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	Create New Topic   My Posts   My forum buddies   Invite friends   Private messages Russian brides > Main Forum > To the new and the older gents here. Author Post lonelyranger1701 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/5/2013 1:55:22 AM   Tom,,, what’s the old saying,,,, I’m keeping one eye open?? Well,,,, one eye is ¼- ½ open. I’ve posted several times the stats of one scammer watch site,,,,(2008 INS) 4 out 100 men will marry an FSU woman,,,, but only one of those four marriages will last more than three years.(1%) If I need to write to a 1,000 women,,,,, that’s 0.10 % OUCH! I can honestly say,, that won’t happen. I still get “Intro” letters on AOB, and I look at the new profiles on this site. I can open one letter for free each day on AOB,,, and I haven’t opened one in weeks. I really do look through hundreds of profiles to find a single woman to write to. When I do find one, my first step is to look for her on other sites,,, and if she is on more than one or two, I skip her. My next step is to look for her on Vk and fb,,, to see just how many friends she has,,, where they are from, and to see how many boyfriends she has. You wouldn’t believe how many have boyfriends,,, or photos of guys hanging all over them. If a girl has passed the tests so far,,,, I’ll then look for her on scammer watch lists. Then I’ll do a google search for her,,, and then yahoo, Ask, mail.ru. Rambler,, and one other Russian site that I’ve forgotten,,,, yarnex?? And it’s not just that I find them on these sites,,,, it’s what I find!! I’m sure everyone here thinks this is way too extreme,,,, but,,, this is how I found out, that everyone I’ve met and many that I’ve wrote to were scammers,,, or at least time wasters. If a woman would ever pass all of these tests,,, she then has to love,,, or at least like the countryside! I won’t even mention Proverbs-31 to her!! Lol The women of today will smite Durak in the nuts over that!! lonelyranger1701 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/5/2013 4:54:47 AM   "And then you said once before you woulnt want your dream FSU girl to meet people of her own kind in USA ." No,, that was someone else,,, I remember that,,, but I'm not sure who it was. The reason for that, is because they can be lured into a life of crime. I some what agree with it. Scorpio1951 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/5/2013 12:53:24 PM   Hello Durak, You have quoted just a marvelous passage with beautiful wisdom from Proverbs. Thanks for taking the time to share Proverb 31. Perhaps Proverb 31 describes the woman we all are looking for, but seldom find. Sad, but I guess we just keep on looking. Sincerely, John Rick4girl Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/5/2013 1:07:39 PM   None of my FSU friends in the States are into crime. All are very family oriented and hard working. Many own businesses. As far as being lured into crime, It really depends on geographical location in the states and the morality of the girl. Girls in Miami, for example, are more susceptible to being lured into strip joints and prostitution. However, If you take care of her, treat her right and set the boundaries then there should be no problems. I think its essential for the girl to meet ex pats from her country as they can help her based on their own experiences. If the stats you mention are accurate LR, then that means there are at least 12,000 potential "right ones" for every guy looking. or if 1 in a thousand, 12 perfect girls that you have to locate from the million eligible girls that fit the age range you seek. Its already been said, its simply a numbers game just as it is in the US or anywhere. Ive gone out with 3 ladies locally in past 2 months and while they "look good on paper", they werent for me. There is no difference between looking abroad or at home except culture. lonelyranger1701 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/6/2013 3:56:16 AM   I’m not looking for a woman who lives in a bubble,,, just one who doesn’t live a life of crime! You would think a guy who claims to have had 30-35,000 stolen from him would understand this??? I don’t just look for dirt either,,, but a history trail that shows she is living a normal life! I learned a lot more about most girls on my own,,, than what they shared with me in letters. Girls that don’t share personal info with you aren’t interested in a future with you,,,, just your money! The last girl that I made the trip for the last two years,,, had a brother and a cousin that went to college in California!! I never knew she had a brother!! I found this out on my own! The brother lived in Kiev during my time with her,,,, it was first planed to meet in Kiev,,,, shouldn’t she want to introduce him to me?? I found out that she was like a city councilman in the city where she lived and worked! She never wrote one word about it! I found photos of her in another man’s profile,,, he also had other women’s pics. But these photos show her wearing maternity clothing,,, and carrying a bulky bag over her shoulder. She is also a little,,,,, dumpy looking in the photos,,, about 30lbs overweight. I never heard one word about her having a child. Her vk profile was started by the interpreter,, she downloaded the first photos into her profile. She was online very seldom,,,, and the only activity