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	Create New Topic   My Posts   My forum buddies   Invite friends   Private messages Russian brides > Main Forum > new to the game Author Post gladiatorUK Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/22/2004 2:02:34 PM   I remember seeing those figures somewhere too Tim,and I was amazed that the take up rate was so low,when you consider just how many lovely ladies are out there. Is it any wonder that a great deal of them become dissillusioned with internet dating game.Interesting point to note:......how many ladies now state in the profiles that they only want serious replies? The bottom line......if you aint got the desire to follow it through,don't start!! TimH Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/22/2004 2:25:02 PM   You are dead on mate !! Many women now list "reliable, serious and committed" to their ads, and it is obvious why !! But yes, there are 100`s of 1000's of men who write to many women and never have any intention or the financial means to even meet one !! Of course its probable that these type of men are mainly 350 + pounds with a face like a skelped arse and live with their Mum !!! The ones who couldn't get bedded in a brothel !!! I agree completely mate "if you are Not 100% committed, then Don't start !!" (for the new members among us read also "Who is scamming who ?") Tim tradman Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/22/2004 3:14:04 PM   I agree with you all, I have been on this site for about 3 weeks, am now down to about 5 serious one's(money has never been mentioned) am meeting the first one in Holland in 8 days, was very lucky that she is meeting her friend who married a dutchman and I could get a flight, she is staying with her friends, I booked a hotel (only there for one night) was going to get a single, then thought, what the hell, get a double, I would look pretty stupid if we hit it off and I had a single. From the small amount of real life contact I have had with Russian women, they you are not interested if you do not make a move, it doesn't mean they will agree, but they will not be offended like a woman in the west, they expect men to have male instincts, someone please correct me if I am wrong, may save me from a slap.:) Buran_Fan Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/22/2004 3:59:21 PM   Wow, guys - what great advice! Even though I'm one of the 'old-timers' here, you've raised my IQ a couple points. I've actually been registered with this site since 1999, when it was marriage.flamingo.ru. My first letter was to a young lady in Yoshkar-Ola (Yana, #2080, can anyone beat that?) I haven't been very active until December of last year, when I sent out a whopping 6 letters at once. And some of you are sending out 10 times that many? How the heck do you do it? I'd have to set up my own Oracle database server to keep track. . . I've also received many letters from (all together now) - Riga & Azov! At first I was flattered (who wouldn't be?), but as I re-read them and compared them, many just didn't 'feel right'. And, based on the discussion in other threads, I decided to avoid those two regions. Right now, I'm down to one - a young lady from Penza. She says she's finishing school right now, and based on her response times (after message receipt, 2-3 days up to a week), I tend to believe that. I consider education important, so I'm not pushing anything right now. On the other hand, I have no desire to 'hedge my bets' (so to speak), so I spend my time checking my email 300 times a day, waiting for those glorious words "Reply Notification from Fiance.com" :-) If I might add my own 2 kopeks worth of advice: keep an eye on her email numbers as you correspond. It's not an absolute indicator, but as your correspondence progresses, it might be a barometer of your 'success' as you see how fast & frequently the number goes up. Of course, it was mentioned earlier that a sharp spike when she's first listed could be a warning sign. As for rejections (mine, not theirs): I've always tried to send a polite "Thank you, I'm flattered, but no" letter. What's the consensus out there? Anyone else send decline letters, or electronically round-file them, especially if you can tell she's spammed everyone? dma Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/22/2004 4:17:00 PM   I have monitored the email count for various girls, and assuming an average response rate based upon your own submissions you can assess the degree of "competition" as implied by ice. I have a 'nice' rejection template that I occasionally add the reason why but it's generally flattering even if I wouldn't touch them with a bargepole. As for making a "move", I already have the "ok" to that and "ok" to a lot of thing now that I think about it. It's having "children" we need to talk about! LOL I don't think I've ever been slapped by a woman and I have hands like an octopus. ;) TimH Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/22/2004 4:18:54 PM   Trad: If you havnt booked your hotel already, I can highly recommend the Tulip Inn, Art Hotel, its a bit outside the main city which when you know how busy it can be there, is a good thing believe me !! Not expensive as AD hotels go and within a short taxi ride form Grand central station, and most places in AD. Yes mate you are right, well about Russian women anyway :o)) My experience of women in the UK is that they are far more likely to slap you for trying, and come to think of it just as likely to give you