Let me explain. About why its so hard on this kind of sites to find a serious woman to communicate with which will also result in private correspondence and a meeting later, and also lead to a wife later !!!! This is based on my experiences.
The ladies on these sites will write to ANY man. They reply to any man.
The agency pays them money 0.2$ per letter, that's why! There may be serious women, but how to find out by letter in this kind of system ???
If lady chat on cam with man the site charges man one dollar per minute..
Some men chat a lot. Some ladies also say " i have to chat with you, see your eyes all the time,
and your reactions when we are chatting, by letter not possible to see all this, so come on chat"
The lady gets paid 0.4$ per chat minute, so she pretends she likes every man and asks to chat.
This is about site !
Now about real meetings! In meetings lady does not really like or interested in the man. She invites him, meets him, usually with a friend or interpreter. The man has to pay the interpreter, even if the lady brings her friend as interpreter ! Usually the lady does not allow if the man says "I will being the interpreter !".
The lady does not care if the nan who comes lives or dies on long journey in strange airports, hotels bad food, taxi or planes ! She
meets him at restaurants, coffee tables, in ukraine, usually for 20 minutes each day the man is in her city. Says she has to work in day. Then she makes the man buy small gifts, a dress or two, shoes ,
Then some money for her sick mum or sister. Then asks for laptop or phone (she usually sauys old phone is broken,
Has to talk or chat with you, she asks the man a phone, later, some women ask in first meeting and show a broken phone !).
She does routine, with every man whether he is young or old , handsome, or ugly, she not really care. It's a game. Because she writes tender letters to all men on site who write to her, or even if they do not write, she starts the letters !
The method of earning by the UKRAINE lady, mostly nikolaev women !. Therefore even the intelligent Man cannot know if lady serious or not in this kind of system! It's enough to confuse any man because In america, asia, other countries, and in russia too, its possible and easy to know the lady's mind. There , in those countries, good family women, do not pretend to
like a man for gifts. They get gifts only at time of engagement from the man or from his family. Also the good women in those countries is concerned and worried
about the man and his trouble on account of her to travel such long distances. She know that the man has to stay in many airports for connecting flights, eat all kinds of strange food, stay in strange places, hotels, taxis, without knowing the language, risks of criminals, those who steal passports, bags, documents too , in a second, he knows not know the direction of the streets in her city or the language in which to ask directions or talk to ordinary taxi driver !. So the serious good woman thinks about and worries about the man. But in UKRAINE its not easy to meet such normally especially in nikolaev.
In other countries, woman asks - this gift too expensive, i cannot
take it now, maybe later! In nikolaev woman says "mike, in UKRAINE, it is custom. Man must impress the lady with gifts, and taking her to visit all places, restaurants, for few days, and then she consider his proposal seriously. In UKRAINE the lady take gifts from many men who offer, and she decides which man gave better gifts and consider his proposal. This was spoken to me by INGA, a lady from nikolaev, with whom I had many letters and met her, and she behaved in this way !
Now do you understand
why ukraine difficult country for serious men ?
When I wrote this to a lady on this site she replies !
"Your letter brought me in a state of shock. Best regards, Olga"
Ha ha ! So she ran away even after the first letter. It means she cannot walk through the difficulties !
And that's the way the penny drops ( to use an old British saying)!
"In UKRAINE the lady take gifts from many men who offer, and she decides which man gave better gifts and consider his proposal."
This is just a ruse. She has no serious intentions of having serious relations or marriage with anyone. She is just a blood sucking vampire. She will bleed the guy dry financially and go on to her next victim.
These are what we call professional daters and they are becoming more and more frequent in Ukraine. They are quite easy to detect though (before you go see her) after you've been at this for a while.
There’s no guarantee having so many choices is actually a good or productive thing. “Psychologists refer to this as the ‘Paradox of Choice,’” Selterman explains. “More options are not always better.”
