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	Create New Topic   My Posts   My forum buddies   Invite friends   Private messages Russian brides > Main Forum > The Kaiser Report Author Post kaiserdag Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/31/2016 8:02:11 AM   DC, What you had posted is part of the Adjustment Of Status process. Before all that, the K-1 visa holder, can get Social Security Number as soon as she/he arrives regardless of the civil status, married or not. I had looked this up on My Visa Journey website. I am posting my latest experience because It will save you from unnecessary misery and arguments. Step-by-Step Guide to getting a Social Security Number (SSN) http://www.visajourney.com/content/ssn BTW don't mind my grammatical errors...... dcguy Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/31/2016 12:46:50 PM   kaiserdag That does not seem logical to issue SSNs to every one who enters this country with a temporary visa. The alien may never return to this country or get approved for permanent residency, so why give them a SSN? My work involves using the SSN, so I will depend on what government regulations specify as to its application and not necessarily rely on a non-government website for confirmation. Also, foreign nationals can apply for an ITIN in lieu of the SSN where the SSN would not be issued to them. ragingbull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/31/2016 1:30:46 PM   When a former sister in-law came to the US a few decades ago, it was on a visitor's visa (temporary). She went to apply for a SSN. They asked her why on a visitor's visa. She said to start a bank account. They gave it to her. I don't know how much money she put on a bank account, or if she did. Perhaps, they are stricter now, but I doubt if they will deny a SSN with someone with money. lonelyranger1701 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/1/2017 1:10:55 AM   A SSN wasn’t an issue for my wife until she took an outside job, then needed it for tax purposes. Glad to hear that everything is going ok. Best Wishes for everyone in 2017 dcguy Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/1/2017 3:14:57 AM   This is from the SSA website: If you do not have permission to work: Lawfully admitted noncitizens can get many benefits and services without a Social Security number. You do not need a number to conduct business with a bank, register for school, apply for educational tests, obtain private health insurance, apply for school lunch programs or apply for subsidized housing. You cannot get a Social Security number for the sole purpose of obtaining a driver's license. Government benefits or services: If you do not have permission to work, you may apply for a Social Security number only if: •A federal law requires you to provide your Social Security number to get a particular benefit or service; or •A state or local law requires you to provide your Social Security number to get general assistance benefits for which you already have qualified. If you need a number to meet these state or local requirements, you must bring us a letter from the government agency. It must be on letterhead stationery (no form letters or photocopies) and: •Specifically identify you as the applicant; •Cite the law requiring you to have a Social Security number; •Indicate that you meet all the agency's requirements, except having the number; and •Contain an agency contact name and telephone number. Taxes: If you need a number for tax purposes and you are not authorized to work in the United States, you can apply for an Individual Taxpayer Identification Number from the Internal Revenue Service (IRS). Visit IRS in person or call the IRS toll-free number, 1-800-TAXFORM (1-800-829-3676), and request Form W-7 (Application for IRS Individual Taxpayer Identification Number). If you are assigned a number for non-work purposes, you cannot use it to work. If you use it to work, we will inform DHS. In general, only noncitizens who have permission to work from DHS can apply for a Social Security number. -------------------------------- This sounds to me that issuance of the SSN is not automatic just because you entered this country. kaiserdag Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/2/2017 10:44:24 AM   After the interview with the SS agent , she asked if she ( my wife ) had been issued a SS# before! Picture my face in shock and awe!!!!! Just when you think it doesn't make sense,,,,, check and double check it again. And since the world made it through..... best wishes to all of you in this 2017. kaiserdag Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/2/2017 10:47:49 AM   At the interview, the SS agent asked my wife if had been issued a SS# before! Picture my face in shock and awe!!!!! Just when you think it doesn't make sense,,,,, check and double check it again. And since the world made it through..... best wishes to all of you in this 2017. dcguy Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/2/2017 5:55:52 PM   You said, "my wife". Does this mean that you are legally married? If so, then an adjustment to the alien's status has occurred when makes that person eligible for the SSN. Someone who still has the 90 day K-visa (and not legally married) is on a temporary stay in this country. That person should not be given the SSN unless that person has been given the permission to work in this country. Most aliens (not permanent residents or under work visas) are supposedly not allowed to work here unless the visa has the added permission included (by filing the additional petition). Otherwise, the alien can be like those undocumented aliens who work "under the table". lonelyranger1701 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/2/2017 7:21:33 PM   My wife at the time Dc. This was some time in 2000, well past the 90 day K visa from the following year. From what I remember, she had permission to work from the start,, but for sure after the 90 days. She did work under the table some what,,, and then wasn’t here for filing taxes. Put me in a little bit of a bind too,,, my accountant wanted to wait for her return,,, and file late. I told him to file mine without her,,, as I had made a trip to Milwaukee’s INS to find out how to keep her out. He didn’t listen to me,, ended up filing late,, then I received forms to file quarterly for the next two years. K-dag,,, from what I’ve heard over the years,, all government agencies question the legitimacy of foreign marriages,,, hoping to get someone to slip up. From my own experience,,,, they didn’t question a thing? After my wife returned home,,, zero attention from the old INS. I have yet to receive anything, like asking for a confirmation that she no longer lives here. dcguy Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/2/2017 8:25:22 PM   INS is now USCIS and no longer part of the Dept. of Justice. Prior to 2001, immigration was much more lax. Now the fees have shot up