a load of verbal abuse too !! Russian "Ladies" and I say ladies because they are, will be flattered that you tried, even if they decide to say no, or not yet (the latter being more likely as these ladies are not stupid, they rarely jump into bed with a man on night one (again there are exceptions of course to every rule) but once they get to know you and if they like you there is little that will stop them saying yes ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ---- Buran, These days I have a prewritten decline letter which just says, "Thank you for your interest, but I think I have found my lady, good luck in your search Tim And to be honest its the truth. It never hurts to be polite in these decline letters I think :o)) Jeff M Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/22/2004 8:10:19 PM   Tim, you da man. I only wonder how long you have been on the site? I too face uphill battles as I am not made of money. I am a bit more fortunate than some others as I own my own house and business. How long did it take for you to find your Natasha, how long have you been corresponding, and whenwill you visit? best of luck, Jeff Jeff M Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/22/2004 8:59:54 PM   Hey, just wondering, have any of you gents actually gone on one of the tours and been to the socials? Just curious. gladiatorUK Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/23/2004 2:25:21 AM   Buran: My experience with dating from the FSU began in the autumn of 1998,and after a few false starts I am now off the market,thanks to a lovely lady from Kharkov who is now with me here in the UK and looking forward to a marriage very soon. It brought a smile too reading that you check your e-mail so many times too......think we've all been there at one time or another..:)))As for the decline letters,I used to keep em short but polite,as for the the scammers (thankfully not so many),I used to send them their photo collection from the scam sites with a request for information,needless to say the reply was never forthcoming!!! Good luck with your lady. gladiatorUK Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/23/2004 2:32:56 AM   Jeff M: Using a tour has it's advantages,and disadvantages too,it can be very useful to arrange everything through a tour before a trip as you can feel secure that all is planned for you,and the choice can be overwhelming.....(see thread Kid in a candy shop),however I prefer to tailor my trip personally,as do a few others here.That is not say one way is better than the other,just that I like the thought of being able to move about should the need arise. gladiatorUK Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/23/2004 2:36:11 AM   Experience of Amsterdam eh Tim???? great architecture,cheap bicycle hire,lovely canals..........:))))) did I miss anything??.LOL crashnsplash Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/23/2004 5:58:24 AM   Hi Jeff, I have a few things in common with you. I also own my home and my business. I also have custody of my daughter and I thought that would be a problem, since I was used to American women that couldnt be bothered with a man with a child. Its pathetic, isn't it? Well let me tell you how surprised I was to learn that 95% of all the Russian woman I have talked to were attracted by that fact. I was amazed and I still am. Anyway, Ive been here since last summer and I find that I am one of the younger men here. After discovering this whole deal, I have researched and seen many documentaries on TV about foreign men meeting Russian women. I think Ive learned alot in that time. I find it kind of surprising when I see guys here that say they have found the ONE after only a few weeks or months. I'm happy for all that do find them in that short amount of time, its just that was not the case for me. I met hundreds of ladies before I found mine. It took me about 5 months to finally find my Natalia. She is my sunshine and I pray to God that we will be as crazy about eachother when we meet as we are now. You can believe that I check my mail many times a day waiting for her letters. When she does have the time to call me its like I feel like I just won the lottery I'm so happy. Shes a wonderful woman... As for the tours, I thought about it alot and yes, like you read here, it would be like a kid in a candystore. But thats not my preference. I wanted to meet a few ladies personally first through email correspondence. Thats what I did and I am glad I did that. I was supposed to go next month but things came up for me and we moved it to the beginning of June. I will be in St. Pete for the White Nights. We both decided it will be very romantic for us to be together at that particular time. I am nervous and excited at the same time!! My advice is to not put all your focus into one girl although I will say it is getting increasingly harder for me to do. You have to realize that if things do not work out, you have other girls that want to meet you while your there. I suggest finding a good agency and meet your woman all in the same general area. You dont want your girls scattered across Russia, that could become quite expensive. Well, Jeff, welcome to the forum and good luck in your search! jetmba. Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/23/2004 1:10:43 PM   JeffM: I've been on a tour to Odessa last year with European Connections. Had the time of my life and it was worth every penny I paid. Details of my trip are written all over the place in this forum - if you look a bit. I met two wonderful women from Kishinev - who I am going to see this April. I hope to offer one a K1 Visa (and I very much think she will take me up on it). You will, no doubt, see another post by me, as part of another thread where i am trying to make some additional contacts in Kishinev. It might seem strange in light of what I told you - but if things do not go well between me and my ladies (remote possibility but I will definitely be in Kishinev for two weeks) I want a backup plan. I want to take some names and addresses of ladies so that I do not end up sitting there under any conditions. That's all. TimH Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/23/2004 4:15:21 PM   Jeff, I have only been with this site since January this year mate, though I have already been to the FSU many times, and have been married if only briefly !! To one Riussian girl. I met her about 18 months ago, we married last April, but unfortunatly I hadnt chosen the most honest and loyal woman after all !!! Natashsa I have been writing to since I joined this site, so about 2 months now, we shall meet as soon as I finish selling my house (I am buying another but I can delay that long enough to have a holiday with Natash first !!) which I hope will be within the next 2 or 3 weeks !! Though the time its taking so far is really bugging me !! Im with Glad in that I plan my own trips and visa`s etc, I always have and havnt yet submitted to the lure of a tour, I dont think the old heart could take it to be honest :o)) I guess I have spent about 3 to 4 months of the past 2 years in one FSU country or another :o) (My X was from Uzbekistan, so I spent a lot of time there of course) Glad: Only the excellent drugs mate ;o)) Whos turn is it to skin up ??? Crash: When I personally say "Ive found the One" I mean the one I want to pursue at this time and see where it wil lead. If it doesnt work out then I will begin again, but I dont have 4 or 5 women dangling at once, all waiting to meet me, I prefer to devote my time to the one who has shone through above all the others, and at this time that is Natasha, by a long long way. I hope we shall be great together, but as far as her being "the One" I wont know for sure and neither will she until we meet. Until then, Im off the market myself :o)) Jet: Keep all the bases covered my friend :o)) Jeff M Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/23/2004 8:32:16 PM   Gladiator, thanks for the tip Jeff M Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/23/2004 8:34:03 PM   Crash, good to hear about your success. But about trying tokeep all my 'women' haha in the same region is very tough! I got a good response and a great mail thing going with a girl from Lithuania and from Odessa and Moscow, haha, what to do what to do! Jeff M Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/23/2004 8:37:28 PM   Tim you da-man! I don't know, the tours give could give me more options, like if I invited my favs to the socials nearby and if it didnt click with any of them, then there would be HUNDREDS more?!?! I don't have the cashish to travel as much as you do, I guess. Did I read you are in Great Britain or am I mistaken? Perhaps it is cheaper from there than good ol' Ohio! Thanks again TimH Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/24/2004 3:35:05 AM   We have to arrange our own flights from the UK to most socials Jeff, thats why it appears cheaper than the prices quoted on the site for US customers, but if we can get a real cheap flight deal then we can save money again that way too of course. There is no reason why you cannot just pay for the tour and arrange your own flights too, but be sure you can save on your flight, before you jump in with both feet and book just the tour at the other end !! Its also possible with a lot of tour companies to buy just the socials, in which case you arrange everything yourself except these events, it gives you lots of freedom, but as I said be certain that if money is an issue for you that it wont end up costing you shedloads more that way. Tim crashnsplash Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/24/2004 7:16:48 AM   Jeff- yes it is tough!! When I started I had girls all over Russia. But give it some time and I think things will fall into place for you. Tim- I wasn't talking about you or anyone else in particular, and I sure don't look down on people that find their girl(s) right away, I think its a great thing! I was just offering my point of view. Quite a few times I thought I had found a girl only to find out later I was wrong. Each time I learned more and more, until finally I found a girl that is putting as much into this as I am, and she wants all this to be reality very soon just as I do. Jeff M Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/24/2004 2:02:59 PM   Tim, thanks for the tips. I have heard it can be a bit of a challenge getting through customs, etc., esp. not knowing language. The idea of the tour personnel meeting you at aiport has some advantages, I guess. The real problem haha is that I really like a girl in Lithuania, and one in Sevastopol Ukraine, so Crash, hahah, they are far apart. Maybe they would consider becoming roomates in either city, to make it easier for me to meet both,...hmmm roomates, oops wrong kind of site and forum here, haha. Your Reply: Your name:   New Registration Password:   Forgot password?   refresh Code:   Russian brides > Main Forum > new to the game
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