on her profile was friends or family sending holiday e-cards to her. Never a personal post. Her parents worked at a fireworks factory in their home town, I asked if it was the famous gun powder factory in Shoska? It took several letters for her to confirm that it was the same factory. Obviously,,, the person doing the writing didn’t know enough personal details of my girl,,,,,, falsified letter delay!! Then,,, there was the grievous, deal breaking lie, that I tricked the interpreter into admitting! With all of her lies and omissions,,, they was no way in hell that she was seriously looking for a foreign husband. And this was one of the sweetest and pleasant acting and looking girls on the site! How much worse could the professional scammers and pro daters be. Do we really want to marry a girl from this corrupt society?? We often speak about the time and monetary losses in our searches,,,, but the most hurtful is the emotional investments we have in our girls,,,,, and they could care less about us!! I think I’m done with this,,,, the emotional toll is too great. It’s affecting my quality of life. This was the story of just one girl! I have many more!! Everyone who is thinking about finding a FSU woman for marriage, better be prepared for the investment in time, money a emotional toll,,,, or you will continue to make worthless trips to the FSU! Tom Shea Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/6/2013 11:54:12 AM   Lonely you say that 1 in 100 marriages last more than 3 years? The numbers from the US State dept says only 19% of American men fsu marriages last less than 3 years. I have seen a much lower number for American men all immigrant women number. I have checked her face book. Maybe 30 friends...mostly women and family. Maybe 3 unrelated guys, all from the area she lives and when you go to their page they are married. She has no vk page and has herself listed as engaged on Facebook. It was single until I asked her. An internet search resulted in a few hits but it was for a semi famous singer with the same name. None for her. No reference at all on any scammer sites. I also had a great opportunity, and knowing about her what I do now, I'm a little ashamed I took it. She had a digital camera for nearly 4 years and well over 1000 photos on it. We were on vacation and it became full. I had my lap top so she asked me to burn the photos to cds for her. She saw I was copying them to my hard drive and kind of freaked out. She said they were her pictures not mine. So I deleted them once they were burned to cds. One day she went to the grocery store to get some food and I copied the cds to my lap top. When I was home I went over every photo. There were a total of 4 men in the pictures. Her dad, her brother in law, her soon, and her cousin...all of which I had met at her parents house our at our engagement dinner. I've got a good friend who is a cop. I told him about this and he laughed. While commending me on my sleuthing abilities, he told me "now delete those pics so she never find them" which i did. She has now moved in with her parents since she sold her condo in anticipation of her move to the US. I often call her on Skype and get her child, sister, or parents and have a good conversation with them all, some speak better English than others. No one is in a hurry to get off of Skype. At or engagement dinner, after asking her dad to marry her and my public statement of why I loved her more than any other woman in my life, i got her dads permission, then kneeling in front of her, speaking quietly to only her, her mom busted out wailing...it was kind of funny. But the point is these are not the things scammers do. Yes, do your homework. Take advantage of opportunities that drop in your lap to check. Explain long before the engagement that there will be a harsh prenup if she bails. Test her honesty 100 times, then sleep well with your choice. kaiserdag Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/6/2013 10:19:19 PM   When you are playing detective, hold your horses on jumping into conclusions. Those girls who are serious contenders will have adjusted from old to present relationships. They acts should reflected, that they are not holding to the past but hoping for something new. Let’s not go through the roof by noticing she have male friends from overseas too. Only the pictures tell 1k words. Do not pay too much attention on her FB page, only VK and Classmates are the most used social sites; if she has just a few friends than probably is not her main page. After 45 days of wasted time and money in Fiancee.com. My simple rules are Google her name or she if she does not have VK, Classmates or FB = red flag using a fake name or had disable the VK search engine. It does not matter if she is on a picture on bikini or a dress after a few lines of intro, move quick to video or voice calls and then fallow by video chatting. Talking to pretty pictures is pretty silly; probably she (in the picture) is a guy in Africa or an underage kid. If she cannot Skype in the evening or night give you her phone #’s = red flag she is not available for you! Most likely she is married. Like Tom said, “Yes, do your homework. Take advantage of opportunities that drop in your lap to check.” Only those who have faith will keep on looking wisely for a woman according to Proverbs 31. Just do not be so picky and do not