A fourth bridge was reported demolished yesterday, and today a highway overpass near Donetsk.
REBELS MUST LAY DOWN ARMS BEFORE UKRAINIAN GOVERNMENT WILL AGREE ON CEASEFIRE
According to Defense Minister Heletey, "The president of Ukraine has made it clear: negotiations are only possible now after the militants put down their weapons."
Obama's tactics must be working. It is good the Russians are keeping out of it. Lay down their arms is a great idea. It is great that the Ukrainians insist on this.
This is a lesson learned the hard way by the US. The Vietcong in the Vietnam War would agree to talk when they are losing. They would talk as they regroup. Then, they fight again.
yes Durak that was it,, ok interesting! i'm trying to think how i sourced the info now.
i found the whole thing very strange as you might,, i'm sure it was part our news and also something like "60 minutes" media program based around his arrest.
he was the worlds number one interdependent gunrunner.
the gulf stuff was about getting resources to the gulf as quick as possible, i remember it said the US military didnt have this capability by air for some reason to carry the needed volume quickly.
this person or (firm) i speak of has been the core of most conflicts around the world(specially Africa in gun running and much of the 3nd world country's)
his empire came about at the fall of communism, he bought up all the military transport planes, by expanding quickly in selling arm cashes that were sitting around throughout Russia at that time.
it was said he had the biggest millinery air lift in the world at that time.
who knows maybe Puton has repo' the stuff back since the guys arrest.
You have got to be joking . They wont get crimea or its dolphins .
Flipper doesnt like nazi governments. Ukraine government should train rats they have plenty of them
I hope everyone IS taking the time to read all of poopy’s/danny42’s/DUNT’S posts?!!
Just read all of the hate and bitterness towards two countries, that he has never been to!!
It was a Russian girl that took her own life, and the life of an unborn baby, just to get away from him.
It was an Russian woman that stole 30,000 from danny,,,, (or so he says)???
So WHY does he hate Ukraine so much?? Very simple,,,, because WE,,, the other members of this forum from all over the world, care about Ukraine. What does danny hate more,,,, the world, or us?? Well,,,, I’m sure he hates me more than anything else in the world,,,, and I wouldn’t want it any other way,, but I think he just hates the world. Life has been so cruel,,, yet so perfect for him.
Danny,,, the Dunt faced boy! Still throwing his feces at the rest of the world!!!
The Russian media is witnessing a new and extremely disturbing phenomenon: death threats against journalists and media organisations uttered with apparent impunity on national television.
On 29 June, the state-controlled NTV channel ran another in its long series of hatchet jobs on the Russian opposition. Its target this time was Russia Behind Bars: a support group campaigning against miscarriages of justice which it accused of siphoning off money to fund the Ukrainian radical nationalist group Right Sector.
But this latest attack had an added ingredient: a direct death threat against Olga Romanova, the journalist and opposition activist who heads Russia Behind Bars.
The threat against Romanova came from Oleg Protasov, an actor with a criminal record for theft who starred in the Russian TV prison drama The Zone. With shirt unbuttoned to reveal a hairy, medallioned chest, and with the gravelly voice of a heavy smoker, Protasov stared into the camera and vowed that Romanova would pay for her alleged misdeeds:
"Olga Romanova, I want to say, wherever you are, whoever you are with, whatever black (expletive bleep) is protecting you, they will find you and rip you to pieces," he said.
Writing in independent newspaper Novaya Gazeta, Romanova said she suspected that the ultimate source of the threat was "bodies connected to state services". She also said she thought the reason behind it was her "many years writing" for the paper.
Romanova has worked for a number of independent media and was a presenter on privately owned REN TV until it was taken over by businessmen linked to the Kremlin in 2005.
She founded Russia Behind Bars after her husband, businessman Aleksey Kozlov, was jailed on charges of fraud that many believe were politically motivated. Kozlov was released in 2013 after serving four years.
Speaking on independent radio station Ekho Moskvy, she said the threat against her might also be connected to her bid to stand in this autumn's Moscow parliamentary elections.
Colleagues in the media and opposition were shocked.
"This is the first time that a national TV station has aired a cold-blooded promise to do away with a Russian citizen," journalist Stanislav Kucher wrote on liberal website Snob.
Opposition politician Boris Nemtsov said the threat should not be taken lightly. "Let's all monitor the situation. Otherwise they will kill Olga Romanova. I say this with all seriousness," he wrote on Facebook.
But the death threat against Romanova was not a one-off. In fact, just days earlier Gazprom-owned NTV had broadcast a similar threat against the radio station Ekho Moskvy.
On 20 June, NTV's crime show Emergency Incident reported that separatist rebels in east Ukraine were planning to open offices in Moscow to counter the "lies and propaganda" put out by some Russian media.
A masked man in camouflage gear was then shown promising to punish the "fifth column" at Ekho radio. Amid prolonged expletive bleeps, he said: "You will see death. And this is what death will look like." At this point he jabbed two fingers at his eyes as they peered out from behind his black balaclava.
