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	Create New Topic   My Posts   My forum buddies   Invite friends   Private messages Russian brides > Main Forum > On the Threshold of War Author Post durak Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/6/2014 1:53:31 PM   A little detail I omitted at the end of March: According to military analysts, the Russian military buildup on Ukraine's border closely follows the pattern of assembling forces observed before the 2000 offensive in Chechnya, and the 2008 war against Georgia. Russia's present behavior does not resemble military exercises: it is preparation for invasion. durak Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/6/2014 1:54:31 PM   (interested readers, please see my new bulletin at the end of page 1 for this thread) ragingbull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/6/2014 7:39:45 PM   durak, isn't it possible that this pattern of assembling forces is only one of few that they follow? Batman Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/6/2014 8:02:32 PM   Thanks for the updates Durak. Longtime followers of this forum will recall that my father's parents left Ukraine for the USA in 1913. While my prime goal was to find a Ukrainian wife my second goal was to look up my cousins. ragingbull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/8/2014 1:31:37 PM   I personally emailed the White House and Senator McCain (because he was more involved.) when hired thugs roamed the streets in Kiev shortly before the Yanukovich departure. At least, the White House is aware that the protesters and snipers are Russian hires, setting the stage for an invasion. Yesterday, I heard on the news on the radio that Secretary Kerry called Russia about this. I feel funny writing about an invasion that I don't want to happen. The Russians might see this and agree. I am now speaking to the Russians. It is not too late to stop this. stoptheinsanity Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/9/2014 8:04:56 PM   e-mail this to Jonh Jihad McCain https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mguhEYxmCbU ragingbull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/11/2014 10:46:46 AM   John McCain's email is available to everyone. If you want that emailed, do it yourself. It has been around 25 years since the independence of Ukraine. Why is this Russian nationalism suddenly starting now? It was because Ukraine was about to make a decision to become part of the EU. Then, Russians tried to stop it by many ways: economics and military. goo.gl/edTVw8 I have never heard of rent-a crowds until now. It is not just in the above article. It is by word of mouth from social media from all over Ukraine. I cannot believe anything you post about Ukraine wanting to be Russian or is a not stable country until the Russian troops get out of Crimea and the Eastern border. Financial help is alright, but not to promote instability to follow one political agenda. lonelyranger1701 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/23/2014 2:38:43 PM   http://www.redflagnews.com/headlines/alert-poland-is-mobilizing-army-pm-the-worl d-stands-on-the-brink-of-conflict-the-consequences-of-which-are-not-foreseen “It seems the words of Polish Prime Minister Donald Tusk warning that “the world stands on the brink of conflict, the consequences of which are not foreseen… Not everyone in Europe is aware of this situation,” are a little more real than some (US equity buyers) might suspect. As The Week’s Crispin Black reports, at least 7,000 Polish workers in Europe have received call-up papers as army reservists in the last few weeks. Polish authorities dismiss it as “routine” but the men note this has never happened before.” http://www.theguardian.com/world/ng-interactive/2014/apr/ 23/ukraine-us-russian-troops-map “Ukraine: US and Russia move troops into position As the US moves 600 airborne troops into the Baltics, Russia responds with naval exercises in the Caspian. Roll over the symbols to see where troops are being gathered around the Ukraine.” See the map in the link. lonelyranger1701 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/23/2014 2:54:28 PM   http://news.yahoo.com/biden-pledges-support-ukraines-pro-western-leaders-0945452 14.html “Russia hints at armed 'response' if Ukraine interests attacked” “Russia kicks out Canadian diplomat.” “Putin has warned in a letter to the EU that Moscow could cut gas supplies in a month's time if Ukraine's bill was not paid in full. Significantly, that cut-off would come just before a May 25 election Ukraine is scheduled to hold to choose a new president -- a poll Biden this week described as "maybe the most important election in Ukrainian history".” poppy Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/25/2014 11:47:10 AM   loonygoogle thanks for that useless info durak Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/3/2014 2:49:26 PM   RUSSIA'S PREPARATIONS TO TAKE THE DONBASS REGION Donbass (the basin of the Don river) is the part of southeast Ukraine in which most of Russia's seizures of government buildings have been taking place. [Note: if you don't already know it, these actions are transparently by the Russian Federation, not the "spontaneous citizen uprisings" claimed by Kremlin-controlled media.] The locations of these seizures might seem a little odd. Though they are in general scattered around the Donbass, consistent with the idea of taking control of the region, this scattering is not uniform, and