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	Create New Topic   My Posts   My forum buddies   Invite friends   Private messages Russian brides > Main Forum > Scammers in the way of your search for love Author Post TomZ Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/20/2014 3:19:06 PM   "when she loaded a supermarket trolley with more than we needed for a barbecue we were having that day" Her cupboards were probably bare of food. She just wanted to provide for her family and have a little extra when they got hungry. The amount was probably less than £20 but you made a big deal of it and made her to feel like she was stealing from you. Great impression. Tom Shea Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/20/2014 8:36:06 PM   Yep sammy, many here will say I was ripped off because I spent $45 post night on a luxury apt, that I could have gotten for $42, but the agency might have been out of business and I never met my wife. So I could have made 3 more trips at $3000 each and slept well I didn't get ripped off. TomZ Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/21/2014 8:23:07 AM   Tom Shea - bullshit. The agency would not have denied you of introducing you anyone because you choose not to rent their apartments. Granted they put high pressure on you to rent their apartments but they still will do the introductions for a fee. I don't know of any agency that will refuse to do introductions if you don't rent their suggested apartments. What you're putting out now is pure bullshit. And you keep repeating it and repeating it. TomZ Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/21/2014 9:00:36 AM   "I did not make a fuss then but I kept the knowledge about her" You lie. You did make a big fuss about it. You wrote it was your "first big argument". This is probably the reason she dropped you. When you made a big deal about her putting a little extra in 'your' shopping basket so she could have something a little extra to eat during the week. You see, she just wanted to see that her man could take care of her and provide for her. Rick4girl Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/22/2014 12:19:53 PM   hmmmm. I have but one comment in reply. TOM SHEA IS MARRIED TO FSU GIRL!!! how about you? I have a couple people on our staff that need extra work in Odesa as it is winter. Also in Nikolaev or Kherson. They can translate for you, help you shop, help you with transportation, go on dates with you to check out your girls and help you meet someone you see and just want to talk to in a club or pub or cafe. They can help you explore the city and much more. Once they learn your preferences, they might even know someone of the type you seek who is single and actively searching themselves. Great alternative to an agency translator because my people wont lie to you or let you get ripped off. PM me if you are want to give it a try or for more info. TomZ Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/22/2014 12:48:05 PM   Tom Shea - and I want to also add that there are plenty of agencies and sites that do not offer apartment rentals and they are still in business. So your line that your agency would have gone out of business and you wouldn't have found your wife is just pure BS. You're only fooling yourself if you believe that. dcguy Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/23/2014 2:13:27 AM   Rick4girl I might be interested, but the most promising ladies are not in the cities that you mentioned. Also I am guess that they are only local to the city. I might be more interested in a "sidekick" if I need to travel between cities. If I was just going to visit one city or take public transportation on my own, then I would entertain the prospect of a local concierge person. lonelyranger1701 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/23/2014 3:18:41 AM   TomZ,, it’s not bullshit! The agency, girls, and/or translators in Sumy gave me the same runaround. We did finally meet,,, but only after I threatened them, with not coming to Sumy at all. The 1st girl,,,, then 2nd and 3rd girls gave me the same spiel:,,,, “Don’t treat us like prostitutes” “If you want a girl to stay with you, you need to rent an apartment” Each girl said this,,, word for word!!! Well jezz,,, is it illegal to take prostitutes back to your apartment?? Rick4girl Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/23/2014 10:29:09 AM   dcguy. both are willing to provide "sidekick" services. One lady is more expensive as she also does document processing and can provide any legal or process you may ever need including visa processing for a lady you meet. the other can do some limited travel but she is newer, with us less than a year. I know she gets fidgety after 3 days with someone but its only because she is young (22) BTW guys, Professional services ONLY. no sex. If you want that kind of service, they will go with you to procure it Tom Shea Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/23/2014 8:21:02 PM   Sorry tomz, your frustration at being a failure is