Far from treating this death threat as a violation of the law, NTV merely quoted experts as saying that in "almost all its reports Ekho Moskvy exhibits an anti-state position".
Romanova has made an official complaint about the death threat against her to the Investigations Committee (IC).
But Nemtsov for one was doubtful about whether the IC will act.
Since Vladimir Putin came to power in 2000, five Novaya Gazeta journalists have been murdered, including the paper's Chechnya correspondent Anna Politkovskaya, who was gunned down at her Moscow apartment block in 2006.”
Spare time??? What spare time?? Check the time that I make most of my posts!
I feel like it’s more of a community service,,,, somebody needs to remind you and all of the members reading this about your body count! It’s no wonder that you support Putin!
No hate to Americans or Ukrainians??? Yeah right! Just give me a day or two,,, I’ll dig thru your danny42 posts.
No,,, it’s not okay! I don’t want to hear the opinions of danny the Dunt!
I don’t need anyone to agree with me,,,, but in time,,, people do come to realize, that I have been right all along?? It just takes time,,, and I can wait!
“why would I donate to Ukraine?”
So you can say that you did,,, and no other reason!
And what a joke,,,, a website set up and only two people gave to it,,,, 550??
Putin's program is to paint Ukraine's government in the most negative light possible. This helps to account for why the rebels' Russian commanders consistently lodge themselves in dense urban areas: they use the towns, and their innocent residents, as hostages, hoping to maximize damage and destruction when the lawful government reclaims the towns.
According to a report in Wall Street Journal, not all of the damaged buildings in Slovyansk resulted from actual combat: "Several residents described how the militants asked them to leave their apartments before shooting at the buildings, apparently trying to discredit the Ukrainian army."
From Donetsk, as reported in the Houston Chronicle:
"The militia has begun blowing up roads, so I want to get out while there is still time. I don't want to turn into a living shield for the militants," said 56-year old businessman Andrei Koziyatko.
He understands: the separatists are using innocent civilians as human shields.
Conditions in rebel-held territory are awful, and degrading rapidly. The separatists and their supporters probably number in the thousands; more than a million are suffering, because of their hateful violence.
Most of the lies Putin has been telling about the government in Kyiv, are actually true of the separatists.
To people that back Russia,,, the following is acceptable behavior. I found these posts online today.
“My friends, I write post to you after a long and very tiring day, now made unbearable with the news of the 'comfort women' being kidnapped and raped in the east, probably by insurgents from their own cities, as well as by the Russians.
I will write the following message, addressed to people in Ukraine's bureaucracy, military leadership, and local civil and law enforcement authorities, but I urge you to adopt the message as your own and pass it along to people in Ukraine and in the government, and hopefully it will become a message from all of Ukraine:
'Leave now.
If you are complicit in obstructing your country's protection of its troops in the field, if you value your own enrichment above the reforms that are needed to protect your country, if you are a military officer but really do not care about your men or your mission, if you are a policeman or a city leader, and you look the other way while innocent people are being kidnapped, raped, tortured and murdered, resign and go away.
The old system is gone, the automatic fear of government is irretrievably melting away. The world that you enjoyed is gone, people are standing up for their country and their lives. Maidan was the proof. One hundred died and the will to continue only increased.
When, not if, you are discovered to be the cause or a contributor to misery and death, you will find no safe quarter in your country.
If you are wise and heed this advice, you will leave for your own safety and allow people with aptitude and honesty to replace you.
If you do not heed this advice, then you must be prepared for the ferocity of retribution that can only come from a father, a mother, a wife, a brother or a sister who has lost their loved one, or their own innocence, because of your actions.
Your people are no longer afraid. They will act. And you will not survive.”
“Human trafficking, kidnappings and rape are justified by terrorists in Lugansk Republic. Terrorists of LNR have captured about 40 girls ages 17 to 22 using them as sex slaves and keeping them in their HQ behind closed doors and sealed windows. Captured girls are not allowed to go home or even call parents. When certain girls are not needed any more they send they away to block posts. A desperate mother calls on President Poroshenko to expedite the liberation of Lugansk to save her daughter. She says, “If you wait too long with ATO many people will be killed before you come in the city and if there will be some survivors, they will be so scared that they won’t want to live.”
a friend in Moscow told me Russian Crimean's have a massive discount on plane seats to travel to and fro from Moscow.
there was rather a lot of animosity when such was told to me..
so it begins..
“Let’s say you are a former Soviet republic who has just seen some of its choicest territory annexed by Moscow. Few countries are in a better position to guide you through what happens next than Georgia.
At least, that’s the view of Georgia’s defense minister, Iraki Alasania. In a wide-ranging interview with The Daily Beast, he said he had been in touch with his Ukrainian counterpart to offer the insights gleaned from his ministry’s study on the dos and don’ts of being invaded by Vladimir Putin’s military and stealth special operations units……………………..””