some of these places are very small towns, or scarcely more than villages (for example, Marinka). Also, it is interesting to note that in most places, these forces only hold one or two government buildings, whereas in Slovyansk the entire town is under Russian control. What does this all mean? _______________________________ For those who are not students of military history or tactics: armies are heavily dependent on road networks. Depending on the military budgets, terrain and weather conditions, the ability of even of modern armies to move heavy forces cross-country is very limited, or often non-existent. [Because of its astronomical military spending, the US has some ability to deploy without road networks, but that is quite exceptional and still very limited.] Because of necessity of roads to armies, major roads, and especially road junctions, are absolutely critical to military ground operations. Many Americans think of MPs (military police) as maintaining order among soldiers, which indeed is one of their responsibilities; but in combat, the primary (and very dangerous) duty of MPs is the guarding of crossroads. _______________________________ So, imagine that you are a Russian officer assigned to prepare for the invasion of the Donbass. If you have the luxury of "preparing the ground" using special forces in advance of your invasion, what points do you want to control? For Ukraine to position its ground forces in the Donbass, there is no approach from the north or northeast. Only three major highways lead into the Donbass region. The most militarily useful (because of its directness, and relative lack of exposure to lines of Russian invasion) is the M03 from Kharkiv. Slovyansk sits at the junction of the M03 with H20, a highway making a partial ring around the Donetsk area. So by holding Slovyansk and setting up roadblocks, Russia's military has created a major obstacle against Ukraine's army. Once Ukraine's army has reached Slovyansk, the direct line of approach to Donetsk is by the H20. So the Russian officer I am imagining would also want to control the highway junctions to the south on the H20. These junctions are at Kramatorsk and Konstyantynivka. Guess what? These towns have been invaded by Russian special forces. From Slovyansk, the H20 could be bypassed by going farther south on the M03, which would take the army through Artemivsk, already invaded by Russian special forces. The next major line of attack would be highway M04 from Dnepropetrovsk; this would surely be the Ukrainian army's second choice if the M03 cannot be used. The logical point of control is the major road junction at Krasnoarmiisk ... which has been invaded by Russian special forces. The tiny town of Mar'inka (population around 10,000) sits on the H15 (a smaller highway) from Zaporozhia, and has been invaded by Russian special forces. The only other line of approach for the Ukrainian army would be very much the long way around, across the southern part of the country via the M14. To approach Donetsk from this heroic detour (within easy range of Russia's forces in Crimea), it would be necessary to pass through the port town of Mariupol -- under invasion by Russian special forces. durak Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/3/2014 5:22:40 PM   There are fresh reports from Russian press -- I haven't yet seen anything on Western news sources about this -- of Ukrainian military action in Mariupol and Konstyantynivka. While I regret the loss and suffering which are surely taking place, this is exactly what Ukraine needs to do. It is what sovereign states around the world would do, in response to representatives of a hostile foreign power taking control of their territory. And we know from Chechnya: if anyone had done in Russia, what Russia is now doing in Ukraine ... Russia's response would be much more brutal and destructive than anything we are seeing in Ukraine. I wish success to Ukraine's military. ragingbull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/4/2014 1:53:55 AM   It's amazing how the Russian people support Putin. Like you said durak,it is in response to representatives of a hostile foreign power taking control of their territory. Looking at vk, they are saying, look at what the brutal Ukrainians did. lonelyranger1701 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/7/2014 1:53:18 PM   http://www.businessinsider.com/why-putin-needs-east-and-south-ukraine-2014-5?utm _source=mobilesrepublic&utm_medium=referral&utm_term=mobilesrepublic#!KnCta ragingbull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/8/2014 10:33:25 AM   The Russians on vk has quieted down in their anti American rhetoric. Lately, I have been getting friendly messages from Russians. Are they beginning to realize their country is going the wrong way? ragingbull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/10/2014 12:48:25 AM   I wonder how the moderators are absorbing all of this. They are Russian, I believe. Huck Finn Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/12/2014 12:35:14 AM   In the near future,,,,,, the name Putin will join that of Stalin. His confederates will deny him and his admirers will shout the loudest for his image to be removed from the public record so as to mitigate their guilt and ignorance. History is repeating itself. Your Reply: Your name:   New Registration Password:   Forgot password?   refresh Code:   Russian brides > Main Forum > On the Threshold of War
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