The think the issue with me is that I can see how a younger woman would want an older guy, maybe (daddy issues) but I do not see how a guy would want a younger woman,...relationship wise especially. Any girl old enough to be my daughter,...I just could not, would not. While there is obviously no moral issues against it, it's just a mental block I could not work my way around which other guys obviously can. No shes not my daughter, but there is another guy out there my age who is there daughter,......and if it were my daughter I'd put my boot to her ass. Just sayin'
I don’t think it’s too hard to understand the desire or attraction. Guys have always been attracted to younger women for various reasons.
Dating someone who is at least 18 years old is legal here. Dating someone who is at least 16 years old is legal in Ukraine,,,, but I think our American laws apply. So,, it’s still 18 for us,,, but,,, just because it’s legal, doesn’t make it right!
Some guys are dating girls young enough to be their daughters,,,, or even grand daughters! How would that look to have a romantic dinner with your grand daughter??
Wonder why some guys are choosing not to marry and bring them home?????
And Yes Jetmba,,, we are ONLY talking about you!!!
You wouldnt consider a girl (woman) old enough to be your daughter, so if you were aged 70 then any woman would need to be aged atleast 54 years, you wouldnt consider 53, 52, 51. 50, less than 50 years of age?
And if a girl is within ten years of YOUR age - couldn't you use the same logic and say it would be like dating your SISTER. Thats incest TOO you know.
I would be disgusted by a man dating his sister - just as much as a man dating his daughter.
I guess what I am saying say if and when I am in my 50's and happily married, and my daughter brought her new boyfriend/husband over to introduce him to me. I opened the door and a man my age walks in the door hand in hand with her I would be horrified. If I was the man walking through the door I would be so embarrassed.... but like I said its more a personal issue with myself than it is with anybody else.
blue_craze: Ever see the movie or musical "Fiddler On The Roof"? Its about about a Russian Jewish family living in the city of Annatevka preCommunist Revolution.
Tevya (the patriarch)'s daughters come of age he enlists the services of a matchmaker. They have little money or dowry, but the family celebrates when the oldest daughter Tzeitel is matched to Lazar Wolf a butcher and widower who is as old or older than Tevya.
She has her own ideas of course and falls in love with a tailor Motel Kamzoil, about the same age and THAT is a hard sell for the wife Goldie and the community - but the tradition of the time had no problem with her being betrothen to a much older man - the same age as her father.
Things have changed of course - but that was the social norm for hundreds of years.
Ah, now we know what caused jetmba's inspiration to chase young girls in 3rd World countries.
" and my daughter brought her new boyfriend/husband over to introduce him to me. I opened the door and a man my age walks in the door hand in hand with her I would be horrified. "
Jetmba. coyote, boasted on the forum, the Mother of his 21 year old 'girlfriend' , was 14 years younger then him.
I wonder what is going through her mind when she laid eyes on ol' jetmba. coyote?..." Fuck he looks old, has he got any money? "
Yes, but that was families match making there daughters for political gain, financial gain, and social status gain. Families would marry off there 13 year old daughters to grown men hundreds of years ago. Was it right then? Of course not, was it the norm, yes it was.
I guess the right word for extreme age difference relationships in this day and age would be called Taboo. While the morality of it is up to the individual, it is socially frowned upon in most corners of the world. But hell, look and Hugh Hefner, biggest playboy in the world, hell he created the term playboy and playboy....he is what he created. Like I said, if my 20 year old daughter brought home a 50 year old man he will be running from my property as fast as he can and that's a promise to all the future middle age men out there ;)
Jetmba seems a little desperate trying to rationalize going almost half way around the world to “hook-up” with 21 year olds!!
“And if a girl is within ten years of YOUR age - couldn't you use the same logic and say it would be like dating your SISTER. Thats incest TOO you know. “
“I would be disgusted by a man dating his sister - just as much as a man dating his daughter”
Don’t you think sex with your/a daughter would be worse than sex with your sister???? I thought you were a parent jetmba???
"Fiddler On The Roof"?
Using an old movie to rationalize sexually relations with a 21 year old??!
Because fools rush in where angels fear to tread...
It seems to me that most people don't distinguish between social norms, and morality -- they stir them together to make an incoherent mess.
I regret to say that in the country of my birth, marriage between "white" and "black" people was at that time prohibited (through a great part of its territory) by law. Interracial marriage was, certainly, quite unusual then, and far from the social norm of the time. But I'm sure that a lot of people were passionately convinced that such marriages were "morally wrong."
I knew a couple who married in the early 1950s with the bride several years older than the husband (rather less than 10 years difference, as I recall) -- and a divorcee to boot. I was told that at the time, their marriage was considered by many to be scandalous and repulsive. I expect that today, such a match would be noted as a bit unusual, but hardly improper.
So, I'm deeply skeptical of "codes of right and wrong" when they are based on gut feelings, ancient texts, etc. An awful lot of "morality" is simply camouflaged prejudice, envy, etc. I'm interested in moral arguments that apply reason to considerations of human rights, agency, and dignity, and the overall well-being of society.
Dang, I wish someone told me this a couple years ago! I'm now working on getting a visa for a woman 20 years younger than me who already agreed to an air tight pre nup. If only this chick had told me l was wasting my time! Now in 6 months she will be here and a confused creepy old man will be married to a smoking hot ex model with a prenup! What will I do? Worse yet, she was an agency girl!!!! How do I save myself????
But to keep the peace I truly hope it is true and all happiness. A prenup is good, it shows she is not greedy. On the other hand when she gains legal status,...will she want to stick around, I truly hope so, I hate negativity even if it does not belong to me.
Tom,,, there is a big difference between 34 and 20 years!! You are much younger than Jetmba and your girl is much older, 26 -28 I believe. She has a professional career as a teacher or doctor,,, a little different than a shy little 21 year old girl.
Perhaps the biggest difference between you and jet,, you are trying to make an honest girl out of her,,, and not just flying over a couple times a year for a booty call!!