Gemini: Just curious. What line of work are you in? I met a guy who did work with high building construction cranes, a high tensile strength steel expert. He went to places and stayed there similar to what you describe. Is your work anything like his?
jonas, when the marriage between older guy like 45 and girl of 22 works it is because of a variety of factors you dont seem
to understand. usually, the relationship develops over time, like 2 years and involves the 2 people spending lots of time together
and near daily communication because its during this time the girl and the man learn about the others character, lifestyle, etc.
the sexual aspect is only part of the equation. She is going to him because she trusts him completely and knows she is safe
and taken care of without feeling she will become his property. And yes, in case you are wondering, there is a certain father-daughter
aspect in which the man is teaching, correcting and helping her develop her own course as many girls in these relationships didnt have
that strong bond growing up.
At the core is usually an attractive and charismatic man and not some out of shape slob that makes her see beyond the age difference.
not all last but many actually do. just saw one sunday. He was 42, she was 24
Just to share my “success” rate, part 2
Most of you had already posted about this forum. It’s true that most girls that I had contacted, around 50 of them here, are married, have a local boyfriend (XOXO photos) or professional profilers. So I am very skeptical of Fiance.com and any that offers video chatting. I wonder why after I find them on another media site they refer me this site or another in which I have to pay for membership. Once they see that I have being in UA a few times, they stop replying. Talking about red flags!
Kaiserdag 37 out!
Just to share my “success” rate, part 2
Most of you had already posted about this forum. It’s true that most girls that I had contacted, around 50 of them here, are married, have a local boyfriend (XOXO photos) or professional profilers. So I am very skeptical of Fiance.com and any that offers video chatting. I wonder why after I find them on another media site they refer me this site or another in which I have to pay for membership. Once they see that I have being in UA a few times, they stop replying. Talking about red flags!
Kaisedag 37 out!
GD,, if you have been taking her along with you everywhere,, then there’s nothing wrong. But,,, if you were only spending a little time in Ukraine,,, here and there,,,, then I would say that you had no marriage at all! A lot of guys get sucked into a marriage for the sole purpose of paying the bills.
I would never marry someone in another country,,, and leave her behind! I wouldn’t be able to sleep at night!!
I talked to about 40 women. Half were scammers, some were game players. I narrowed it down to 3 and married an amazing and stunning woman. Be honest about yourself and your expectations. I am 37, extremely fit, make 100k a year and am very polite. If you're 50, fat, vulgar, and make 40k a year what do you expect?
I never married anyone over there!! Sniffing glue again danny??!
I can’t name any recently, but when I joined the forum there were several men who had done that,,, and regretted it.
I would never do such a thing anyway,,,,, but those stories are a good reminder.
No, is very easy to understand why you guys get scammed all time... even when the girls made you waste your money, time and effort you continue justifying them... and keep them like "good friends", not because they can be... but because you want to let them your doors open... How can anybody be friend of someone who cheated or scammed you? Is an stupid argument and maso idea
I read about these kind of people, I thought it was not possible but after read what people thinks here I'm sure this market of scammed man exists because very low self-esteem guys.
Jonas,
I strongly disagree with your last sentence, ' very low esteem guys '....
To the many men who have been honest in their expectations and choice of age difference between him and her, you have forgotten that these fucking agency people are paying these women for their photos and these low-life scum are very good at telling lies and working as a team to scam good men with good intentions.
Another big problem is the American agency people like AFA who know all about the scamming and lie to their male clients. A bucks a buck to a Yank!
Good posting Kaiserdag,
I hope new men read your post over and over again....Until it gets into their head, forget this FSU bullshit dating system..
Okay - I admit it - I read ANOTHER of Jamie's (smart a)'s posts.
He continues to whine and cry about agenies, paying women, buying photos, and AFA lying to their clients (meaning Jamie though he was going to get a farm raised virgin, but instead he found only REAL women at AFA Socials. Not ones grown on special farms for his $3,000).
He failed - and failed MISERABLY (not kust a little bit). So he hates accepting the idea that anyone else succeeds. It forces him to realize that he is a LOSER.
The experience is so much sweeter - when you know that guys like him are sitting home crying about it - because THEY can't do it.
Any person who starts this foreign dating uninformed,,, is going to be overwhelmed with dishonesty and corruption! You can’t believe a single word in any letter. You can’t believe anything you hear on the phone, skype, or chat. If you meet,,, you can not take anything at face value,,, you must continually be checking her honesty,,,,, and what kind of an relationship is that?
Very few people are successful. Some have successful vacations,,,,, but I fear it is only because there is another vacation on the horizon. The test of time is the only true test and very few can claim it.
It really doesn’t matter which agency or where. It’s ongoing legal crime in FSU!!
I agree and I am very much like Climber49er, except I do not $100k and still looking. But all you guys that live in the States but want to close the deal with a FSU woman, Good Luck! I am living in Europe, so I do my dating around here not back in the States. I met my ex-GF in Ukraine while I was working there for a few weeks. I date another one I found trough On-line dating site. Bottom line,(Epic failure) is a trial and error situation. Take in account the culture and language. The fact is that European women have a different attitude of family and social life compare to the USA. Also, eastern Europeans are different than western ones. Another fact, there are a different levels of attitudes between People from Lvov, Kiev and Odessa. Add to that, those living in cities vs. village. For my understanding, these girls (everyone) are very resourceful. I see them hitch a ride to get to work, charge a phone in McD’s and they know how to put a party together with barely any money. So save your money but if you want to be a Sugar Daddy and say yes to all her whims, you had set yourself to be scam over and over. (I guess I was so blind to see that , cause I was recently divorced. ) Fiance.com girls are mostly red flagged. If anyone knows about better dating or forum website for a greater “success rate “please post it. and thanks
Looney: Where does it say how many wonderful, incredible, "enjoy-every-minute" type trips to Ukraine one is allowed to take before one is required by law to get married?
I am really concerned about this because I haven't seen any laws or documents I am aware of that limit these fantastic trips. And I would HATE to go over my allowed limit?
Oh... whats that you say? You AREN'T required to get married, you say? You can have as many wonderful trip as yur hear desires and there is NO LAW about when you HAVE TO get married, you say?
You are only bringing it up because YOU are desperate to get married and a complete failure and you feel that, other people should have the same urgency that you feel (and have failed at) for yourself?
Looney YOU ARE a FAILURE, because YOU WANT to get married as soon as possible and CAN'T (NOBODY has that many pairs of $590 earrings).
I an a SUCCESS because I choose to get married when I am ready and I am not ready yet.
You need to STOP putting YOUR requirements for YOUR life on other people.
I am enjoying every moment, and have passed up several opportunities to get married - because I DIDN'T WANT TO. I know one as desperate as you can't believe that - but then I can get a girl to be with me WITHOUT giving her hundreds of dollars. And you have no idea how that is.
Sure Juntmba,,, take as much time as you want,,,, but call it what it is: SEX TOURISM!
If I met your girl,,, said the exact same things,,,, went to the exact same places, had the exact good time,,, I would call it a failure!! Why,,,, because I have higher standards!!!
Do you think you are the ONLY one to pass up opportunities to get married??? I am not desperate to marry anyone,,,, I’ll wait for the right one, or I won’t get married at all.
I think you’re just upset about being a sex tourist?!!! You’ve known for a long time that none of them will move here for you,,,, an old, self proclaimed “POOR” man,,, and decided to stay single, because you really have no choice in it anyway!!