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	Create New Topic   My Posts   My forum buddies   Invite friends   Private messages Russian brides > Main Forum > 26 days in the Ukraine. What I learned and what it cost. Author Post TimH Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/26/2004 6:54:38 PM   Glad, I have no wish to offend you mate, or anyone else, my opinions are exactly that, My opinions, based on my Own personal experience. I live in an area which is highly populated by the exact women I describe. I speak of my own personal experience, nothing more. Furthermore, I know many good UK women, the ones I'm talking about in my posts are not these women, but of course these good women are spoken for, and as TD says you don't mess with another mans woman unless you are either suicidal or bigger than the man who's lady you are messing with !!! Regardless, I would never mess with any other mans woman, its not in my nature. Last but not least, point me at a woman who is between 26 and 40, loving, caring, not selfish, supportive, Honest, under 150lbs, who wants children (but doesn't already have any, I have a step son of 19, I really do not want to never have children of my own, but also I do not want my own to have to compete with any child my partner may already have, I have done the step Dad thing, I was damn good at it and my Son is still as close to me as he has always been, 7 years after his mother and I divorced ) , takes impeccable care of herself (not for my benefit but because she has self respect) would be happy to be the other half of a loving, caring and supportive marriage, and will be Faithful and loyal and I will gladly marry her tomorrow !!! Because all these things I have in spades to give to the right lady if she will give the same to me !! What you will find are the bad ones I describe, the married and spoken for ones that I would never dream of disrupting, or the ones of 35+ who do not want children or have baggage piled to the ceiling !! I am genuinely sorry if I have offended you in any way, but please understand it is only My opinion. Tim TimH Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/26/2004 6:57:21 PM   Thats the nice thing about opinions, you can agree or disagree, and everyone can have them and still be friends :o))) gladiatorUK Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/27/2004 2:12:01 AM   I can understand exactly what you say Tim..........I do realise that everybody has their own opinions,and as you have realised I have mine too,although that is not to say that I disagree with what you said,just that I felt it right to speak for the reputation of the decent ones. My reasons for "heading East" were very similar to your own,and I am so very glad I did.However I think that maybe the biggest cause of the difficulties we encounter with our own women are due more in part to the culture that we have,rather than something genetic!!!..........:)) And yes..........thats what this forum is all about.......opinions!!! Oh I nearly forgot.......have a nice day mate!.........:)) TimH Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/27/2004 3:47:05 AM   Someone on another site a long time ago actually said "Part of the problem with western women is that for too long they have been encouraged by our culture not to be equal but to be better than men" "Sisters are doing it for themselves" What ever happened to doing things together ?!?!? One of my own pet hates, "Girl Power" !! It has spawned a whole generation, in fact probably 2 generations now, of very rude and unacceptable (to me) bitchy women. Preaching to girls that they can be all powerful, rich, give attitude, do exactly what they want, whenever they want and have it accepted, its a load of horse sh*t mate, anyone with a brain should know that life is not like that. No-one male or female can really get along in life behaving that way, they have abused the position their fame have given them to preach something to girls that only 2% at most can ever really have, and then that 2% wont necessarily be liked for having it !!! Is it any wonder some of them are so hard to cope with or to understand !! Eg: (I have experienced this personally, and seen it happen many many times too) You approach a girl in a club and ask her nicely if she would like to dance or would like a drink, instead of a polite refusal, the well mannered way to deal with this situation, these days she is more likely to tell you to f*ck off !! Now what the hell is that about ??? I am very fortunate in that I have worked for myself for the last 16 years and I am, without wishing to be regarded as boastful, successful at what I do. I have equal respect for any woman who can do the same, and just as much respect for a woman who has tried and failed, but on the same vein, I have No respect for any woman who has achieved what I have achieved and considers herself better than me, or better than anyone else either !! We are all born equal, and for certain we shall all die equal, no-one has the right to be any other way throughout life. Anyway my friend, my problem lies with the women I personally have experienced and know, there may indeed be many good women here, but so far I have not found any of them, (who were available or capable of accepting what I have to offer, and wanting the same family unity and life as I do ) and rather than continue to be disappointed here, like you I choose to look elsewhere, where I know there are wonderful women who will work as hard Beside me, with me not behind me, nor fight me for supremacy, for a good life together. You have a great day too mate :o)) Turboz Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/28/2004 9:09:42 AM   TimH Why didn't you mention before that you were also from Hastings?! Oh yes, we have the Gold-Digging-Mania in this town and you sound like your from the exact same place! Yep, ever bought that nice girl a drink only to find that she's got her boyfriend drug dealer to beat you up the week after? - Oh yes it all happens here. Most UK women are on a powere cruise and the nice ones have already been snapped up by men who are like Hawk's. The only ones available (or willing to dump their man instantly) are the gold digging scrubbers - simply because they want to milk you of everything they can take you for. Then they move on to the next victim. It doesn't matter what generation they are from either - My own mother always weighs up a man by what car he has and how much money he seems to have. He's broke (but nice) and he's history. All women are the same worldwide - Even FSU women. The only advantage you have with FSU women is that some of them want to leave their country and will eventually allow you to gain the upper hand. Mind you, having said that some of them won't. TimH Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/28/2004 9:22:54 AM   IM not in Hastings mate, but I am glad that I dont live in the only area that this is true for !!! Its sad, and I wish it wasnt the truth, but with many it is Im afraid :o/// wtrav02 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/29/2004 7:27:33 PM   Turboz and TimH, I had experience dating British women in several occasions, the last occurred more than 12 years ago. All of these encounters were mainly sexual and superficial. One of them a woman from Liverpool, she was a casino girl working for a cruise line. I think she fell in love with me, she wanted more. Out of all these encounters and several other encounters with other European women, I didn't get all that you claim here. I don't get it that all women are after money. These women came with me for fun, some wanted more. Even American women that I dislike it's not because I think they're all after money, it's because they're self-centered and superficial and the good ones are few and taken. Deanis, good for you pal! It's great to know you had a good time. I think you hit all the hot pointers in your posting. It's not clear to me whether you are indeed looking to get married with a Russian woman or having the fun of your life. While the last is perfectly fine, I can assure you out of personal experience that finding the right person, falling in love and receiving the same love feels like nothing else. If you asked me a year ago if I would see myself with one woman that I would be fulfilled like this, I would laugh! I used to pay much attention on looks and young age and still do, but I can tell you one thing, I would give everything for my Yulichika and I mean everything even my life and I know it from my heart she would do the same. I see the same beauty in her regardless the situation. I honestly think I would feel the same attraction even if she weren't such a pretty girl. I didn't feel like this until I settled with her even after we got married. I truly believe one has to settle on one woman to have a chance to make this happen. Endless dating leads nowhere. Sex is wonderful, but if you think you are in heaven, you don't know what you are missing. If you don't pursue it, it's not going to happen. Good luck wholeheartedly whatever your objective is. TimH Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/29/2004 8:28:12 PM   Wtrav: Many many UK women are self-centered and superficial too mate, the money grabbing we speak of is just another fault, among the many, that they seem to have evolved into over the past 20 years (I'm old so I have seen it that far back :o) and seen what women were like 30 years ago too !! ) UK women these days are either taken (the good ones as in the US good ones) Have more baggage than Jenny Lopez takes for a weekend away !!! (that was 64 suit cases of just her own clothes, for 2 days by the way !! Just in case you didn't hear the news !!! Does that mean if I take my usual 1 case she is 64 times more important than me ? ) they are confirmed bachelorettes, or they just want the sex and fun but wont commit to even the best of men !! I am sick of starting dating girls to find in a few weeks they are talking about us just being friends, or that they are not ready for a commitment, finding out Im not the "only guy" they are seeing, and sleeping with !!! Or walking away to the next guy with a nice car and a thick wallet !! They are rude and ignorant too, unless they want something then they can be all sweetness and light, until they get what they want then its back to rude and ignorant !!! All I desire from life is a woman who will give me what I will give her. That in everything I do and everything I am, she will ALWAYS come first in my life, before everyone including myself !! Is that really too much to ask, that a woman could possibly do this for me too ? I'm just completely disillusioned with UK women mate, all they are interested in is their own wants and needs, they don't ask nicely for anything any more, its all "I want, I want, I want !!" And God help the man if she doesnt get it !!!! As I have said many times, thats just my own experiences and opinion, but I have to stick by my own thoughts on this matter, as I am the one who has to live with myself if I don't follow my own heart !! But I stand by what I have said before, I want a Princess, Not a Pig !!!! I agree with you 100% about the One woman thing though mate, I will meet ladies until I find her again ( I thought I had her but