I think he just was not taught not to lie and make up stuff. That is a tragedy because that is what he is teaching his kid. Children will follow what you do, not what you say.
Sorry about the stings Durak....unfortunately it is part of the process.
Apparently what you are looking for and what she is looking for does not cross very often. And it really stings when she seems right for you and she could care less!! Ouch
after reading your post Durak.........I am convinced you should shoot more arrows and don't dwell so much on the possibilities for they can produce more sting in the venum. Good luck my brother....
Durak,
I have actually become numb towards this whole thing about them we are being sold on and from extending myself to be kicked in the teeth. I expect to be let down .Its an expensive crapshoot costing your feelings and your hard earned money. I feel your pain... That vampire from Kyiv is still trying to get me to send her money.
Durak, what a coincidence! I just received a "dear John" letter from a woman today! This was after three months of constant letters. She used such tempting words as "my beloved," "hot kisses," and all that. Then, she made up a lie as to why she would not be available for a week or so. After that I get a letter...she has met someone else. I even sent her flowers for Christmas. That's OK. There will always be others.
"I can understand that feeling Durak. When my ex wife started talking divorce in 2006 i started looking around at options and supposed since
Ukraine was a good place for me anyway I focused my initial search there. Even knowing the way of life, culture and such still didnt prepare me for
the "agency experience". I got my hopes up a few times only to have them crushed when meeting a girl in real life and yes it stung."
Attraction is a two way street. What seems ideal to one can be a negative to another. The relationship should be a shared connection, not totally borne and sustained by one side.
Durak might I suggest that instead of just writing to the women that are exactly what you want, I don't think everybody comes across as clearly as who they are from their profile so what I would do was write every girl that I saw any promise in. I would write a form letter and just change their names but it wasn't just a form letter ask lots of questions it is very sincere very open and I can only remember very few women that didn't respond. It might be that you're limiting yourself. You know if you throw a hundred handgrenades you will hit something and if you go meet these girls are spend time writing to them, you might find a great one.
Each time I looked at my wife's profile I passed right over it. She was living in a fantasy land reading her profile. "I want a man who can take me to the stars, and he knows the way". Really? But once I drank a few too many beers and wrote her, it was the warmest sweetest letter I ever got. We wrote literally hundreds of times in 4 months, like 400.
Anyway the point is don't look for perfection in a profile. Give it 20 letters before you decide. My wife is very down to earth, she was just indulging a fantasy while she wrote her profile.
“I don't think everybody comes across as clearly as who they are from their profile so what I would do was write every girl that I saw any promise in.”
Tom Shea,,, elaborate on that! If you could put a % on the different qualities,,, what would the qualities and the % be?
I did a thorough search for my first trip,,,, and learned that nothing was the way it should have been. For the 3rd trip,,,, I redoubled my efforts and I was going through hundreds perhaps thousands of profiles just to find a few to write to.
Ive never said I didnt try the agency thing looney. I just learned quickly that it was not the right avenue for me.
Admittedly it does suck when you spend a lot of time with a girl that you think is the one and it doesnt work out.
there was a couple of girls before that who had made big promises via email and messaging and then you discover the truth is not in what they said prior to the meeting. But then again that was more than 6 years ago. Ive learned alot since then. Still not understanding the point you fail to make when you resurrect threads.
THE POINT REMAINS LOONEY, YOU ARE OBSESSED WITH ME!!!!!!! If you werent obsessed with me the n why else would you go through all the time and trouble to harass me?
I think your post once again proves my point! Im not gay looney! I do not want you never have, never will.
your obsession has now exposed itself for the creepiness it is!
You are lucky Im not a female as you would have been arrested for stalking a long time ago!
all the evidence is right here on this forum.
Rick: “THE POINT REMAINS LOONEY, YOU ARE OBSESSED WITH ME!!!!!!!”
Rick,,,, YOU ARE OBSESSED WITH YOU!!!
You bring up the gay thing just like danny does,,, and it is just as bogus!!
You insult anyone who questions you,, you insult anyone who says something about Ukraine, agency girls and their scamming ways.
You just went after someone else named rick for not being able to spend 4 months in Ukraine! I’ve got news for you,,, almost nobody can!! It’s not about being able to afford it,,, it’s not being able to get away for so long! Who can walk away from their job and their family!!
Rick: “Still not understanding the point you fail to make when you resurrect threads.”
I love beating people over the head with their own words!!!
Rick: “I got my hopes up a few times only to have them crushed when meeting a girl in real life and yes it stung."“
When that happens to you,,,, it’s the agency, or just the way it goes?? But when it happens to anyone else,,,, it’s THEIR fault???
Rick: “I got my hopes up a few times only to have them crushed when meeting a girl in real life and yes it stung."“
thing is, looney, that some of us learn from our experiences and some of you dont.
LR wrote: "You just went after someone else named rick for not being able to spend 4 months in Ukraine! I’ve got news for you,,, almost nobody can!! It’s not about being able to afford it,,, it’s not being able to get away for so long! Who can walk away from their job and their family!! "
ABSOLUTELY CORRRECT!!! its NOT always about being able to afford it but for half the men on agency sites it likely is as MORE than half the men who post a profile seeking a lady WILL NEVER COME!!! They, like some I know, live in an online fantasy world.
Some others are better off looking at home because they fail to learn critical lessons from the first or even 3rd visit. they think "maybe if I go through thousands of profiles I just might find the one who is willing to marry me after 3 months of letters and spending a week in Ukraine twice a year"
Its about being serious about if finding a foreign wife is what you really want. Just like in the west, starting, nurturing and cementing a relation takes time and effort and most importantly, BEING TOGETHER! If you cannot make the investment in the time required then you are wasting your time.
once or twice a year just isnt going to cut it. that's not a commitment, that's a vacation
Lonely, let's face it. First thing I do is to open profiles. If you aren't attracted to them why waste your time. If I was attached to them I would read their profile. If they sounded down to earth and rational I wrote them. What I meant about the profile was that some people don't articulate who they are in 4 sentences. I wrote literally hundreds of women and got letters back from most. If they seemed reasonable and articulate, I wrote back, I mean it cost me nothing. After 12 or so letters there should be some feeling there of excitement to go meet her. If not I stopped writing.
Kind of just the opposite of the op. He only wrote to one's he loved at first sight, and I wrote to those that didn't turn me off