to call a woman. One of the things I have been telling my gf is not to wear too much make up. She resisted at first, but after a while, she showed signs that she likes the idea. Yes, I like blondes, but hair color is only one of the things that make a woman. If a woman colors her hair of not, it will be just fine with me.
It's great that you will stop worrying about how much money I send. You must have seen how much crap Nasfan and Beemer gave me and you followed. My promoting scamming is a lousy reason. Call her scammer or whatever you want. Dishonesty is one of the things I detest. My gf knows that, and honesty is one of the things I will teach her daughter. I also told that to the woman I visited in Zaporozhye when she was trying to communicate with me.
I would have felt guilty if I left Alla without something after staying at her place for a week. She took some days from work for of me. I can't explain it, but you are just different. It's not me to go to the ballet either, but it's not just the show that was good. It is also dressing up and going to a nice elegant theater. They say the FSU have the best ballets in the world. We went twice at a bargain. The first one cost $5 a ticket and the second, $10. I did offer Natasha to go to the ballet, but she wanted to go to the club. The show was good there too. It was funny. The performers were cross dressers.
Well, Danny. One must pay rent or mortgage and utilities to their dwelling. When that person is well off, I would not pay anything either. But, if they are having a hard time, I would. Many times we go to Hawaii to visit relatives, not only do we not pay rent, they throw a party for us. Alla took a few days off and took me around Kiev. I know that her money was tight.
You are again confusing things. We were talking about Alla, not my gf. It was Alla that let me stay at her apartment. It is Alla who bleaches her hair, supposedly. I did not give Alla any money. She did not have a microwave. Why would she want two? Yes, I saw what was inside her closets and cupboards. I did not give Alla a digital camera, but all she had was a 35mm. Yes, I looked into her closets and drawers when she was gone. (I did not touch anything.) My gf did not have a camera. The camera I sent her is mostly used by her daughter.
I can tell honesty most of the time. You said she probably has other men. Yet, when I told her about the magazine article, there was no hesitation. She immediately agreed. Why would she agree to that without hesitation and risk having it read by her other men? You say she probably has other cameras. She is on vkontakte and facebook. Her new pictures there are not very good quality which makes sense. I only sent her a 5 mp Polaroid. My old one. Not a new one that I spent money for.
I am looking into having this woman to be my wife and her daughter to be my daughter. My future wife. My future daughter. What I do, what I send is for my love for both of them, which looks like you know nothing about. I would appreciate your not commenting on how dishonest she is when you don't know a thing about her except of what I posted. Enough is enough. What do you care anyway? Again this is my life and my future wife and kid. You will not be there. If I fail because of me, I can take. If I fail or succeed because I followed your advice, I can't.
Danny, you just posted this a few days ago. WTF? That's what I mean by being a punching bag. You won't leave it alone.
"its each to there own rb ... i dont know why you are worried what i like .. worry about what you like . and i will also stop worrying how much money you send"
I only did that one time, Danny. I don't normally do that. I was going nuts. Alla had to work the first two and a half days I was with her. She locked me inside her apartment. I could not get out. It was alright the first day. I needed the rest. I went along with it the second day..... The third day..... Yes, I asked her for the key, but she told me to wait for her. "Her people" are different.
You can comment on what you want, of course, but it is you that went to the same subject you said you were not going to comment on. We were not talking about my gf or what I sent her, but you found your way there. We already went through that, ad nauseaum.
She had six drawers. I only opened two. That gave me something to do. I found her pictures. I looked through them. She showed them to me later on anyway. I opened her closet (no microwave there). That's where I found the iron. That gave me something to do. I ironed my clothes until I dropped it and it broke. I put it back where it was. When tried to iron my clothes for the ballet, she thought she did it. I later told her I did it. We bought an iron along with the microwave.
rb - I am kidding. it is not my thread. it is the property of fiance.com
but I am truly amazed you were held captive for three days. when she said 'her people' were different she could not have been talking about the general population of ukraine. she must have meant her immediate family or a reference to some dark organization she belongs to. maybe she was holding you prisoner thinking she could get a ransom? didn't she have any windows to sneak out of?
I wonder though, while you were going through her things - being locked up and all - did you sniff all of her panties or just the ones on the floor?
I too have a tough time believing this lady is proudly sharing a magazine article with her friends and family that indicates you have no means to support her. Unless that she is only showing off that she is getting money from some guy in the US to give them other income options??? I don't know, I can only surmise.
I think danny is trying to open your eyes to the possibility that this woman is just using you. I think it is not a personal assault on you. I truly believe danny is trying to be a good 'friend' by pointing all of this out to you. In the end you make your own judgments and decisions. If you post something here it is fair for anyone to criticize and offer opinions. If you do not want to hear anything negative about what you post then I suggest you do not share it. But by sharing what many might consider to be an absurd situation, you are opening yourself up to criticism while at the same time providing a service to others. Thanks.
Thanks for being civil, Ralph. No, I didn't do that to her panties. The panties might have been in the drawers I have not opened. I as in another country and I was locked in.
I understand what I post here is open to criticism. I have already said many many times with Nasfan and now Danny that what you say is a possibility. There are many many possibilities. I even said I am not in love and if this doesn't pan out, I will be alright. Yet, he intends to beat it like an old horse and even make things up to make his point. Even when it is over, and he says it is over, he starts it again a mere three posts after he says it is over. Criticize if you must, fine. When it is over and answered, it is over.
I think Alla just didn't want to be seen with me and be talked about. I saw none of her friends or family. We were on a high rise, probably eight floor. I did not see any fire escapes.
Why am I in this venture, Ralph? I have no means to support her, but I will. At least I think so. That is what I am telling her. I want to get her and her daughter over here. When all else fails, and they will, I expect friends to be supportive.
One more thing about this money thing. For the longest time, I kept quiet about this. I last brought it up here first at least a year ago, probably a lot more. Danny dug it up. I have been explaining my position ever since. I already said it was a possibility that she was a scammer. I don't think so. Assuming I knew it so, and I don't, how many times do you think I can take someone telling me that?