she turned out not to be the real one after all :o(( )and when I do find her she will be my only love until Im dead, and I sincerely mean that. I want that one perfect woman, who will do as I do for her and put me first, and then I will be truly happy for the rest of my life. All I can do is hope to find her, and when I do never let her go. Tim dragster Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/29/2004 10:25:04 PM   what a sweeping statement about women Tim......can you honestly speak for all women?......no?......nuff said! deanis Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/1/2004 1:20:58 AM   Wtrav! Glad your still around and checking up on us from time to time. I must say I envy you. Sounds like you have found your soul mate. That being said, I know from reading my post its difficult to read if Im a player or a serious guy. Well, I'm serious. I dated 15 different girls during my last trip. I'm looking for that connection. The one that says "When can I see her again" before the date is even over. If I don't feel that then I make it a one date and out. I'm not playing games or just trying to get her in my bed so I move on quickly. Time is precious over there and why waste mine or hers. When I feel that connection then I move into the next phase. This usually involves many dates and sometimes leads to sex. Im not afraid to say that sex to me is an important foundation to any relationship and important step in getting to know any women you have developed interest and feelings for. I had sex with three of the fifteen women I dated. All three I was serious about and dedicated much of my time too. In the end none will be my future bride but have no regrets taking the relationship to the sex level. To me it is all part of the process of finding your soul mate. I could have shagged 12 of them if I wanted to lie and play with them. Well, That was not the reason I came there for. Hey Wtrav! If I recall your girl is from Kharkov. Are you two going back to visit this summer? I'll be there probably the whole month of June. We should meet up! gladiatorUK Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/1/2004 1:56:41 AM   Deanis,of course you are a serious guy........whats wrong with having a little fun on the way pal??....:) The end of your post caught my eye really.My lady is from Kharkov and we are hoping to make a visit this summer to see her family,and I guess it would be nice to meet a fellow traveller,and maybe share a glass (or two)of vodka!!! TimH Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/1/2004 3:52:28 AM   I can speak for all the women I know personally and have seen behaving in this exct manner, and as i said, its my opion, and Im entitled to not want anything to do with such women. wtrav02 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/1/2004 6:57:52 PM   TimH, you're a gentleman and I trust your opinion. Your determination will pay off and in the process you will continue to have the fun of your life. Best of luck! Deanis, I get a feeling that you and I must have quite a few things in common. You're a great guy by the way and you know how to enjoy yourself and spread the enjoyment around you as well. In fact, Yulia just got her conditional permanent residency today (a stamp on her passport until the green card comes in the mail), so she can travel now. She's going by herself to see her parents end of April. I am not going though, have to work ... She'll stay there over a month to take driving classes since it is much cheaper and then take the test here. She'll need to change her national data to her new last name also and that takes a while in Ukraine. Then in the end of May, I plan to meet her in Moscow and have a tour of Russia for a couple of weeks (I still have a Russian business visa that I never used and expires in July). If things change, I will let you know otherwise you'll have gladiatorUK keep you company with some votichka between dates. Take care and good luck! TimH Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/1/2004 8:04:59 PM   Thank you wtrav, and I wish you and Yulia all the very best for a great life together :o) deanis Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/1/2004 10:06:08 PM   Gladiator it would be a pleasure to meet up with you in Kharkov! I'll be getting in touch via your email. Sorry you cant join us Wtrav! Have a good time in Moscow and don't forget your wallet! Moscow is the second most expensive tourist city in all of Europe behind London. A fun small disco called Jingle Bells is worth checking out! You can also eat there and the food is good. TimH Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/2/2004 3:18:27 PM   If theres a party in the planning, I want in !!!! dma Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/2/2004 3:38:48 PM   If I do jump on a jet this year, I did contemplate the idea of teaming up if there's anyone (with a personality) in the same area as I am sure it would make the whole experience enjoyable for all concerned, boys and girls. TimH Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/2/2004 4:08:32 PM   Where are you Derrick ? And if you go, where would you be headed for ? dma Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/2/2004 4:37:01 PM   Based in York. Could head anywhere at the moment (Nikolaev,Ismail,Ukraine; s. Bogoslovka,Ryazan,Russia;), most likely two or three places depending upon transport issues and time. Will know better in 2 to 3 months what I am going to do. TimH Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/2/2004 5:04:29 PM   Didnt realise you were UK based mate !! 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