There's loads of guys who could give a better lifestyle, according to your definition. There's an Olga in Ukraine (a friend, who I've no 'interest' in) who's after a "rich" guy - of which I'm not one! If I had interest in her, she'd have none in me.
On the other hand, one of the Ukrainians working for me here (who is also Masha, btw) isn't looking for a guy at all, was never looking for a 'rich' lifestyle, but never wants to return to Ukraine - she's discovered she's comparatively rich just by living in a country with good roads, healthcare, helpful police, lack of bribes etc. (I'm not knocking Ukraine, btw)
Masha finds Olga's attitude funny, as she just doesn't 'get it'. She'll stay single, and right where she is, because she's only interested in a guy who will flaunt his wealth...
...and we all know the kind of guys THAT attracts!
Oh, and to answer your original question, Mariya, I'd agree with all your possible choices, with one addition - in reply to a girl who said she loves him. I've been told that by 18 year olds after a couple of letters. It's often the first indicator of a scammer (apart from her being 17 years younger and writing letters to me, obv!) :) I'm so naturally sceptical, I could be Russian! I guess some people are too trusting!
Finally, welcome to the forum, nice to have you here. Don't let the kids annoy you too much! :)
Harosha Masha,
In my first message to my lovely wife I told her only that she did not have to look for a man anymore because she had already found the man of her dreams. She wondered how sure I was of that and I said very sure ...
... fast forward 2 and a half years and we have been happily married for more than a year.
My point is that different people react differently to specific situations. Once I only said hello to a Russian girl in Internet and she replied that "getting" a Russian woman was not so easy and "I should pick fruits from my own garden."
Her loss!
Therefore, I do not see why it is wrong to say certain things in Internet, even if people have not met... as long as people are mostly sincere and do it with good intentions.
During my years of search I always adapted my speech to what I sensed from the other side. If the woman was more open, I was more open. Otherwise, I was more careful. But my intention was always one: "a true loving relationship that can stand the test of time."
I may not have answered your question, but I tried.
Ralph. I assume there is a great many Mashas in the USA right now who have friends in NYC and who have been or are going to California at some point. However, I’m not one of them. Are you from California?
My random internet dating experiment has turned me from curious into a skeptic or a cynic rather. I can’t imagine what keeps some of you in it for so long. Weeding anyone out of so much stuff gets exhausting. However, some of you have really heart-warming success stories to share. That’s what caught my eye about this forum. I am kind of hoping to find out it IS possible to make a good quality online connection. Without it being weird.
Muzzy, thanks! :) A very smart observation about Olga. Test them, divide your net worth by four and tell the ladies you’ve been talking to that is exactly how much money you are worth. And see if they are genuinely interested in you. Although it might not work with Ukranian women – it is still going to be a lot of money in grivnas :)
FSULover, hello! How long was it after you started talking to your wife until you met, and where did you meet her. If you don’t mind me asking :)
Masha,
I like to travel, so I do not need an excuse to go to another country. If I have the time (from work) and the money to pay for the trip, I would go anywhere. In regards to my wife, we met (in Moscow) just three months after our first Internet conversation. And we did something most people recommend not to do: we went together to a travel agency in Moscow and booked a trip to Turkey for a week, in order to escape the bad weather in Moscow and also have more time to get to know each other (with both being out of our comfort zones).
It worked out great for us, but I would not have done so if I had sensed that she was only looking for a fun time.
Ralph, I'm curious:) How do you know the Mariya you wrote about? Do you two not talk any more? If so why? forgive me if I am asking too many questions, I'd just be thankful it you answered :)
Driftwood Arts, yes kind of like that! The creepy messages I got also contained detailed descriptions of my outer beauty.
Masha....to answer your OP there is NO reason for anyone to say they love someone before knowing that person unless there is an ulterior motive and I can't think of a positive one. Maybe to get ones hopes up or just to be used for what can be had. Serious people don't make brash decisions.
In re to ralph's asking about you being here before, we did have a russian girl by name of Mariya(who told me Masha is nice way of calling such a name)that posted here a year or two ago but I don't remember her coming to the states.
I have seen and read some of letters that girls get sent from girls I have met, it makes one wonder how sincere girls could want to continue with internet dating.
Muzzy --- to clarify what I think is an above average lifestyle...
A man who holds a steady job, doesn't go out with the boys drinking and partying, can afford to keep 2 cars (used toyota and a ford focus counts), a wife and a couple/three children who are well mannered and behaved, and who has enough food to eat that is not instant, microwave or macaroni and cheese dinners five nights a week. has a few 'extra' things to enjoy life outside the home - recreation. can afford to go out to dinner once a month, see a concert or show occasionally etc.
and someone who can discuss more than just the weather and the latest news buzz.
HE DOES NOT HAVE TO BE RICH OR ABLE TO FLAUNT MONEY.