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	Create New Topic   My Posts   My forum buddies   Invite friends   Private messages Russian brides > Main Forum > This was fun while it lasted but no more ... Thanks... Author Post Rag'n'Bull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/14/2012 3:00:35 AM   Lonely, My girlfriend gets sexy on cam also :) http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7011/6800399095_d61ec2ef7a_b.jpg lonelyranger1701 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/14/2012 4:23:00 AM   "Australian Passport Holders do need a visa to visit Ukraine-- and is a painfull ,inconvenient,time consuming,costly exercise . " Maybe the Ukraine has some standards after all???? No wonder Dunt 1 hasn't been there,,,,,, they won't let him in!!!! bowhunter Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/14/2012 6:46:02 AM   good luck I hope have found what will last a life time. nasfan6 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/16/2012 4:45:30 PM   Russia is for imbeciles like danny who gets ripped off for 30k. What a moron. lonelyranger1701 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/16/2012 5:35:59 PM   And what about Thailand???? Only the sickest sex tourists go there!!!! lonelyranger1701 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/18/2012 1:38:13 AM   Dahhhhhh nasfan,,, I tought u was smerter den ragingbull????? lol apal1 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/18/2012 12:56:19 PM   Lonely - stop trying to find some negative. Your assumption is again wrong... I never gave a time frame. Those were in the past (before I met my fiance). Why don't you show some class for a change? Ukraine isn't all for sex tourists. But that is what the girls in the agency tell me its like from their side. Guys like Lonely or guys trying to do Cybersex. Thailand is a sex tourist place for those seeking it. It can be a real vacation mecca too. It all depends on your mindset. Me and my fiance were in Pattaya which is a renowned prostitute and sex tourist place, but it wasn't all that way everywhere there. I decided to rent a 4 bedroom villa with private pool and we spent most of our time there. The beach wasn't Waikiki for sure... apal1 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/20/2012 2:48:56 PM   Hope ot hear back from you soon Aussie. I may try to come sooner to Odessa. I should be there for a few months. But need to go to South America and then Italy before I can make it. Best of luck, and don't worry what guys are saying about your initial relations before meeting. A lot of them don't do good with the ladies because they are challenged in attraction department. It's funny, because I have heard time and time from agency girls how things change the moment some ugly guy shows his photos or tries to do video... You can't expect to date a ripe succulent peach - while looking like a shriveled dried up prune (in any country). But that's the fantasy and its the one biggest false bubble I am popping in this forum. And sorry to tell everyone the real realities here. And for Godsake - I'm not here to create any more fake bubbles that agencies will tell all men who can make them money. Nor am I going to perpetuate the everlasting loser lie that all agencies are scams and all agency girls are fake no good schemers. That is not the truth. Vesnovka Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/20/2012 4:47:49 PM   You can't expect to date a ripe succulent peach - while looking like a shriveled dried up prune (in any country). )))))))))) They 've heard the story of Anna Nicole Smith(24), married with 88 y o "darling". ))))))) Dont broke their dream.Ìå÷òàòü- íå âðåäíî, âðåäíî íå ìå÷òàòü. Vesnovka Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/21/2012 1:03:36 AM   *broke=breake apal1 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/23/2012 2:40:04 PM   I was very surprised how many Russian-speaking tourists were there in Thailand. Every shop me and my fiance' would meander into in Pattaya always had a Russian tourist. We actually went to a 100% russian travel agency in pattaya, and for a great deal, they sent us on a Safari tour. Was great fun. My fiance' is pretty even by Ruskie standards for sure. But for the most part, the Russians behaved themselves when they saw a beautiful young girl with a guy near her. The other Western foreigners would eye-ball her trying to get her to look at them. She didn't. She's as loyal a girl as you can find from an agency so far as I have seen most Ukraine girls once they choose, are fiercely loyal if they are truly interested in serious relations. AussieInLove Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/24/2012 11:24:58 PM   Hey guys... (and I am talking to the ones that are here for the same reason as me) A quick update... Firstly JayH, thanks for the visa advice... I honestly never even thought about needing a visa to travel to the Ukraine... it was your post that prompted me to look into it and indeed I