coming out. I rented the apartment for a few dollars more power night than8 could have myself. .. less than $5 per night, so in what twinkieland would it have made sense to save $4 per night and pay $50 for an introduction? Of you need me to pay the math I will. $4 X 4 days ( the length of time I was going to stay) = $16. OR could have saved the $16 and paid $50. I Think im beginning to see how you get scammed. Or admittedly you could go to the agency raised hell about the $16 you were ripped off and impressed the hell out of your date. Hey maybe you could have demanded SHE pay for the introduction. She would love you forever. Tom Shea Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/23/2014 8:27:33 PM   Tomz let me make it very simple. No money for agency over time = no agency. No one will work for free for very long. I don't begrudge people making money, see with no money they would not have a job. It's not that confusing lonelyranger1701 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/23/2014 11:05:56 PM   Rick: “BTW guys, Professional services ONLY. no sex. If you want that kind of service, they will go with you to procure it” Rick,,, how much do those 14 to 16 year olds charge?? Be a good buddy and set everyone up!!! dcguy Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/24/2014 12:23:33 AM   Rick4girl I am looking more towards a male "sidekick" who can be a tour guide as well as an interpreter. I have nothing against a young female, but having her tag along during my entire stay makes the appearance a bit "suspicious" for the locals. I have come across several independent ladies who will work as interpreter and/or tour guide in the major cities. If I was part of a group, then it would be less of a concern about hiring a young lady. BTW, I don't need a fidgety person during my stay. Meeting the other person will be nervous enough. And I also do not need to travel thousands of miles just to satisfy the "urge to merge". TomZ Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/24/2014 2:41:07 PM   What's all this talk of failure again Tom Shea? We could say that you're a failure because you couldn't find a woman from your own country and had to spend twenty thousand dollars to import an economically disadvantaged woman from an impoverished country. You come in here and brag that you have a 35 year old wife and yet you said yourself that anything over 29 is considered over the hill in Eastern Europe. Tom Shea you are a testament that anything can be bought for a price. Even a wife. I already explained to you that many agencies just provide introductions and do not rent apartments at all but you just sort of skipped over that because that doesn't fit into your ill-informed view. You also fail to understand the resiliency of the Ukrainian people. They can operate with money, little money or no money at all. Rick4girl Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/25/2014 12:31:18 AM   I have one guy who is going to do this after graduation but that will not be until June. Spent 4 years in USA, very fluent English, very personable and wants to travel ukraine to work. I know another in both Kyiv and Odesa who will go with you all day but probably wont travel I dont think, because of family obligations but I can ask. all of them are 40-50USD for an 8 hour day. they do alot of family and group translation. sorry to burst your bubble looney. they are 22 and 38 years old. lonelyranger1701 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/25/2014 8:36:15 PM   I wasn't asking about the interpreters Rick. Rick4girl Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/25/2014 9:06:01 PM   sorry looney, I'm legit. You havent been in Ukriane in 4 YEARS!!! you dont know shit about anything you live your sad life, You arent ever coming back to Ukraine. take your bitter life somewhere else. Maybe Africa? you fail in FSU and in America. nothing left for you except your hand as lover lonelyranger1701 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/25/2014 9:47:40 PM   Well,,, so now I know where TomZ got his misinformation from!! svenden Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/26/2014 6:45:33 AM   donetsk is worth a visit at this time of year Rick4girl Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/26/2014 12:43:31 PM   misinformation? YOU HAVE NOT BEEN TO UKRAINE IN A LONG TIME! Nothing you say most of the time is relevant anymore. a lot of things have changed since 2010. Attitudes, style, laws, etc. there are so many Americans, British, etc in Ukraine now that they are not special anymore. If anything, we can expect westerners to be flashy, arrogant and think Ukrainians owe them special attention. America is not looked on favorably right now because always breaking promises not to mention they never seem to clean up after themselves Your Reply: Your name:   New Registration Password:   Forgot password?   refresh Code:   Russian brides > Main Forum > Scammers in the way of your search for love
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