beemer18, scam is that the passport costs 400-650grn not $150 :)
Lonely, what trick?
Durak, your russian is very funny :) i needed to read twice to understand what you wrote :)
Now just for the woman's side of this discussion . Five years ago an unmarried couple, man from the west and a Ukrainian woman, traveled to Dubai. WHile the man was at the bar, his lady was alone in the room. She was brutally raped and beaten by a hotel employee. The powers that be determined that she was a prostitute for behiving in such a manner and no charges were brought against the man, who in the west would be an assailant.
RT,, the same can be said for ocean cruises. The laws might have changed a little in the past few years,,, but before that, victims of crimes committed in International waters may not get their justice.
Someone I had wrote to for a short time was planning another trip to the Middle East,,, and I simply told her to be careful, because it can be a dangerous place for young pretty girls. She freaked out! She told me that she was treated far better by the people in those countries, compared to westerners. My reply was: “Well of course you are treated well in the beginning,,,,, they want you to stay!! Some people there still cling to their old ways,,, where women are bought and sold like cattle.” That didn’t go over too well! Lol And I didn’t care,,,, that particular person and her friends are professional vacationers! It might do them some good to be bite in the butt a little.
Something I saw in Sumy struck me as a little strange,,,, A Dubai café and a Dubai travel agency? Why would they place a travel agency there?? Sumy is a nice city,,, but not a rich one. The very first thought I had about that,,, was the girls! I wonder if they have a lot of “one way” flights??
First, moyarishka has an exceptionally keen intellect.
Second, my sincere apologies to all, if I ever suggested or otherwise gave any impression that I'm a "normal person." When I was just a boy, a took a look at what is considered normal, and understood that it's not for me. (If you need a reminder, just look at my forum avatar.) I think lonely does a fine job representing the normal guys on this forum.
Moya,,, the trick of translating the “gibberish” that durak’s Russian turns into, when posted on the forum.
The trick still works,,,, I haven’t used it for a while,,, and I forgot to decode or encode it “before” translating. I went through all of the different versions and found “Cyrillic (windows)” to be the one that worked.
Durak,,, there is nothing wrong with being normal! Many people,, on the forum or otherwise,,, can not make such a claim. However,,,,, I sincerely doubt that you meant it as a complement. And it was not received as a complement!
Rb,, I wasn’t upset about being called normal,,, but rather my spelling mistake. Sometimes I use MS Works Word, not just for the spell check, but for the larger print and so I don’t lose my work when typing.
It sometimes has “auto-correction” and will properly spell the word without me knowing it,,,,, but not always the right word. I either misspelled the twice, or it was MS Word.
After posting, I went back to delete that letter and saw the mistake immediately,,,, I quickly posted the correction before anyone else could comment.
Most of your argument is about money?? Then why go anywhere other than Ukraine or Russia. The flight is cheaper, the hotels are cheaper. Some places I’ve jokingly called: free!!
Do parents frighten you DUNT??? They probably worry that they won’t ever see their daughter again after meeting you??
eliaabdul, you do ask the impossible question.
but i'm going to turn this around, so think about it, dont take this personal because its only my opinion and sometimes things aren't so simple..
personally if i was her brother she wouldnt get close to dubai to meet someone she didnt know.
you should be going to her..
if this was my sister, and she snuck off to maybe dubia,, i think i would be having a very intimate conversation once i got hold of the guy who put this into play.
by the way,, i wouldnt give a toss if he was built like a T34 tank, its about ethics, showing a family you have them in mind regarding her.
family is sacred to many if some havent noticed and if you are doing this for a future family, why would you insult her family in making them feel very uncomfortable regarding her safety.
they dont know you.
to me such a idea is part scam in it self, like a lolly to a child, the plane trip to some namely place which is really full of people that have their own rules in reality.
so to me as any concerned family member i feel what type of person do have we here?
self-interest before safety of someones child isnt a good start for any family yeah.
people forget when dating someone like this it really involves her family also, this isnt a small thing.
one should give her family the respect they deserve then sneaking their daughter cousin aunt off to some unknown place.
if getting scammed in ukraine is a problem then tough luck, such will help to use ones brain as one should then putting some good soul in a vulnerable position.
is this my slarv side speaking, no my 93 year old British Gran would have his nuts also when she got hold of him.
than a whole lot of grovelling would be needed, i would dealt he would secede.
do it right, go to her, put her family at peace before trying such,,, thats what "supposedly" good guys do
moyarishka,, maybe she is wanting to fast track her passport, is there really a standard "under the table" price for this?
my girl came to NZ with some interesting fast tracked credentials(car licenses and such)
hers was more of having to travel to get legally ones, but in her home town such could be done illegally at another price.
so one could take the 700km trip or stay home.
i would love to know how some of these actually stacked up to a full check in their system.
technically they are the real thing.