I'm sorry but I cannot discuss in a forum where I start a new post, then others' posts show up 3-4 days before my reply, which sometimes doesn't even show up at all, and when it does it goes somewhere in the middle. It's just not the right board. But I do appreciate everyone's comments.
geo wrote..."She said she realized that building a relationship takes time. Her overall attitude seems more down to earth now. Writing a few lines every few days doesn't bother me."
That's sounds logical; however, it doesn't mean is going to work next time around. We all had some ex-' s that kept us on the loop for as long as we want to. This goes vice versa. Back in my early 20 I exploited this nonsense to have multiple hook ups, and getting caught in lies was not issue; but, I am not this kind of man anymore. Nowadays, I take relationships more seriously and focus on one problem at the time. This way the ball in on her court and if she drops it, I move on to someone new. No matter where's she from, I seek LOYALTY and SUPPORT.
Tom Shea: Oh she's insane no argument there, she admitted it before even we met persoon. During the first letters, she thought that we have some sort of metaphysical connection and she asked whether I felt the same or it was just her own madness, e.g., about 20 mins before she would receive my letter, she felt a rush and anxiety, then exactly 20 mins later, my email popped up LOL you can't make these things up. But crazy girl is not a show stopper for me. Actually it has benefits. But she's no marriage material by any means. I think there are many Ukraine girls that are twisted a notch or two.
Rick4girl: "As for me, the goal isnt to play with no serious marriage intention only that Im not going to be hung up on the idea of getting married. If it happens then obviously I would be happy about it. Until then life is fun. We only live once, make the most of it!"
Regardless how you dress it up, we're saying the same thing. You're enjoying the company of younger women without bothering whether it will lead to marriage. One thing that I appreciate in the Ukrainian culture is that Ukrainians are generally unpretentious and rather forthcoming and don't give a shit about political correctness. It seems that it hasn't rubbed off on you during your time there. It's no shame to date without intent to marry.
"One thing that I appreciate in the Ukrainian culture is that Ukrainians are generally unpretentious and rather forthcoming and don't give a shit about political correctness."
One reason for that is because this country is a "melting pot" of cultures and varied ethnic groups, so not observing political correctness could hurt you socially or economically and you end up ostracized. There is a more homogeneous society in most European countries (at least in the past). This country also has many different economic levels of the populace unlike most European countries which tend to have populations with more equitable income levels.
dcguy: "This country also has many different economic levels of the populace unlike most European countries which tend to have populations with more equitable income levels".
How'd you figure this? Have you been to any major European capital the last decade?
The political correctness has nothing to do with economics and demographics. It is an invention of the liberal politicians whose electorate consists mainly of gays, blacks, hispanic immigrants, and women ages 18-35. Even the Donald knows.
"One reason for that is because this country is a "melting pot" of cultures and varied ethnic groups, so not observing political correctness could hurt you socially or economically and you end up ostracized. There is a more homogeneous society in most European countries (at least in the past). "
@dcguy ... The U.S.A is that MELTING POT and in Europe ... I'm hat title goes to... Wait for it... The UK
And BTW... Before you write you Wikipedia opinion... Go overseas and see it for yourself.. Stop by Calais , France and watching how many are trying to get free benefits from The UK
@foe those people don't vote. Only old conservative people care to vote.
"Stop by Calais , France and watching how many are trying to get free benefits from The UK"
If you ever go to Calais, watch how many are trying to get free benefits from The UK. That's something to do. Perhaps you can also analyze the ethnic and gender diversity of those receiving benefits. You can make graphs and predict the outcome using the standard deviation.
"And BTW... Before you write you Wikipedia opinion... Go overseas and see it for yourself.. Stop by Calais , France and watching how many are trying to get free benefits from The UK"
There is mass migrations going on the European continent now from other regions. Much of it as a result of wars and bad economies. The same has been going on for thousands of years.
4re_geo wrote: "Regardless how you dress it up, we're saying the same thing. You're enjoying the company of younger women without bothering whether it will lead to marriage. One thing that I appreciate in the Ukrainian culture is that Ukrainians are generally unpretentious and rather forthcoming and don't give a shit about political correctness. It seems that it hasn't rubbed off on you during your time there. It's no shame to date without intent to marry. "
until you actually meet someone, everything is fantasy or virtual and not real. After the first meeting is no less fraught with peril than before.
Chemistry is essential to a Slavic girl and even if there is good chemistry, there is still no guarantee. I wish US immigration law mirrored the liberal slant
that dominates the "politically correct" class.
In the US just about any combination of couples is a protected class but yet one still has to marry for immigration while 50% of "families" in the USA are not married. further diluting the mix is just about any gender-fixation couple is possible. Only thing left to approve in Amerika is plural marriage and being able to marry your cat or dog.
Because of how screwed up Amerika is I dont understand why its still so hard to allow BF-GF relationships to get visas when butt buddies can now do it.
Oh damn, did I go off on a personal rant??? ooops.
still nothing wrong with dating a girl until the wheels fall off
"Because of how screwed up Amerika is I dont understand why its still so hard to allow BF-GF relationships to get visas when butt buddies can now do it. "
Are you saying that is hard to get a K1 visa? I had read that is easier to get a k1 visa than K3 visa.
"In the US just about any combination of couples is a protected class but yet one still has to marry for immigration while 50% of "families" in the USA are not married. further diluting the mix is just about any gender-fixation couple is possible. Only thing left to approve in Amerika is plural marriage and being able to marry your cat or dog."
We are not living in our grandparents times. The marriage institutions are corrupted and very loose and getting worse. 'Why buy the cow with the milk is free'.... What is gained from signing a piece of paper... Tax deductions, fringe benefits, bringing companionship from another country, legally. Nowadays birthing kids is for economic purpose, not for that bundle of joy they bring to a happy family. If the math don't add up they are discarded or thrown away. Is easy to be a deadbeat father in a third world country like Ukraine than here in the States.....Don't overkill yourselves with same sex marriage issue here in the USA. No matter how good you can be, you have very small chances to flip a lesbian, maybe a bi- but if you ever know about it, you know that is not the person you will marry.
I heard from a woman long ago that straight men are wanted in the Bay. I ask why out of ignorance, she said "most of than are gay".
kaiserdag: there are as many lesbians as gays in the Bay area. Oakland is the world's lesbian capital. There are many lesbians in Ukraine. Several times, I saw girls holding hands in Kiev. Yulia said there are many girls that date girls in Ukraine and even more in Russia. I guess they are adopting the western culture.
lol if girls hold hands that doesn't mean they are lesbians :)
i don't know any lesbians... only couple gays and couple bi-girls. But never seen a lesbian in my life.
"lol if girls hold hands that doesn't mean they are lesbians :) ......."
4re_geo ; what Moyarishka posted is so true.. And you go nuts on her past girl on girl action , don't ask or cover your ears if her tongue slipped off. Remember that there isn't much to choose from over there.
Not just the Bay Area but the entire California state.
Bi = Both , they are sometimes lesbian/guy and some other times straight.
One day as we start bragging about guy's stuff ( like TomZ overdue sin this forum). Well, there was this guy who told us that he had sex with 87 people. Go and figure that out!!!!