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	Create New Topic   My Posts   My forum buddies   Invite friends   Private messages Russian brides > Main Forum > UKRAINE WOMEN ON DATING SITES ARE MATERIALISTIC & DO NOT WANT TO WORK Author Post TomZ Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/7/2015 5:27:56 PM   ha ha more words from failure who went to Ukraine 3x and got nothing he's not going back because he realizes he will get nothing again ragingbull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/7/2015 5:34:08 PM   Instead of repeating what you obviously don't know, how about answering my questions? Rick4girl Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/7/2015 8:48:25 PM   admttedly, Ive had several girlfriends in Ukraine and had alot of fun but lets be honest, the point of this website is to help men find the right lady and marry them. A successful long lasting marriage is the obvious measure of success. With all the pressures on marriage these days, it is a much more difficult task than even 20 years ago as western society changes, especially if you want a pretty lady that you can also get along with and are compatible with. as Ive said before, I would like to get married again but only if I find the right one. Even though spend so much time here I dont fare much better than others because I simply dont have the time to find a good one because of my work. I run into many young girls who just want to have fun but only a few who are serious in the past year but we just werent a good match. I think it will happen by chance but Im going to try and make more time and go back to premium for a few months and see what happens. dcguy Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/7/2015 9:13:28 PM   Having been online in just under 20 years, the scammers on the sites are still essentially the same despite changes with online technology. "I think it will happen by chance" Besides chance, timing is also critical. Otherwise, it will be 100% failure (getting scammers, liars, non-serious, time wasters, people who just are not quite right, etc.). For those who intend to be "playboys of the western world", that is a totally different matter. Note that premium membership means unlimited correspondence with independent ladies. Agency ladies are PPL. This applies to this site. Tom Shea Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/9/2015 3:49:10 AM   I wish you guys would have told me this before 8 went and got a wide from here. She doesn't want to work either. She's got a degree in electrical engineering but days she hates that kind of work, so she's gone and enrolled in a nursing program at the local university. She's going to avoid work for at least 3 more years because she says she's going to summer school too! It's the story of my life, you guys always tell me stuff too late. ragingbull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/9/2015 3:41:47 PM   "A successful long lasting marriage is the obvious measure of success." I don't believe anyone should be labeled as failure or success. If your goal is to marry a hottie and find out that she is a scammer, would you still be a success if you marry her? If you were looking for a wife in Ukraine, and now have other options, are you a failure if you don't rush into going back to Ukraine? If you had a long lasting marriage, say 10-20 years and then you divorce, are you a success or a failure? If the point of this website is to help men find the right lady and marry them, then labeling the few as success and the rest failures, as TomZ has done, are counterproductive. Everyone who has been there should be able to contribute. lonelyranger1701 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/10/2015 1:01:00 AM   Rb,,, I think TomZ has been calling everyone a failure, because he knows we are sick of listening to him and/or don't believe him! lonelyranger1701 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/10/2015 2:14:44 AM   Rick,,, as someone that started to date,,, just before the first “Apple or Mac’s” appeared in high schools,,,, and then in the FSU before internet dating became popular,,,, and now when 4 out of 5 dates happen over the internet,,,, I can proclaim with 100% certainty,,, that dating was easier 20 and 35 years ago! In my early years,,, I didn’t go a week without a date,, I needed to change the oil on the car every 4 to 6 weeks!! My front seat was larger than today’s back seats,,,, and the center arm rest folded up! “Those Were The,,,,, Daaaaays!” Today,,, the women of appropriate dating age are,,,,, Too Fat,,,, too bossy, too hard to find, too many kids,,, too ugly, too married, or with too much baggage. I spent the whole day on the road, about 400mi, going after supplies down in Milwaukee! WOOF X 10-3rd Outside of the office,,, a middle aged woman in a tight purple dress and high heels,,,, pacing up and down the sidewalk smoking a cigarette. She looked okay until she turned around,,,,,, and then I realized that she is 10 to 15 years younger than myself. I thought to myself,,,,, would I do that? I don’t know,,, and she caught me looking about then,,,, and smiled! I thought I would be making the whole trip,,, without seeing one pretty girl,,, but then,, when getting a quick bite at you know where,,,, a cute little Asian girl was behind the counter. Today,,, too many things are interfering with good old fashioned dating. The internet,,, the worst thing for dating. People are spending too much time online,,, clubs and bars are almost empty. Most of the women are too young,,,, or have too many tattoos and piercing. I saw a girl yesterday that was 90% covered with Aztec looking tats. Is she trying to impress the dead? dcguy Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/10/2015 12:51:22 PM   Tattoos appear to be rather popular now. I think it is an attempt to make you look unique to others. Sort of like, look at me, I am DIFFERENT. I also think it is something done just to allow the partner to look at as he/she is being hooked