Loosers blaime on others always. It is not they are bad its the entire world is wrong. Stay in your countries and stop coming here. Seems like the truth is that all who come here to find a woman is the ones who is not wanted in their countries. Indeed, it is a dissappoinment for both of sides. But for a fair notice it is known and good stories. Those never wine.... I have seen 60 years old men coming to meet with 20 y.o. girls. What are they looking for with such young girls? I disaprove such girls, too, though. But if you want to find something decent it is obviouse you have to try someone close to your age at least. Common sense. But to speak in general that all girls in Ukraine are just bad ones is simply stupid. We can tell that Americans are famouse as stupid nation. Here you go... Easy to insult anyone, eh...
By the way, a penny topics. I did not find my ex-husbands american on a not winning penny bahaiviour as well. How come he have became so happy on finding out he can buy his child a second hand clothe considering even underwear... As much counting how much of food has been eated by their girlfriends and then represnting a bill of how much he had to pay for her.
I think fundamentally what is wrong with this whole picture is that everyone here is "looking" for there love to be. I don't claim to be a Dr. Phil but from the advice given to me it is always said to let it happen, don't look for it, let it find you. Now while that may be true or not the truth is when you "are" looking for someone you create a list of qualities that you want in your partner and then start focusing on them and anything less than that dream of what your woman or man is supposed to be is unacceptable.
Say for example Yanna is looking for a strong man who is set up and can take care of himself and subsequently her and he fails at having a house mortgage, well he failed, he was looking for a beautiful, young, humble and frugal woman who he dreams is what a FSU girl is all about, and Yanna is strong willed and wants a stable comfortable life,...well that is failure from the beginning. Now, say Yanna and Mr. Ex husband met at a friends party, they talked, got to know each other, became friends and started having feelings for each other, well the circumstances would be different, they would care about each other by then and make the necessary sacrifices to co-exist. Morale of story: Keep on looking, but keep it simple.
Yanna I have found a russian woman she is not 20 nor am I 60 I have met other women is a huge differance in her and these others. Mine is not interested in a citezenship we have decided on differant plans you just sound like a woman thinking North American street are paved with gold. is opertunity here for all but is not free. Are you Ukrainian if so blame problems on your ever so honest Marriage agent, you know the one that would sell her soul. And you and your friends not once but many times.
“Loosers blaime on others always.”
Yanna,,, you and your ex are blaming each other,,,,,, so???
I think both are the victims of false propaganda?!! I don’t know how they met, but the websites and agencies have been peddling lies, and are giving everyone involved false hope.
Men are promised single, old fashioned women, who are family oriented!
Women are promised single, rich, generous, professional business men!
Everyone needs to do their own research, because you can’t believe everything you read online!!
Is always the way with these women no reason no defence no explanation. Once things seem not to go there way they just crawl back in there hole and wait for next victom. If they had any sort of moral value or reasoning ability maybe Ah whos kidding who They are cheats and thieves
About Lugansk - I have heard of the many scams coming from there as well.
But - I had the opportunity to go to a Romance Social there - the second one ever held (I think - whereas Odessa has something like 10 per year between AFA and Anastasia) and the women in Lugansk were incredible - not a lot of english speakers - but great ladies.
The only people who say bad things about Ukraine are LOSERS. only STUPID people get scammed. Most of you think girls in Ukraine are easy to f**k
thats why you get sent home with your d*ck in your hand. Plenty of stupid people come to Ukraine. I cant help it if you get scammed because you actually think 18 year old girl would really want to be with your fat ass. If you are a loser at home, you will be a loser in Ukraine too. Who really wants to be with a loser anywhere on earth. Thats why I hear so many sob stories. Fat old men who cant get a girl in thier own town are stupid to think they can do better anywhere else.
Women want a real man.
I remember when Lugansk had their 1st or 2nd social. I didn’t go, but I always paid special attention to the cities when they had the socials, because the girls I wrote to in the different cities were ALWAYS slow or late with their letters during that time. I would ask each one if they went to the socials,,,, and they always had an answer ready for me,,,,, “No“,,, because they would never go to such an event??!! Then,,, when another social would visit their city,,,, yeah,,, late again!
It could also be, that translators and interpreters from the local agencies worked at the socials and that is why the letters came late??
I once saw the statistics on where the scams were in Ukraine and how they were ranked. There wasn't much difference in the numbers of the major cities. Lugansk was number one, but their scams weren't that much more than number two, three, four or five.
As Rick4girl says " Most of you think girls in Ukraine are easy to f**k "
I have to admit - at every Romance Social THAT is one of the top three most prevalent incorrect ideas.
#1. A LOT of western men think that they are going to be invisible to younger Ukrainian women, just like they are in the US. I am in my 50's and I will admit that if I were to approach a 20 year old woman in a US singles bar - I would be completely invisible. She wouldn't even be able to see me well enough to determine if I was a great guy or not.
In Ukraine the woman WILL see you if you are 50 and approaching a 20 year old. She WILL talk with you and even consider you. But you have by NO MEANS won the game by only getting your foot in the door.
#2. Having been considered (and that point excited most men alone), western men think the deal is done. "Once she knows where I am from and what I have she will be falling at my feet." Nope. Oh - she will go shopping with you, and be available at a moments notice if you are willing, but thats NOT going to win her heart.
You have to be what SHE defines as "a man" to win her heart. You have to show strength, humor, understanding, compassion all of those things. And if you don't have those things - you CAN'T fake them.
#3. A lot of western men assume that they are going to go from step #1. just being noticed by a beautiful 20 year old (again a thrill to many in itself) to going to bed with her. Nope again. You have to go through step #2 for that.
She has heard EVERY come-on you can imagine. And she is not going to give it up for you just because she is willing to speak to you.
Lonelyranger: Was your Douglas reference regarding "The fir"?
It was a sentence fragment left over at the end of a post. Instead of numbering my points, I began writing "The first point...." and I never deleted it.
I understood what had happened, I sometimes add something or insert a sentence into a story on Word-Works by pasting. It doesn't always go where you want it.