“Their research showed that when presented with larger online dating pool samples, participants spent more time searching through the profiles and had more difficulty screening out inferior options,”
"Ha ha ! So she ran away even after the first letter. It means she cannot walk through the difficulties!"
For some of the profiles, if you begin the conversation on a negative footing, they immediately "write you off". This could be because they are a scammer and see little chance of profiting by continuing the correspondence or someone who does not want to pursue someone who has a negative attitude and experiences.
A relationship that begins one sided is very prone to failure. Many people around the world think of dating as a "meat market" where you try to impress and win over potential mates. And when there is economic disparity, that makes it much harder to get an honest image of the other person.
"For some of the profiles, if you begin the conversation on a negative footing, they immediately "write you off". This could be because they are a scammer and see little chance of profiting by continuing the correspondence or someone who does not want to pursue someone who has a negative attitude and experiences. "
or cos they think guy may be a jerk and they don't have time to loose it on a jerk. There are plenty men out there and if a woman sees the red flag, she stops corresponding and goes to the next one.
Rb: “Who is best to answer men dating experiences than a woman?”
Conventional wisdom might suggest that women could answer dating questions,,, but not any from Ukraine, and sure the hell not Moya!!!
Women from Ukraine will tell the men exactly what they want to hear. They will say whatever it takes, to get men to Ukraine. Hotels, taxis, restaurants, bars, interps and apartments owners all get a piece of every foreigner. They won’t say anything that prevents this from happening.
Back about a year ago, someone asked the forum about a girl named something like,,,, Cowalenco? I thought to myself,,,,, hmmmm,, that sounds familiar, and posted: If that’s who I think it is,, she is one of the biggest scammers in Nikolaev, and her real name is Kovalenko. Moya posted that it was one of the most common names in Ukraine, and that she knows several girls with that name,,,, and all were honest! Well,,, guess what? It was the same girl,,,, and I provided the proof.
Another time, I wrote that trouble was coming to the cities along the Black Sea, like Odesa, because Putin wants that corridor to the west side. Moya wrote that all was peaceful in Odesa,,,, nothing to worry about when coming to Odesa. A few days later, some government building was bombed by Russian antagonists,,, and some people were killed.
And yet another time,,, TomZ posted about a good deal on 4g phone service,,,, Moya claimed that Ukraine didn’t have any widespread 4g service,,,, and basically called Tom a liar. Rick agreed with Moya on this one. Then,,, weeks later, Rick acknowledged the fact, that Tom saved him some money.
Moya consistently comes down on the wrong side of almost every argument,,, especially when I am involved. Is she jaded, bitter, or just biased against the west??
I give her very low marks on honesty, comprehension, and judgment!
Yes, her first name this time was Inga,,, and I still have a photo file on her. I think a thread was started about her too,,, I looked through 15 pages of threads and could not find it.
Ah,,, your quote about Inga was from the new guy above, Inga from Nikolaev? Could be,,, she is a 24/7 pro scammer. He will need to decide for himself if she is the one.
"Back about a year ago, someone asked the forum about a girl named something like,,,, Cowalenco? I thought to myself,,,,, hmmmm,, that sounds familiar, and posted: If that’s who I think it is,, she is one of the biggest scammers in Nikolaev, and her real name is Kovalenko. Moya posted that it was one of the most common names in Ukraine, and that she knows several girls with that name,,,, and all were honest! Well,,, guess what? It was the same girl,,,, and I provided the proof. "
What does this prove? If you look through my friends on VK you can probably find at least one Kovalenko. What i said was Cowalenko and Kovalenko is the same last name. Maybe it doesn't look the same to you but it's the same in Ukrainian and in Russian.
And yes all Kovalenkos i knew were honest. Kovalenko is like Smith in USA (or what name is the most common there). Can you tell all Smith's are good or bad?
Believe me, lonely, you are the last person i'd like to visit my country. What i say here - i say truth. If you don't wanna read it - then don't :)