wait for the perfect woman. lonelyranger1701 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/7/2013 1:33:41 AM   “ well your a control freak ...exactly what women should avoid “ Say’s the guy who had a job lined up for his girl on “THE DAY” she arrived!!! I always need to remember, that when danny disagrees with me,,,, it’s a great thing!!! I know I’m doing the right thing and it’s positive reinforcement for me!! Thanks DUNT!!! I’m not controlling anyone,, I’m choosing and selecting the right person for me! If I do a good job of it,,,, there won’t be any need to control anything. About the number of male friends on fb or Vk,,,, why would I want to throw my hat into the ring with dozens or hundreds of other men?? Being 8 & 9 time zones away,,, it’s impossible to compete with a local man. And I won’t throw money at her. lonelyranger1701 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/7/2013 2:11:53 AM   Rick,,, I think danny is mixed up about two different stories from 1 & 2 years ago! At least 2 years ago, Ralph started a thread about human trafficking, and I added a post to it. The basic story was about human trafficking in NY city, girls thought they were being brought over for legit jobs,,,, only to be taken away as sex slaves! The story also stated that in most cases, it was other FSU people here in the states, doing the kidnapping and extortion, making threats against their families back home. The 2nd story was about a happy US/FSU couple living in the USA. After being married for several years I guess,,, a former boss and maybe lover of the wife came to town. He wanted her to work for him again,,, broke up the marriage, took her and a child. After that the wife wouldn’t even speak to her former husband. I think a few others posted similar stories like the one I just told,,,, but I wasn’t the one who posted them originally. Rick,, you have me confused about those stats. The stats that I posted were from the INS in 2008. It said,,,, for every 100 men who either join a website,,,, or make the trip to the FSU (I’m not sure which anymore) only 4 out of the 100 men will get married. And of those 4 men/marriages, only 1 (25%) will make it past 3 years! I have no idea how many make it past 2 years?? The difference or wiggle room between my stats and Tom’s,, is that I don’t how many years after their wedding are they counting? Years ago, getting a “greencard” took 2 to 3 years,,, with a few exceptions. Ralph’s wife received her’s after just 12 months. They use 2 and 3 years as a benchmark,,, the time it takes for a woman to get her greencard and freedom from her marriage. lonelyranger1701 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/7/2013 2:46:33 AM   No Tom,,,, I’m saying for every 100 men who join a website or fly over to the FSU,, only 4 will get married. But of those 4 marriages, only 1 or 25% will still be married after 3 years. You provided a link on another thread, but I haven’t viewed it yet. We are currently experiencing a thunderstorm here,,, lights are flashing on and off. I need my sleep too,,,, I have a summertime cold this week,,,,,,, aughfffff I feel like $xxt. About your “sleuthing abilities”,,,,,, you don’t know if there is anything to find,,, unless you look!! My experience has shown me, that you can’t look deep enough. I told the story about one girl,,,,, I found a shxt load of shxt on other girls. It’s nauseating that a guy needs to do this much research on a girl. Never had to do this around home. About fb friends and photos,,,, my famous ex (earring girl) has a lot of friends, both male and female. But of her photos,,,,,,, not one photo of her with anyone??? No girlfriends, no male friends,,, no boyfriends,, no co-workers,,, just photos of herself and a few places she went on vacation! Her profile is TOO clean!!! It makes a guy wonder what she is hiding. My sleuthing abilities found pictures of her co-workers,,,, in their profiles,,,, but she’s not in them,,,, even though she is listed as a “co-worker”?!! Things that make you go Hmmmm!! lonelyranger1701 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/7/2013 3:34:54 AM   Some refreshing info on our special little danny! Harvey Member send PM send PM block PM send PM add to buddies Send: 01.01.2012 18:39:28 Report to Moderator ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- danny --are you fucking retarded? SERIOUSLY, ARE YOU FUCKING RETARDED????? WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU? YOU FUCKING IDIOT. YOU SENT ME A LINK TO YOU GIRLFRIEND'S FACEBOOK PAGE. YOU SAY I GO AFTER OTHERS' WOMEN ON THE INTERNET. YOU ARE A FUCKING JOKE!!! I GAVE YOU THE BENEFIT OF DOUBT. I THOUGHT MAYBE YOU HAD SOME DECENCY. YOU SENT ME LINK TO YOUR GIRLFRIEND. I FRIENED HER BUT NEVER HEARD BACK AND LEFT IT AT THAT. I NEVER SAW HER PHOTOS OR ANYTHING ABOUT HER. SO I CANNOT - AND SHOULD NOT - COMMENT ON WHETHER SHE IS A DOG OR NOT. I DON'T CARE AND NO-ONE ELSE SHOULD. BUT THAT YOU CONTINUALLY ATTACK JUST ABOUT EVERYONE YOU DESERVE THE SHIT THAT PEOPLE GIVE YOU. durak Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/7/2013 4:52:33 AM   @Scorpio AKA John: Almost exactly two years ago, I got the news that a Ukrainian friend's grandma had died. In 2008, I had the great privilege of spending a few days at her little village home. I made a post about her on this forum, see this link: http://tinyurl.com/lzfj7cc Not