up. ragingbull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/10/2015 2:20:49 PM   "I think TomZ has been calling everyone a failure, because he knows we are sick of listening to him and/or don't believe him!" TomZ is using forum members to bolster his naricism. To make himself look great, he paints others as failures. Yet, his data is not complete. He makes the rest up. dcguy Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/10/2015 7:24:45 PM   "The internet,,, the worst thing for dating." It appears that online dating has become a very popular medium to meet people. Back when I graduated from college, the only practical forms of dating was with local people (bars, stores, churches, parks, etc.), people at the office, and introductions from friends/relatives. A few might also be from contacts when travelling (business or vacations). The internet has made it possible to get in touch with a lot of people in distant locations (unfortunately, that includes the dishonest ones). The one flaw of internet dating is that unlike local dating, the very first impression about the other person is not readily available (hence the constant cry of "you gotta visit him/her directly or it is a waste of time"), but with distance, it is a more costly venture. Good or bad, online dating has at least opened the pool of available potential mates to everyone. The number of fish in the sea increased dramatically. "that dating was easier 20 and 35 years ago" To some degree (back in my college days), I would agree with this. However, in my case, dating has not been something that I did much in my life. So that makes the effort even more difficult in my case. I have come across a few shy women online too. lonelyranger1701 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/10/2015 11:55:57 PM   Dc,,, I didn’t just mean to say that internet dating is bad,,, but the time we spend online instead of doing something real has hurt our chances to find someone. If I was to make a graph,,, of my dating before and after getting a computer,,, subtracting my time in Ukraine and on vacation,,,, the line would be a near vertical drop!! Thirty years ago,,,, at 10:45 pm,,, my hands would not be on a computer!! Front seat, back seat, her place, cinema, dance floor, dark corner, beach, woods, etc. During my time in Ukraine,, I got a kick out of the interpreters and agency owners treating a guy like they have never dated before. A few times, I felt like setting the record straight,,, but the gentleman in me kept me from doing it. I went to the movies with a girl and a interp twice in Tver’ Russia. In the middle of the movie I looked around, and saw everyone watching the movie? The girls spoke almost no English, but in reality,, it was the interp and me anyway,,, and I asked her: why is everyone watching the movie?? I then told her what was normal in the US. We also have an outdoor theater here,,, (used to have two,,, and might have two again soon),,,,, several times when taking a girl home,,, having her parents ask which movies were playing,, (if they stayed up) and not having the foggiest idea. dcguy Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/11/2015 12:48:15 AM   lonelyranger Well, the "online addiction" has been widely mentioned especially with those who play computer games. Some teens are "frozen" to the computer screen and skip other activities. I have to admit that I went online to chat rooms back in the 1990s when I first went online. I stayed in there for most of the day and night throughout the year. Did it help me in finding someone? No, but I did meet some good friends. But, after seeing the immaturity, lies, rumors, and weird personalities online, I stopped doing it after a year. I guess since Internet access was free at the time and I got a free computer, it was something that I ventured into. People in different regions of the world take dates to different places for different reasons. In Europe, I guess it is to watch a movie. People there might not consider that place to have romantic dates. To be honest with you, having been to the cinema, I have never seen any romantic moves made by people in my seating aisle or surrounding areas. But, then I am not a theater usher with a flashlight. My area does not have outdoor theaters anymore. There was a recent airing of "The Birds" in a local cemetery (you sat on the grounds or brought your own chairs). I don't think anyone had romantic feelings during the presentation. ragingbull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/11/2015 1:10:02 AM   It's best to sit in the back if you want to make romantic moves in the movies. Bring a thick coat. Put it over her. Then, you can feel her out under the coat while the movie is playing and you will not be seen. lonelyranger1701 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/11/2015 1:47:35 AM   It’s mostly making out in the indoor theater,,,, 1st thru 3rd base, but I’ve had BJ’s inside, and did her once too. This is on nights that aren’t too packed,,, of course you don’t do it if people are sitting next to you. dcguy Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/1/2016 6:54:35 PM   he materialism is not just on the women side. Here is one involving a FSU male. "There are loads of dating scams going on out there – be careful! To those who wonder why east European and Russian women are looking for men in the US and North Europe – it is because it is a way for them of getting out of there! The situation in parts of east Europe is nothing like it is in a western country. People are poor, there is corruption, the social security is not good, there are no well paid jobs… That is why some people don’t feel like there is any future for them if they stay in their city/country. To them it is a the chance of a lifetime to find someone online who is willing to get them a visa and a plane ticket! My best friend here in Finland was married to an Albanian man. She got him a visa and paid for his trip to get here 7 years ago. They got married and have two beautiful