do need a visa... AND it can take up to 30 days... so visa application is now done and I just need to finally decide where I am staying in Odessa so I can send it in to the Ukraine Embassy in Canberra... $196 for multiple entry visa... only concern is I have to send in my passport with the visa application... Hopefully I will get it back ;) So trip is booked... leaving Sydney 5th July arriving Odessa 6th July. Just about to book accommodation... obviously I will be looking for an apartment as I will be staying there for 15-20 days... Thinking about the centre of Odessa... Had a great webcam session a couple of days ago... we were on for 7 hours straight... Met the mother... and the son... Had dinner together (over webcam of course)... talked and laughed for hours... This girl certainly "feels" like the real thing and we both already like each other so much that the face to face meeting seems to be simply the deal clincher rather than to see "if we like each other"... The most surprising thing for me is this girl's insecurity about me :O... she still occasionally seems to think that I will be the one that will prove to be playing with her emotions... She is putting me in the same category as all the other men she has had met in her life... She still does not seem to believe that I am for real... The good thing is that I am and she will see that soon enough... So all is good... I actually like it... if a girl is a little jealous it means she cares ... right ? and these FSU girls are certainly passionate about what they consider to be "theirs"... Another surprising thing is this girl's total control of her emotions.. it is VERY obvious that she is totally into me... and yet she will not express any forms of written affections... so the most she will say is "I like you very much" never has she said the word "love"... so that makes me think that she is real and guarded rather than flippant and looking for "something other than a real relationship"... She always had said that you cannot feel love until after you have "relations"... which goes very much along the lines of advice from Apal... For the record I have also never said "I Love you" but I have said "I am falling in love with you" But that was before Apal's advice again... since then I have even cut that language out... now we simply talk about how much we like each other... which we do... So I have certainly learnt on this front as well... be cool calm and collected with your emotions... for somebody that always is truthful and always wears his heart on his sleeve it has not been easy... but I learn fast... :) So 6 weeks to go today... and all is looking good... For those interested I will keep you posted occasionally on my journey... and my mistakes... and my learnings... PS. Totally agree with Apal's post above... I think it is this simple... If you are an old fat ugly looser in your own world you will be an old fat ugly looser in the eyes of the 20 or 30 something beauty you are trying to impress from the FSU... any money you use to impress her will be money that she (or the agency) will reluctantly (or gladly) accept from you ... But that will not change the fact that you are an old ugly fat looser... (And that will also not change the fact that you will end up either Lonely or with a bought girlfriend from the Phillippines) If you are successful, sincere, presentable, and a gentleman your chances of meeting and succeeding in a relationship with a FSU beauty increases tenfold... My advice is simple.. GET OFF the agency or dating site "money go round" as soon as possible... talk to the girl directly... use Google translate if language is a barrier... get to know the girl well before even thinking about going to meet her... only go to meet her IF there are MORE common things between you than not.. make sure you laugh and understand each other... make sure she never asks you for money for anything... THEN your chances of success increase TENFOLD... Not that I have succeeded yet... but I think I am on my way... :) JayH Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/25/2012 8:39:21 PM   Great to hear--I was about to give up on this forum as too many being here wasting our time.I can give you contact details for apartment and airport collection. This guy knows exactly what docs he has to give you-- booking thru international agency--I have no affiliation-- but he was very helpfull one time when I was really in a big problem. Speaks english well-- answers sms and email!! Honestly-- it takes the pain out of your uncertainty. Make sure you read application for Visa carefully -and include addressed express registered return pre paid!! It will come back inside 14 days if it is all correct. To your lady-- make no assumptions-- either way. I have found girls to be conservative( compared to standards I was used to) -- so-- be prepared to move slowly.It is a tricky balance between your desires-- and he cultural background. You need to really earn her trust-- and you must respect that.Even