long afterward, I happened to run across those verses from Proverbs, and sent them to my grieving friend. Though few of us may be lucky enough to ever meet such a woman today, I believe that elderly Ukrainian lady came very close in her life. kiwinorth Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/7/2013 7:55:25 AM   arr yes i remember that Durak, quite a experience,,, actually they are world wide are they not. i visited homes like such there, those wells:) they looked at me strange when i said "hey pump" the thatch roofs, fire ovens with ducting systems through the little houses. horse and carts. then yes the old who are far more ahead in understanding in living. the very people that bring realism to our tehco world today. i love talking to my 93 year old gran, the story's are just not real,,, but they are. and again theres my other side, grandfather the oldest of many (rip) who was put on a ship in Croatia by his parents to NZ when he was 12, a sack was his bed in this country for many years in front of a wood stove been used as slave labour. his very strength grew a small family empire here and more so back in Croatia off his very own back. imagine his mum watching her eldest son leave in the 1800'S on a ship, possible for ever. it wasn't:) his wife, my gran(also rip) was a mail order bride from his village, rather funny really:) we may dish a lot out about ukraine and its ethics but people need to realize it is only on the front of international dating and the scheming parasites that it pulls. as in sleuthing,,,, is it really? if someone tickles you do you not react with in reason. to giggle or have abominus laughter is two different things. tom, its not worth mentioning, i would have done the same in those circumstances,,, a overreaction is her mistake, usually a sign of something a miss isn't it. Tom Shea Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/7/2013 12:05:32 PM   Kaiserdog, get real man. She doesn't have a fake name unless shes also got a fake passport (that works) and has filed for a visa under a fake name. Come on man Im not bringing some bimbo over here that I met last week. Rick4girl Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/7/2013 12:11:28 PM   kiwi. great experiences our elders had that they and others like them shaped the world for years to come. In many aspects, the world in general hast lost respect for others and the kind of human compassion mixed with perseverance that made those generation great. Lonely says Ukraine is a cesspool of corruption but thats simply not true. Sure there are some bad seeds but the vast majority of people arent really any different from normal folks in America. Ukrainians tend to be more pragmatic and private but if you take the time to know their history then its easy to understand why. Ukraine has endured much adversity in the last 100 years but managed to preserve the language, culture and traditions as well as pride in the country. Im not going to pass on the chance to find out info on a special girl if it is available to me but is regardless of whatever country she lives in. Ukraine certainly doesnt have the market cornered on scammers. There are plenty of them in the USA too. If you want a place with little likelyhood of being scammer then you are better off going to central America. Its full of honest, sincere and humble ladies who you can marry. lonelyranger1701 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/7/2013 12:34:19 PM   Wasn’t it : The FSU/Ukraine dating world is a cesspool of corruption?? lonelyranger1701 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/7/2013 12:51:24 PM   “If you want a place with little likelyhood of being scammer then you are better off going to central America. Its full of honest, sincere and humble ladies who you can marry.” Rick,,, I hope you are being sarcastic?? About a year ago we had a member called “Apal 1” who claimed to have owned or at least ran some dating agencies in South America. I’m quite sure he NEVER called them honest! Rick4girl Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/8/2013 12:00:56 AM   Not sarcastic. Its very true. I could marry someone tomorrow in Nicaragua. Much better to find a non scammer there. The issue with places like that is the complete culture shock a girl from there would experience. Most Ukrainians are used to modern technology and having windows and floors in their homes, running water and electricity. WTFisgoingon Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/8/2013 3:17:36 PM   And running scams and 5 boyfriends no doubt? lonelyranger1701 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/9/2013 1:54:56 AM   When it comes down to photos and friends on Vk and fb,,,, it’s something that everyone must decide on their own. You are the one that will be living with your choices,,,, choose wisely! What’s acceptable to one person, might be completely unacceptable to the next. If I see a woman’s profile filled with other men,, and if there is a lot of interaction,,,, I’d be wasting my time, and my time is precious. If the photos she has in her profile go beyond risqué,,, she won’t like being told to delete them, in fact,,,, they won’t ever remove them,,,,,, so why waste your time trying. If her normal everyday life is incompatible with your’s ,,,,, then you aren’t a match!! 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