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	Create New Topic   My Posts   My forum buddies   Invite friends   Private messages Russian brides > Main Forum > Who is scamming who ? Author Post jetmba. Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/18/2004 8:16:55 PM   Hey Tim: I have met her. She is one of my Moldovan ladies and we met and spent nearly a week together in October of 2003. (A fiance vis is not possible if you cannot prove that you have already met in person). Furthermore, I will be seeing her again at the end of April, beginning of May when I visit Moldova. I am very, very fond of her (big time) and certainly, after my next visit, willing to consider bringing her over on a fiance visa. But a fiance visa has a definite purpose. Here in the US you are meant to spend time together, 90 day, to determine whether you will marry. If you do marry you must do it during that time. If not she must return back toi her country. The problem is - what if we decide not to marry. She speaks excellent English and has a very independent nature. Since I made my post I did do some research and though I did not find a specific answer to my question - I did find that the government plays hardball on these issues. A five year prison sentence of $250,000 fine (or both) for a fraudulent application. No doubt they would not look highly on her (or me either) if she left me high and dry. Not something that you would want to mess with. TimH Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/19/2004 3:58:51 AM   They would have to prove that it was fraudulent though !!! On her part that would be easier as she is the one who has broken the terms, you on the other hand would be devastated and upset, I doubt they would actually convict you. I didnt realise, because you hadnt siad who she was that you have met her already, but if this is the case, why are you so concerned ? Surely you must have some idea of her character by now ;o))) TimH Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/19/2004 4:05:29 AM   Furthermore, do they actually play "hardball" or do they make a big show of the information of what they might do to scare people off ? Governments are starnge people, personally I have as little to do with mine as possible, I do not want to join their club ;o)) I think really you need to decide when you next see your lady Jet, if you are not sure about her intentions then only you can really judge what you should or should not do. I cant really advise you what to do because I do not know your lady, and like you and I are different, every lady is also different from every other one. jetmba. Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/19/2004 5:36:07 AM   I guess you would call it "rounders"??? (And its a girl's game?!?!) In American we differentiate "hardball" from "softball", the latter of which is generally a recreation league type sport. The first term probably needs no clarification. Anyway - to discover her intent is precisely why I will be visiting in April and May. I DO know this one better and have very very strong feelings for her, but also some doubts. (Blast those strong feelings. Rational decisions would be so much easier without them.) Like I said I spent several days with her (and several nights). The other lady I don't know nearly as well. But she is the one I was initially attracted too. (Believe it or not I did not pursue her because my translator, in error, told me that she was only 19. So I reluctantly went for her 23 year old friend. Turns out that she was really also 23. Since I'm 46, why those four years made a difference to me in consideration at first,I am not entirely sure. And she was quite perturbed when she learned of the error.) Anyway - these two women are so incredibly above those I have eve met anywhere - I hope to bring one over on a fiance visa. And, hopefully, make her my wife. I talk for hours to each on the phone every week. And it is great. But not the same as being there and with them. Can't wait to go. jetmba. Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/19/2004 5:51:27 AM   I should explain - I have NO real reason to suspect that she wouldn't go back. After her mother lives there (in Moldova) and the two only have each other. I only consider such things as I look ahead. I think of such things as how to arange the logistics of her visit - how we will schedule, what she will do while I am at work, what I will have to explain to her about America and... what if she doesn't want to go back... And it had just dawned on me that, though I have read a million posts on the procedure and process of obtaining a fiance visa - I had never read anything about the quetion I pose above. Surely it must happen becasue I understand that people overstay their student and visitor's visas all the time. Surely people must occasionally overstay these too. jetmba. Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/19/2004 6:00:05 AM   Feel free to stick the extra letters into my words above, to make them spelled right - or to rearrange the letters completely. My typos are not errors. They are tiny challenges intended to give the reader something to do. TimH Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/19/2004 1:32:38 PM   Looks as if you may not only be gaining a wife Jet, but a live in Mum in law too :o)) You lucky lucky man ;o))) TimH Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/19/2004 1:33:30 PM   I mean, no point Mum staying over there all on her own after her daughter leaves to be with you :o)) Hope you have a big house mate ;o)) scottlf Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/19/2004 1:41:52 PM   Because he may expect to receive a large housemate? TimH Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/19/2004 2:47:51 PM   No !!! Because he may be getting a wife and a Mum in law to live wioth them all in the one deal :o)) Im wondering if Jet is suitably scared yet ;o)) Not sure I would want the out laws living with me !!! TimH Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/19/2004 2:48:15 PM   Ooooppppss !!! In Laws :o)) jetmba. Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/19/2004 4:28:06 PM   I am concerned about that. I am having my neck measured right now in preparation for the millstone I might soon be wearing. Some good news then - I have booked my flight (by the way, I tried Expedia.com, Travelocity.com, Orbitz.com and others - but I got by far the best rate by calling the Moldova Airlines office in this country - they patched an excellent price together of NorthWest). Just made sure I have the right vacation days. And thought that I had arranged an apartment - but my lady says the place I found on her street wasn't close enough....) But I'm a happy man (sans millstone for now). I'm going to go see her. Both of my ladies (and I guess the mom too) I mean. TimH Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/19/2004 8:29:44 PM   The Mom too !!!! Thats not a pretty picture Jet !! And way more information than I can personally handle ;o)) tohotfru Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/23/2004 7:24:30 PM   hey tim and jet what you two naive people failed to mention is that if you're so worried about being scammed by a russian women you need to set some rules.like the number one rule: she should invest as much money as you do!!!!!!in other words if it costs you $2,000.00 to see her she should pay for half of it. this way she has just as much invested in the relationship as you do. also it will tell you that she is serious about meeting a westerner and getting to know him better. tohotfru Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/23/2004 7:27:22 PM   and jet as far as the mother-in-law is involved you're braver than i'd ever be. good luck!!!! TimH Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/23/2004 7:54:57 PM   Where on earth have you been hiding under a stone ? A Russian woman would be lucky to have $20 to her name, let alone $2000 !!! I suggest you take yourself back to posting on friendfinder.com pal, because you wont find many friends here talking the S8ite you are spouting !!! TimH Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/23/2004 8:04:52 PM   Better call the moderator !!! I think there is a village some place short of its idiot !!! And unfortunatly he has wandered in here !!! crashnsplash Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/23/2004 8:13:40 PM   LoL, u got that right Tim! What a joke.. Just like in his other post where he claims Russian women are coming to the US just to work and send cash home. I live in the US and I can tell you the United States does not issue visas for Russian or Ukrainian women to come here and work (I wish they did). It's a long drawn out process just to get them here on a fiance visa and that's if your lucky! jetmba. Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/23/2004 10:07:43 PM   Its not just him. I know one guy I traveled to Odessa with (in other words, He's been there!) and he was upset because didn't offer to pay for half of dinner and didn't buy him comparable gift to those he saw American men giving the ladies. Further, once he returned, he was upset that none of them called him in the States. After all, he reasoned, he had given them his phone number. And he said he refused to take the first step and call any of them until they called him first. I repeat - This guy was THERE. He didn't just fall out of a tree like tohotfru evidently did. I HAVE heard of situations where Russian women come over here and decide they don't want to stay. They get homesick or the relationship doesn't work out. Some (a few) make an appearance at Brighton Beach in New York (often refered to as "Little Odessa" - where they sometimes take a short stint as a waitress or a stripper (I said some, mind you, of course many would never do this) and make enough money to pack a bit away and return pretty well off to the FSU country they came from. A Russian lady friend I have her in the States knows of several who have done this. Thunderdome Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/24/2004 1:58:39 PM   tohotfru = u r f.. too hot Maybe, maybe, but he (is he?) has got rocket fuel for brains. Nice pal that one Jet, he really expect to go Dutch in the Ukraine? Recommend him Amsterdam, plenty of strippers there, many nationalities also. I don't think they'll go Dutch though, maybe some French... ;-) Your Reply: Your name:   New Registration Password:   Forgot password?   refresh Code:   Russian brides > Main Forum > Who is scamming who ?
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