kids. About a year ago they had a divorce (because he started seeing another women). He has also on several occasions taken my friends credit card without permission – basically stolen money from her. When she has found out, he always has said that he had to do it because he needs to send money back home. His sisters are always calling him and shouting that they need 500 euro, 1000 euro or whatever, now! And he sends it. he even made my friend co-sign a bank loan of 5000 euro one time! Now the situation is quite bad for him, because he is not at all good with money and has failed to pay his rent at the new apartment he moved to after the divorce. So he is homeless now. My friend helps him as much as she can – lets him sleep on the couch, but it is not easy for her. Even though she has done so much for him (and is still doing a lot for him), he does a lot of bad things behind her back all the time. Now he wants to try to bring some of his Albanian family over here to live. My friend will not help him with that one though – he has to try to figure out how to get them here himself. Anyway, just wanted to share that with you all. Take care." As mentioned by some on this forum that you need to spend lots of time in the country. "the only real way to meet girls here and get married is to move here for an extended period of time. If you just show up for a week, you will either 1) get targeted by hookers or gold diggers who go to places where foreigners gather (ex. Shooters club in Kiev), 2) be disappointed and not get any girls, or 3) meet a nice girl, but not get what you want because she doesn’t take you seriously as you will return to your country shortly (and in her mind, forget about her). It makes sense- why would a respectable girl hook up with a guy who she knows will not be around after a few days? And as for the girls who you meet at nice clubs/cafes and who speak English- they are just gold diggers. You have to learn Russian and live here for at least a month or two in order to find a good girl, meet with her enough times to get to know her, and then gain her trust and also trust her. It’s a difficult proposition for foreigners who show up after meeting girls online. You think there’s some gorgeous virgin waiting for you, but as most of those sites are scams, she probably isn’t even available or have any interest in you. I have looked up countless girls on vkontakte (Russian facebook) from the most popular marriage site in the US (anastasiaweb.com) and found them online with boyfriends or newly married or discovered that they work as strippers. You will be surprised to learn their real situation. Besides, I also confirmed that these girls get paid to write letters and meet with foreigners. I dated one that I found on anastasia but looked up on vkontakte. She told me all about poor saps who sent her jewelry and other gifts without ever meeting her in real life. She turned out to be a little whore anyway, but she was a great lay. Even after developing rapport with girls on vkontakte, I have been disappointed because I was ignored or rejected once I arrived in Ukraine. I lined up over a dozen dates before I got here, and I still haven’t had any of them follow-through now that I’m here. How anyone can be so naive to think that he has a chance using a marriage site is beyond me. The truth of the matter is that the women in Ukraine don’t have it as bad as people in the West think. There are many wealthy Ukrainians driving around in Porsches and Mercedes who snatch up the best girls with gifts and fancy dinners. The other girls are happy to date normal men or even boys their own age. You will be angered to see beautiful girls with dorky, young guys – just as we are angered in the West when we see a supermodel with a fat, old businessman. So with that said, either abandon the idea of getting a FSU bride, or take the steps necessary to acquire one. Learn the language. Take the trip out here and stay for 2 months at least. And then attack girls everywhere you go- don’t just rely on clubs or places like that. One Portuguese man who is here hunting girls uses creative approaches like stopping girls on the street with ridiculous questions or going into stores to hit on the shop girls. He is doing the only thing that works- which is playing the numbers game. He may only snag 1 out of 30 that way, but if he hits on 100 girls each week, he will have had a dozen girls after just one month. From those he can choose a girlfriend. I can say that I’m an expert in this field. I got hooked on these girls in 2004 when I went to St. Petersburg for a four-day visit. That turned into 3 engagements and a marriage after I spent 13 months in Russia. I learned the language, culture, and paid my dues. I can tell you in that time, I had about 30 girlfriends, two of them tying up most of my free time, so I couldn’t date around. It is an incredi dcguy Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/1/2016 6:58:07 PM   "It is an incredible experience. The women here are a wonderful reminder of what women all over the world once were: feminine, beautiful, romantic, charming, sensual, etc. I would gladly give up all I have in the US to spend the rest of my days playing this game. But this is changing fast. Women here are adapting Western ideas (like waiting until their late 20s to marry) and dating boys their own age. And after the Euro Cup 2012, you can kiss it all goodbye. Ukraine will be spoiled by all the foreign football fans who discover the best natural resource of this land. You’ll have to go to Siberia to find a good woman after that." Spend the rest of my life playing this game??? I would give up hardly anything to do that. This must be the reason why I am getting messages from profiles in Siberia. The boat has left the docks..... Your Reply: Your name:   New Registration Password:   Forgot password?   refresh Code:   Russian brides > Main Forum > UKRAINE WOMEN ON DATING SITES ARE MATERIALISTIC & DO NOT WANT TO WORK
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