more so if there is a big age difference.There are as many/or more horror stories from girls about visiting men-- as there are on the forums about being scammed.By the way-- I pay for EVERYTHING when I am with girl.For her friends,interpreter,taxis to and from her home-- everything. Do not be mean-- I am carefull with money so do not misunderstand me-- you most probably have a lot of money compared to her. NEVER think you are buying this girl. I like her attitude-=-it is credible!! Got another tip-- buy a local simcard to get a Ukraine phone number .Also one for your computer(it can even be the same one-but not what I do). I siggest LIFE-- they have stores everywhere that sell refills-- but go to a main store to get started-- someone will speak english-- you can see website in english so you can know what you need before you leave here. The cost is much cheaper than Australia. You can get decent data for phone and use Skype on phone also( I divert my Aus number to me Aus skype number-- so calls come as normal_) -- all very practical and works great in practice.I emphasize-- it costs virtually nothing by Aus standards and make life so much easier being able to give your local UKR phone number . Keep thinking as you go-- it is a lot of fun learning and seeing so much new./ The people are nice and generally more helpfull than others seem to think. Batman Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/25/2012 9:42:54 PM   Aussie In Love, Please expand upon this sentence: "The most surprising thing for me is this girl's insecurity about me" I'm curious what you mean by this and how much it pertains to the typical FSU girl. Thanks, Batman lonelyranger1701 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/26/2012 3:32:33 AM   Life: phones are popular in Odessa, but not in all of the other cites. My Ukrainian cell phone is through Life: , I bought a whole new phone there, not just the sim card. Some people complain that Life is too expensive for them to call, and they suggest Kyiv Star or MTC?? Life is only 1UAH per minute,,, about 8UAH to 1 USD If the apartment you haven’t seen yet turns out to be a dump, go to the London Hotel on Uspenskaya Str. http://www.london-hotel.com.ua/eng/ Soooo sweeeet!!! I went to the Ukraine for the same reasons!! AussieInLove Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/28/2012 1:57:29 AM   Hey Batman, It is interesting that you picked up on the most puzzling yet, now that I know a little more, understandable feeling that I am getting from my girl... If you read my story on another thread, you will see that I think this girl is absolutely gorgeous... she is exactly the woman I am looking for... in all aspects... physical as well as personality, attitude and mind... So I am totally into her... I would not even think about jeopardasing this relationship with her by looking elsewhere... YET... she does not believe me... she thinks that I am just another man, telling her what she wants to hear, promising her true love and all that, but really in the end I will just prove to be just like every other man she has known... a lier and a womnaniser... Now she has never ever quite put it that way herself... but that is the feeling I get... So her attitude is... "I will wait and see, but until then I do not believe you"... She thinks that I "MUST" have another girl here or there that I am seeing/talking to... She thinks that I am going there to meet with her as well as with others.. She thinks that she is just one of my "options"... So she is holding back on any emotions and any display of verbal affection... she is actually still trying to "win me".. to get me to "like HER"... In the mean time I feel the same way... I think surely this girl has many many other options open to her... Surely she is highly desirable among the men she sees every day on the street... So when she tells me she is going out with a girlfriend to bar or to a restaurant I say to her... "make sure that other men don;t try and pick you up"... AND SHE LAUGHS AT ME... !? I say "why are you laughing...?" and she says that other men would never try and pick her up because there are "hundreds" of other more beautiful (in her opinion), younger, available women for them... Now my girl is 34 and I am 45... but there, 35-60yo men apparently go for the 18-25yo girls... so my girl is well past it... which I find amazing.. but now understandable...! So, where I am sitting here, being all jealous and wondering where is she and what is she doing and who is talking to her... she is sitting there thinking (knowing in her mind because of her experience of Ukraine men) that I am a 45yo man who is out there trying to screw any 18-25 yo girl that walks by... The fact that I would never do that, because I am a one woman man, is not a concept that she can grasp (yet)... In terms of the typical FSU girl.. I think all people are a product of their environment... So if a girl has grown up seeing every 35-60yo man, married or not, going after and screwing anything