to file any petitions. Lonelyranger - my wife question was directed to kaiserdag's statement about his wife at the SSA office. The status (and work eligibility) is different between a non-immigrant and immigrant visa holder. dcguy Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/2/2017 8:35:06 PM   "I have yet to receive anything, like asking for a confirmation that she no longer lives here." If you were to move to Antarctica, nobody would care that you left this country. As long as nobody reports income tied to your SSN, your location or your present condition, will not be on any concern to any government office. dcguy Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/2/2017 8:42:25 PM   From my experience, never had any questions about my foreign marriage overseas. I did have to carry documentation overseas (that had to be translated to the native language). When I came back here, I asked the local country social service office, if I had to apply for a marriage license and the lady said, "nope, your foreign marriage license is all you need". I had to go through the regular stuff after my wife came into the country with a conditional immigrant visa. You have to later file to get the "green card" by proving that the marriage is not a sham. Then a few years later, the alien can then apply for naturalization. lonelyranger1701 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/2/2017 8:42:52 PM   Yeah, that's why I had called it "the old INS" back in 1999- 2000. I've been thinking K-dag was married?? dcguy Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/2/2017 8:46:00 PM   I guess I was a little confused about his earlier comments about the K-1 visa and the last comment that his "wife" was at the SSA office. Someone who is a wife is NOT a K-1 visa holder (whether you married in this country or in another country). lonelyranger1701 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/2/2017 10:23:43 PM   There is a short time period right after you get married in which you spend in a state of limbo. You get married, you fill out the forms and mail them to the proper office. There were many ways to determine the proper office,,,, 4 of us here read it and we sent it to Lincoln Neb.! Weeks later while on a trip to Canada, I get a frantic call from home on a Motorola analog bag phone, that the papers were sent back, with only a few of the 90 days remaining. Not being able to get a hold of our atty, we called our US Congressmen and he was able to take care of it for us. Just needed to re-mail it to Milwaukee. dcguy Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/2/2017 11:54:57 PM   As long as you have the marriage documentation, I do not think the immigration office is going to be too picky if you have not filed the adjustment of status petition within the 90 days after the end of the K-1 visa. Though they may have the authority to deport the alien, I do not think they would be that stringent. dcguy Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/3/2017 2:28:09 AM   "You have to later file to get the "green card" by proving that the marriage is not a sham." From my earlier statement, here is an additional clarification. My wife was issued a "green card" upon entry to this country (but with a conditional status). You had to file a petition later to remove the conditional status by proving the marriage was not a sham and to allow the alien to continue to live here. Since my wife got the green card upon entry to the country, she could apply for the SSN right away. I assume that if you could not prove the marriage was legitimate, then deportation is a possibility. dcguy Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/7/2017 1:27:57 PM   From checking the information on the immigration government information, my foreign spouse was issued a K-3 visa (because my marriage was overseas). https://travel.state.gov/content/visas/en/immigrate/family/s pouse-citizen.html She was given an entry visa overseas, came here, and then a few weeks later got the "green card" in the mail. With that, she applied for the SSN. Then you had to file to remove the conditional status (after a few years). You have to provide documentation that you have jointly held accounts, property, etc. Then several years later, the alien can file for naturalization on his/her own (at that point, the US citizen spouse is no longer responsible if the spouse becomes a public charge). kaiserdag Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/22/2017 12:58:48 AM   Folks, I hope all you are doing fine , since there is a lot things going on lately on the news. On top of that, I had several storms making headlines here in central California. The good news about that, is should bring end to the drought ))). Any way, to clarify, We got married within a week of her arrival. After the honeymoon and the holidays, I send the paperwork (adjustment of status) to the USCIS / DHS. We are doing this all on our own, so is was a learning experience with a bit of pain in the butt. Within two weeks as promised by the Social Security agent my wife received her SSN with a date and this "VALID FOR WORK ONLY WITH DHS AUTHORIZATION" stamped on it. This not only allows her to work legally but also, open joint bank's accounts, get her drivers license, store cards and many other things. And since we got married last year, we can file our taxes as " Married Filing Jointly " to maximize my deductions and to show good faith on our marriage. As LR mentioned, the fact that her "status" went from fiancée to wife won't make her subject for deportation because we got married within the 90 days; however, in the mean time, she is considered undocumented. Not to be confused with illegal immigrant. (after living in California for a while, I see the difference)))) Bottom line, my marriage is still solid and normal. I am also going through a career change, so bare with me if you leave comments for me to respond. Kaiser out kaiserdag Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/26/2017 1:16:13 PM   Folks, Who says that marriage is easy? Cause finding a suitable mate wasn't easy, at lease in my case! But anyway, me and my wife, are doing great, but it has its ups and downs like normal couples. She went to her finger print and photo/ Bio appointment. In the meantime, she's studying online while waiting for her green card and other documents. My biggest challenge, which I am ashamed of, it's on teaching her how to properly drive here in the outstanding California roads. I am sure that with time and patience this task will be accomplished soon. I want to mention about current turmoils in Europe but especially in Eastern Europe. Besides the political BS between the "establishment" and Trump copycats that Putin favors, there are lots of protests from Romania to the Baltic States. So if you are traveling or getting to know someone from the side, just aware. 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