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	Create New Topic   My Posts   My forum buddies   Invite friends   Private messages Russian brides > Main Forum > How do you fail at this, it's simple! Author Post giss Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/10/2011 10:36:15 AM   Wow ivor seems to have been shot down around the world! If he had any experience he would know you can get 40 phone numbers at just oe social. See ivor not everyone works every day. So when you want a date at 10 am you call a woman who works nights. This is simply too funny. Just because you can't talk to women / give them the creeps/ can't judge a sincere one from a scammer ( yes I got scammed twice for less than $100 each time) you shouldn't project your inabilities on others. If you can sneak on a plane this September I'll be glad to show you how it is done with out all the failure, but watch from a distance as women can smell fear/ negativity / and dislike of women a mile away. Have you ever thought you should just come out of the closet ? giss Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/10/2011 10:48:05 AM   I only brought up the $15,000 TOTAL for 3 trips so you bus boys got out now before you blew your 401k's bowhunter Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/10/2011 9:23:09 PM   this should get interesting giss Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/11/2011 4:06:50 PM   So I have learned a lesson here. I best come write with crayons next time so that people who haven't graduated high school can follow along. I'm sorry you can't tell a scammer from a real woman. I don't take the dating advice of the "ex-spurts". As they are not correct. Here look. If you take out a woman the first time and each drink you buy you write down on a napkin so you can keep a running total because you are so cheap, no one wants to know you. If you let the woman pick a place there will bs one of 2 outcomes. She will take you to a place she loves in which case she is probably a serious woman or she will take you to the most expensive place. If she does that, she's gone but I will still enjoy the night. Think about it. Is it better to spend $100 on dinner with a beautiful woman who's a scammer, or you pick the place, dont find out, marry her then learn what scam means? Which is cheaper? Someone explain this idea to ivor please. I actually met a man who did just this and between his wife and her mom scammed him out of $300,000. Do the math. Which is the better route? Admittedly he was stupid and missed 100 red flags but this is simple. It's like doing away with security at airports and just making everyone take a bite of pork chop before letting them on the plane. lonelyranger1701 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/11/2011 11:37:14 PM   Giss,, how can it be that you're still single????? You are so wonderful and great in your own mind,,,,, and yet you are searching in the same place, the rest of us "losers without a package or a spine" are looking in?????? WHERE IS YOUR SUCCESS?? You got on a plane a few times, met some women, wrote down some numbers, went out for dinner, spent some money, and you are going back again in September!!??!! SO WHAT!!!! Congratulfreakalations!!! You’re no better off, than any of the other people on the forum!! Damn!!! I never knew I was so successful!!!! I’ve been there, done that, done that, and done that!! So what!!!! You’ve only had one good piece of advice so far, and that’s on finding out now, or later, if she is a scammer!! Sometimes you need to let them spend a little, to see if that’s all they care about!! Pay a little now, or a lot later!!! Other than that, you’ve just been blowing smoke up everyone’s a$$ for the last week!! If you keep this up,,,, please switch over to a menthol!!! But,,,, you’ve got a theme going,,, so let’s make the most out of it!!!! I’ll call ahead before you land in September, and have the naked girls ready!!! I think maybe two naked girls for spreading rose petals out in front of you as you disembark the plane, and four to carry you through town!! No wait,,, we better make it eight,, you are a little full of it, and we wouldn’t want them to drop you!!!??? jetmba. Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/12/2011 1:59:26 AM   Hi to all: I have to admit I don't know what to him constituted a date. The most I ever had was 2 dates in one day. One for breakfast - the other for a dinner date and I did that rarely. I DID hear of others who claimed to have 3 dates in a day and I don't know what they did. I can't defend that claim. But I will tell you that based on my first Romance Social I knew that if I ever married again - it would be a Ukrainian/Russian or Moldovan girl. I had several American girl-friends before going to Eastern Europe. I even had several dates per week in the US while on Yahoo's dating site. BUT I have never dated a single girl in the US since going to Eastern Europe. I hear from the girls I met over there on a minimum of once a week even though I have not been there since September 2010 due to surgery. And there is absolutely no comparison in the USA. In my opinion Romance Socials are the greatest thing since sliced bread. Though I readily admit some people will NEVER succeed with them. I especially remember one guy I met on my last Romance Social named Steve from California. A very good looking younger guy he was very successful. I was glad to introduce him to an agency owner I had met on a previous trip. He told me that nobody he worked with knew where he was or what he was doing. I asked him if he would tell the people about Romance Socials when he returned home. He said "Hell no. I will AFTER I have found the one. When people hear about this they will ALL want to come and I don't want the competition." That about sums it up. jetmba. Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/12/2011 2:25:47 AM   Let me mention once again - about 1/4 to 1/3 of the guys don't succeed. And they won't succeed. And they get hostile with the guys who DO succeed. They have crappy personalities and they see this as a final effort. They are AMERICANS for Pete's sake (or sometimes people from European countries). These girls will fall all over themselves to be with them they figure. They even say sometimes that they will be worn ou with all of the girls they will be sleeping with. It is very hard not to bust out laughing when you hear that and to only restain yourself to rolling your eyes. But EASILY 2/3 to 3/4 of the guys are drop-jaw amazed at what happens on these trips. They can't believe what has happened to them. They have life changing experiences. (Just like Yours-Truely did.) They swear they will come back soon either for a specific girl or to re-experience Romance Socials in general. I keep in contact with many and can tell you they DO! And I know this is going to sound funny - but since the guys look out for each other and tend to eat breakfast together - there is a certain bonding there too. I have male friends from around the globe who have gone to these things. I have been invited to quite a few weddings and get calls from these guys maybe once a month. I have a friend in South America (I have never been to South America) who has a beach house and has invited me and my Russian lady to spend New Years next year with HIM and his Russian lady). What else can I say? Rag'n'Bull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/12/2011 3:21:01 AM   Jet, Nothing personal, just making a point, if it's so easy by means of romance social(s) whereas after a 3rd such social a guy can have so many women tripping over themselves to be his wife etc. ..... if it's that easy Jet then why are you still single after how many years and how many romance socials? Martin jetmba. Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/12/2011 3:39:55 AM   Lonelyranger: I HAVE been to several Romance Social in the past that were in the same city and I can tell you that roughly 10% have been repeaters. But think about it. Many of the girls I've spoken to are not crazy about the slection of native guys. Many don't have jobs, drink too much, are abusive. Not all for certain - but some. There IS some appeal to finding a foreign guy - but there are also time contraints. 30 is considered to be OLD over there and as that age starts sneaking up most women want to find a good guy and settle down and have kids. Guys can be snealy too. My exfiance in Mariupol told me about two of her friends, they had each met this wonderful guy - gone with him to Bulgaria and Egypt Both said he had proposed and they could not wait to join him in Chicago. As she listen closer, oever the course of a few months - she realized that they were talking about the same guy. The two "fiances" (women) involved didn't know each other but she knew them both. Reluctantly she informed both fiance's that there might be a problem. Both confronted the guy and he finaly confessed that he was engaged to actually THREE women - the third living in Dnepropesk (spelled wrong I know). Eventually he amrried one and they are now living in Chicago - but he played all three for nearly a year. With all due respect its foolish to think that the girls are well screened and serious. There are bad apples in every bushel and you can't expect anything else. THEY don't know how serious you are simply because you say you are, or because you are writing them letters. You could be professing your solitary love to six at once. They can't know. It happens. If you are serious with one of these girls, you have to move quickly. I have met two terrific ones. And both still talk with me about marriage. But I haven't moved quickly. I have hesitated sometimes for reason that were beyond my control, sometimes for reasons that were well within my control. I would be blessed to be with either of these women in marriage and I suspect I still have a chance, more with one than the other. But I also recognize that I may lose both. Its a danger of international romance. The only consolation I have is that htere are still plenty of wonderful women out there and I know that if I ever really get my act together (and I am trying) I will have other opportunities. jetmba. Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/12/2011 3:47:49 AM   Ivor: Read my more recent post. I've messed up a few times. Much I have disclosed here in the forum. Much I haven't. But I put 75% of the blame on my own shoulders. As I mention - I am trying to get some things together now. If successful - I will explain eventually. (If not I probably won't want to talk about it). One problem is that I got hund up on one woman and didn't end it when I should have. She visitied me when I was panning to go to two other sets of Socials supposedly to move on. It might seem obvious that you can't meet somebody new when another girl is staying with you in your room. But what can I say - I never fell out of love with this one. She's the one I brought back to the US. She is the only child of a widow who would neceessarily be alone - no husband, no close family, for quite a while if this girl came to be with me. So she can't do that. I suspect that if anything ever happend to the mother things would change entirely - but I cannot wish ill on her of course. Suffice it to say that there have been certain factors that have prevented me from doing as I needed to. But I am hoping to change those things soon. Rag'n'Bull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/12/2011 8:44:59 AM   Jet, I wasn't criticizing (or similar) you, I was merely using you as an example that things are, just perhaps, not so easy and straighforward as some (one) may make them out to be Batman Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/12/2011 1:34:01 PM   Jet, We discussed AFA tours a long time ago via PM and I'ms till convinced it's the way to go especially for the first time. No doubt, some of the chronic cryers on this venue will find something to pick apart but I thank you for the great posts, advice and some stories from your perpective. giss Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/12/2011 1:54:48 PM   Aah ivor, always negative. I'm going back in September to decide which one of 7 strong candidates to ask to marry me. I admit my first trip was a waste. The second was good, the third was great. I have dated 7 women so far that would all be wonderful wives. So you've done that? When you making your final selection? Ooh none of the 3 women you dated in the check out line will speak with you any more? Yea, I figured. You think negativity really draws women in? The fact is that other than scammers every single woman here over 30 is seriously looking for a smart, self sufficient, employed, positive, romantic heterosexual man. Apparently I'm all of the above. Tell me how it works for you being none of the above. I'm by no means great looking or rich. I'm just not a total a$$ hat like you. jetmba. Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/12/2011 4:10:23 PM   Hi Batman: I remember well our discussions. I know about the chronic cryers and reminded that it generally ISN'T the people who do well who come here and talk about Romance Socials (except for Giss - and good on you Giss) but those who don't do well. You know there are only some 30 Romance Socials put on by both companies that do them. Figure fifteen guys at each and thats 450 guys per year - altogether. Of course many of the 15 guys hit more than one so reduce that number to about 375 new Social participants per year. Now think about all the thousands and thousands of women out there and the tens of thousands of letter writers. And I swear that there are a lot more men who are succesful at Romance Socials as a percentage of participants than all those people who simply write letters. beemer18 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/12/2011 6:50:33 PM   Hey Jet, how you doing? I was wondering what happened to you. I am not here very often due to the deterioration of this forum, if you pm me there is far superior one(civil & moderated). Those socials are only for a certain type of person even though guys who have nothing better try anyways( those you spoke of). I don't know if I would ever try one but you never know. I do know of a smaller operator that has socials that some guys vouch for...you go with the owner, he can schedule any girl from area going through on tour, usually 3-5 cities and can start anywhere you want in tour. My timing has not same so I never joined up in a city. They are smaller than large ones but some girls come in from other cities to join in......just a thought when I was reading your posts. I know the two girls you are talking about. If it was meant to be, you would be with one of them by now. You must be still searching for the right one.... I still visit Chisinau when over there... jetmba. Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/12/2011 7:06:17 PM   beemer: Sadly there have always been wars in this forum. A while back we even had some people go start their OWN forum in protest. Only those liked got passwords. I'm nor crazy about when it either spills out of the forum or threatens to start something in real life but as evryone know that has happened to. Fot my part I have to admit - I haven't always been so civil here. I am not quite guilt free when it comes to giving a few or taking a few shots. Unless I am mistaken though the forum seems in a lull right now. I have only been back here myself for about two days. Maybe peopl are just catching their breath - or the scantily clad ring girl is walking around the squared circle with a card saying "Round 2" (or 8). I don't know. As I mentioned to Martin - I don't tell EVERYTHING in the forum. And there is a pretty good reason reason that I have not brught a girl home yet - I mean except for one in 2005 for three months. I need to take care of that before it can be with ANY Russian woman. And I am working on it. lonelyranger1701 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/12/2011 11:42:54 PM   Jetmba, I have been to one A-Int’ social in 1998, so my experience is limited and out dated! But I have seen many videos from both companies, and what I didn’t like in the past, has only gotten worse!!! It was more of a party than a serious gathering. It is not the setting I want to be in, and the woman I am searching for, would not be caught dead there!!! So why go??? I know what you mean about the women attending, a social doesn’t come to their city every day, so they must make the most out of it!! It is the same for the men; they don’t fly across the ocean every day to meet perhaps 100’s of women!! That is a problem in itself!! Everyone is desperate!! When I was in Moscow, Dec of 98 I could see it in the eyes of many of the women, and I felt bad for them,,, but pity is no reason to marry someone!! I also agree about them having a poor choice, when it comes to their local men! It makes me wonder why,,, more of the women aren’t more serious in their search?? Of all the women I have had from just several, to hundreds of letters with, and of the ones I have met, I can’t say that I have met a serious one yet!! I know, it is foolish to expect 100% of the women to be screened!! A-web had promised 7 to 10 women per man, per day,,,, 500 to 700 for the whole social!! I doubt whether we had more than 100?? I was only in Moscow for 10 days or so,,, and I found 5 prostitutes!! Lol The people who live there should be able to do a more thorough job than myself?? I noticed after your post for me, that you and batman are talking about “chronic criers”,,,, I hope you aren’t putting me into that category?? I tell it, just as I see it, and have lived it!! I have nothing to profit from, no apartment rentals, no taxi service, or anything else to get my cut from!!! What giss is doing, is NOT helping the people who are coming to the forum for answers!!! It is damn reckless on his part!! Many people are going to read his posts, and believe they have found the answer to their prayers,,,, only to be damn disappointed!! What giss has discovered, is a way to party!! If you are only looking for a good time,,, go!! That’s what most men are using the socials for anyway!! It is also the reason why, many European women are having a bad opinion of foreign men!! They get to see the foreign men act just like their own!!!! beemer18 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/12/2011 11:45:14 PM   Jet, I do remember a terrible personal loss you had....I hope never to have to deal with that, so maybe something your dealing with is age related......I do find myself checking all moving parts........so far all accounted for!!! lonelyranger1701 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/13/2011 12:30:20 AM   beemer,,, the guy we all need to worry about is danny,,,, his penis is shrinking!! He said so himself, in one of the posts here!!! jetmba. Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/13/2011 12:53:05 AM   Beemer: What I refer to has nothing to do with the tragedy you mention. It has noyhing yo do with anything age related either. The surgery is a temporary set-back but it has nothing to do with that either. Geez, Beemer - your POST and the reference that age related moving parts failure could shut me down though makes me feel damn old. I am only 53 years old. And the body came with guarantee for another 50 years - or was that a Life Time guarantee? I can't remember. I'll have to try and find the paperwork Anyway the prblem is something else. Your Reply: Your name:   New Registration Password:   Forgot password?   refresh Code:   Russian brides > Main Forum > How do you fail at this, it's simple!
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