that is young and hot and willing then she will "assume" that all men are like that... So the degree of skepticism towards a man that is different to the norm she knows, will be very high... this is not just FSU girl attitude... this is female human nature... so it would take a long time and consistency for an honest man (like myself) to prove to her that I am actually different to what she knows... BUT, as I have said to her repeatedly... that's OK.. time will tell... I have no problem allowing time to be the judge of my character... because I know who I am and what I do and what I don't do... only problem right now is she doesn't know yet... but she will... and then she will have no option but to fall in love with me... :-) George AussieInLove Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/28/2012 2:59:58 AM   JayH, thank you very much for your advice... I will certainly take it on board... I am here to learn and help and succeed... and if we can help each other even in a small way with positive constructive comments then that is what (I thought) this forum is all about... I have already arranged for VIP pickup at the airport from the apartments I have booked for my stay.. but if anything changes I will certainly take you up on your contact... I am certainly moving slowly now... As you may read elsewhere on my posts we already made the mistake of "going too far" which we both worked out pretty quickly was the wrong path and stopped it pretty much straight away... so now it is nice and slow and steady as it goes... And I will certainly take that approach when I am there... I am pretty good around a lady so I am pretty confident that once I am there all will be good... :) In terms of paying... I am Greek/Australian... so it is almost an offence for somebody else to pay (man or especially woman) when we are present ... LOL... so there is no way anybody is paying for anything while I am present... I don't get the attitude of some "Western" guys who bitch and complain because they had to pick up the restaurant bill 2-3-4 times in a row when they are out with "their" girl... and then they think that they were scammed because they paid for the food and taxi... This is where Americans, Aussies and Pommies don't get the European/Mediterranean culture... I have a file called "Ukraine trip" and any helpful info goes in there... I never thought I would say this ... but "Thank you Lonely..." for the VERY FIRST TIME you offered some constructive helpful advice... The style of the London-hotel is not what I would go for but it is good to have a back up plan... Now see...? was that so difficult...? was that so hard to be nice to another fellow man...? Lonely, if you go back and read all the "stuff" you wrote about me it was all based on 2 very WRONG assumptions... 1. that I was/had been/knew/wanted to be somebody called DANNY... and 2. That my whole story was BS... Why would I sit there and write BS... You have no idea who I am ... what benefit would I gain frmo writing lies about what I am doing... surely there is a little of logic somewhere in that wear brain of yours... Does it make sense that a man would anonymously write BS on a forum? what would be the upside for me? As you can read from all my posts, it's not exactly as if I need an ego boost... I already think I'm pretty amazing ... LOL (that was a joke Lonely, relax...!) So BOTH of your assumptions were wrong... and thus you embarked on a war path with me... and for what? where did it get you other than a whole lot of more negative stuff in your life... and really? can you really afford more negativity in your life...? Would it not be much better if we all just played nice ...? apal1 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/28/2012 4:01:05 PM   JayH - 100% in agreement with all you say. His advice is sound and to the point. Almost every single Ukraine girl I met was very conservative. Yes, some will post very sexy photos and be the exact oppositein person - in regards to personality perception, almost timid and shy to the extreme too. Agree on the fact you must earn her respect and trust. That is going to be the single hardest thing to do when courting a FSU girl from my own experience. Try to make a move too quickly on her? Step back two paces and lose a turn. Be patient, respectful and nurturing without unloading emotional need on her? Go forward five steps and get a free turn. ;) Simcards are a definate need. Fortunately I have a jaibroke smartphone. It's amazing how cheap cellular plans are there. I used LIFE ) and it was 54 UAH for a month. I got unlimited data and could use it all over Ukraine. Just have to match the cellular plan of whoever your calling and it can be the least expensive cellular phone plan on the planet. apal1 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/28/2012 4:10:57 PM   Aussie - as a Yank, didn't see the visa requirement issue. thanks JayH for spotting that one. I too am a gentleman and will always without question pay the tab, even at family dinners. I have one friend in Ukraine Dima from gotonikolaev.com, we had to fight for several minutes over who would pay the bill when we went to the restaurant to meet up again in Odessa. He won, but it was the only time I ever let anyone buy my own dinner for some time. ;) I also hear of the cheap guys complaining they are being scammed since they have to pay for the dinner, translator and taxis. Their girls make maybe $50-$100 a week at their job and they want the girl to pay for dinner and her own taxi to come meet him or she's a scammer? Geezus... Skype with family - that is an awesome sign that you completed that. It means she and her family are serious in the process. Her reservations about your sincerity - that is going to be what JayH mentioned... earning her trust. Ukraine guys is all she has known. Perhaps you are the first man she has attempted to have a real meeting with? If that is the case, she won't know what to expect and will be defensive and conservative. It is normal a girl will be guarded to protect her emotions. She doesn't want to suffer if things somehow go bad... you don't like her, or something happens and you don't show. All in all, it sounds like everything is on autopilot. Just play it cool, be yourself and all will be well. Just remember the golden rule, don't flood the emotions in, let them gradually fill the relation. She will be the one to set the pace, just go with the flow. It looks like everything is in great shape! lonelyranger1701 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/28/2012 8:49:48 PM   Aussie,,,, “Now see...? was that so difficult...? was that so hard to be nice to another fellow man?” The Pain,,,,,,,,, somebody stop the pain!!!! Lol I know how to play nice and I hate fighting, that’s why I was so pissed at you. There were too many coincidences for me not to respond the way I did! You named both me and martin (RnB) in your first reply/rebuttal,, and as far as I know,,,,, only one person hates both of us,, and that’s danny! I had only wrote two short sentences to you, and what martin wrote was accurate with the info you had provided to that point! New profiles appeared over night, all agreeing with you and against martin and I,,,, why? And danny was pouring gas on the fire at every step of the way! Didn’t you notice how he was coaxing and encouraging the feud ??? You were the best thing to happen to danny in years!! “Why would I sit there and write BS... You have no idea who I am ... what benefit would I gain frmo writing lies about what I am doing... surely there is a little of logic somewhere in that wear brain of yours... Does it make sense that a man would anonymously write BS on a forum? what would be the upside for me?” EXACTLY!!!! When it comes to danny,,,,,, sense and logic get thrown out the window!! Writing BS is what he does! Picking fights, arguing the same senseless point is what he does, every single day without fail for years! He might be on his 2nd decade now??!!! He has already said; “I’m not here to help anyone!!!! “ He is only here to antagonize!!! That makes him happy!!!! If you don’t believe me,,, just read his posts,,, he proves it everyday!! I really don’t care about where people are from,,, but when ‘whoever” gets into the FSU countries,, especially Ukraine,,, stuff happens. The country must have some kind of dark force presiding over it,,, I just can not explain it!? Last year about this time,, we had a group of guys from the US, wanting to open up a English school in Nikolaev! Sounds like a good idea????? No,,, not really!!! They told everyone about how they were also single and looking for their own girls! We were to find our girls,,,, and send them to a group of single American men,,,, who are also looking??? Trust us,,,,, we’re American!! No,, I don’t think so! I would feel better having an agency teach them! Look at all of the advertisements that are online everywhere!! There is money to be made there,,,, and I hate seeing people being taken advantage of. As for your story,, I also think you are on track. Having someone pick you up at the airport is a good idea,,, however,,, you will miss your first real experience of Ukraine! The taxi drivers!!! You will see them at the front doors, relentless!!! The London Hotel is nice, I have spent about ten days in all there. Prices start around 159USD! Some of their suites are close to 500USD! Cell phone shops are on every block in that area. The very worst hotel I have ever been in, during my lifetime, is just a couple blocks away, I spent 12 hours there!! The Zirka or Star Hotel! I asked my airport taxi driver about it while on route,,, he leaned over and said; It’s a $hit hole!! The way he said it with his accent, makes me laugh every time I think about it. But he was 100% correct! Your Reply: Your name:   New Registration Password:   Forgot password?   refresh Code:   Russian brides > Main Forum > This was fun while it lasted but no more ... Thanks...
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